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	:::I got to the sandbox through a link on the Recent Changes page. Now that I've actually seen it, I think it's pretty clever. One thing worth adding is a template for quotes narratives, in order to get text to be ''[italicized and enclosed inside square brackets]''. It could be called something like <nowiki>{{Qu-n}}</nowiki>, maybe? -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] 15:10, 22 May 2012 (EDT)		:::I got to the sandbox through a link on the Recent Changes page. Now that I've actually seen it, I think it's pretty clever. One thing worth adding is a template for quotes narratives, in order to get text to be ''[italicized and enclosed inside square brackets]''. It could be called something like <nowiki>{{Qu-n}}</nowiki>, maybe? -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] 15:10, 22 May 2012 (EDT)
	::::Actually I think that feature is already availabe. Template:Qu-a is for actions (put inside square brackets and italicized). If you want the action on a whole line, just type <nowiki>{{Qu-a|line|Some person was doing this.}}</nowiki>. {{User:Randomno/sig4}} 15:32, 22 May 2012 (EDT)		::::Actually I think that feature is already availabe. Template:Qu-a is for actions (put inside square brackets and italicized). If you want the action on a whole line, just type <nowiki>{{Qu-a|line|Some person was doing this.}}</nowiki>. {{User:Randomno/sig4}} 15:32, 22 May 2012 (EDT)
−	:::::{{Qu-a|slapping forehead}} D'oh! You're right, indeed it is. Cool! -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] 15:39, 22 May 2012 (EDT)	+	:::::slapping forehead D'oh! You're right, indeed it is. Cool! -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] 15:39, 22 May 2012 (EDT)
−	::::::{{Qu-a|line|Randomno tuts}} {{User:Randomno/sig4}} 15:50, 22 May 2012 (EDT)	+	::::::line|Randomno tuts {{User:Randomno/sig4}} 15:50, 22 May 2012 (EDT)
	:::::::Well, this is freaking cool! Are these templates officially available for use on the wiki, then? -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] 16:46, 22 May 2012 (EDT)		:::::::Well, this is freaking cool! Are these templates officially available for use on the wiki, then? -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] 16:46, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

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Contents 1 Fresh Start 2 IRC 3 Representative 4 Aye 5 ☆The Crystal Homer Award☆ 6 Superin-duper 7 Appearance galleries 8 Merchandise Award 9 Videos 10 Nicknames on Nicknames 11 Adminship 12 Twitter 13 Quotes 14 Blond and blonde 15 Well 16 Meeting 17 Troy McClure template 18 Images - Comics category 19 Uter Zorker? 20 ☆The Bronze Homer Award☆ 21 Affiliates 22 Which episode is this? 23 Editor meeting 24 ☆The Bronze Homer Award☆ 25 The Incredibly Simulating Life of Sideshow Mel credits 26 Wikisimpsons:Featured article 27 Tapped Out 28 The Last of Maggie's Crib? 29 The Platinum Award 30 Peanuts article 31 Email 32 ☆The Crystal Homer Award☆ 33 What is that thing? 34 Golden Homer 35 Countdown timer 36 Golden Homer 37 ☆The Silver Homer Award☆ 38 Wikisimpsons needs featured nominations and votes! 39 Colonel Homer 40 Do you really want to say that Teddy Kennedy is alive? Really?

Hi, I'm Mythigator. Please leave a message below. If I left you a message on your talk page, please reply there as I like to keep a conversation in one place.

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Fresh Start[edit]

Seeing what this looks like following the archive. -- Mythigator 02:17, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

Okay, there's obviously something I'm missing because the box with the archive link isn't showing up. Suggestions, please, Solar or Ale (or anyone else who knows, thank you)? -- Mythigator 02:20, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

IRC[edit]

Do you wanna come to this week's IRC meeting? Phinbart - just one of the huge Bart fans! 15:29, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

I would if I could. Saturday evenings (wiki time) just aren't working out for me anymore. -- Mythigator 19:47, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

It seems a new time may be in order, as we had to cancel as there were too few users. Will wants one later so he could attend, not sure how that would work for others.--Cook879 05:21, 9 October 2011 (EDT)

That time used to work for me, but our family dynamics have had a couple of spanners thrown into the works (and that's putting it mildly): My girlfriend's mom passed away in June (long illness), and at about the same time my girlfriend's grandma (who is also our neighbor, and mother to the aforementioned deceased mom) quit driving. The latter was actually a good thing, as Grandma is in her mid-80s, her eyesight has been starting to go, and driving for her was getting to be more scary than anything else. Anyway, since then our Saturday afternoons (evenings in wiki time) are generally spent taking Grandma grocery shopping and/or visiting my girlfriend's dad. He's doing OK, but he's been buried in a veritable sea of paperwork that he sometimes needs some help navigating—neither he nor my girlfriend are really "paper" people, but guess who in the family is? Not that I'm complaining; I'm glad to help. I'm also not trying to create drama or run a sympathy ploy; it's just that I want to assure folks that I'm not deliberately ditching the meetings and, particularly in the light of my new status, I think that everyone is entitled to an explanation. So here it is, and thanks for listening. Please do keep me posted regarding any meeting schedule changes, though. -- Mythigator 10:28, 9 October 2011 (EDT)

Hey, no one is thinking that you are trying to avoid meetings or anything. You don't have to come to them if you're unable to. We understand that real life often takes priority over Internet life so there wasn't really any need for an explanation of everything. if you can make it, that's great. If you can't, never mind. We might end up rescheduling though so watch this space. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 10:41, 9 October 2011 (EDT)

No worries. I just want to make sure that those who need to be in the picture are in the picture. I'll keep watching for schedule changes, too. -- Mythigator 10:44, 9 October 2011 (EDT)

Representative[edit]

Congrats, I've decided to make you the representative. The Solar Dragon 12:32, 13 December 2011 (EST)

Thanks and I'll do my best and all that. One thing I've been doing already is posting links to our wiki when answering Simpsons-related questions on Yahoo Answers. I did recently run across a site that I think would be a good affiliate (simpsonseh.com, a collection of Canadian references on the show), but I'd like to hold off on contacting them until two things happen:

1. The server situation is sorted out (which will determine whether I can have a simpsonswiki.net e-mail address, which I think would be helpful).
2. I get a couple of articles written (based on information I've been able to glean from their site).

Anyway, please let me know if the above makes sense, and if there's anything else I need to be aware of. Feel free to e-mail privately if you think it's necessary. TTYL ... -- Mythigator 14:07, 13 December 2011 (EST)

Sounds good. The Solar Dragon 14:08, 13 December 2011 (EST)

Congratulations! --Cook879 16:47, 15 December 2011 (EST)

Aye[edit]

How art thou? I must say I am very eager to hear your accent. (I am assuming you have one due to your "PROUD" demeanour towards Scotland.) Anyway, if I am to understand, you're warning me that I will lose my rights because I have a profile here? Well I have made maybe 2-3 edits on actual content pages. I just use it to speak with you all. I mean it is rather frustrating being ever so behind your wiki, but I am doing my best to catch up. P.S Solar Dragon doesn't like me much and begun to ignore me after this question. If Wikia provided the Monobook skin originally as an option when they introduced Oasis, would you have left. (assuming no freak bans etc. Had been made.) Woops, forgot my signature. Jhonevans 09:55, 21 December 2011 (EST)

What happens to your rights at SW@THTSNBN is for those admins to determine. As I said, I thought you should be aware of the issue. By the standards that SW@THTSNBN has put forth, the conflict of interest doesn't arise from having a profile in both wikis, or (apparently) from editing in both places, but from having rollback or higher privileges in both wikis.

I'll post more later. Gotta get ready for work now. -- Mythigator 10:12, 21 December 2011 (EST)

Ok, can you post on my talk page please? Otherwise I will have to keep refreshing your page. Trust me I have no plans of rollback here, I doubt I would be granted such access after my recent activity on the other wiki. But I do enjoy speaking with you guys. It's a real shame it's like this. Jhonevans 10:30, 21 December 2011 (EST)

☆The Crystal Homer Award☆[edit]

The Crystal Homer Award Congratulations! For your outstanding service to articles over the whole year, you have been awarded the Crystal Homer Award for 2011!

Feel free to put {{User Crystal Homer|Year}} on your user page.

Superin-duper[edit]

I don't care what the hell the expression is, but if you listen he definitely said superin-duper. Listen to it, if you want. I have quite a few times. I'm not going against the only revert once rule, so I think you should re-watch the episode. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 15:02, 19 February 2012 (EST)

I DVRed the episode so I certainly will, thanks. I just find it shocking that the writers would muck up such a common expression. -- Mythigator 19:39, 19 February 2012 (EST)

I just re-watched that portion of the episode. It's "super-duperintendent". Shearer does hesitate for a fraction of a second after "super", so the pronunciation isn't as clear as one might think. -- Mythigator 21:56, 19 February 2012 (EST)

Sorry for being so late to reply, I've had an urge not to. Anyway, if he didn't say "in", he said something. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 15:29, 2 March 2012 (EST)

Randomno, could you please refrain from using massive bold words like that as it comes across as rude and and as if you are shouting. Thanks, The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 16:22, 2 March 2012 (EST)

Appearance galleries[edit]

Hi, when making appearance pages, could you make them in gallery format instead of list format please as this is the way we would prefer it. To make it easier, we have a list of recurring characters, locations etc. here. Thanks, ☆The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)}☆ 15:51, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

When I make a list, it's a transitional step to making a gallery, so no worries. I was on lunch and only had so much time to work with. BTW, one of the improvements that Marge's Station wagon article needs is an image. -- Mythigator 16:04, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

Isn't that the same car as Orange Station Wagon?--Cook879 16:05, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

Indeed it is; well spotted! In that case, then the Marge's Station wagon article can either be deleted or its content can be replaced with a redirect to Orange Station Wagon. I suggest going the redirect route, as "Marge's Station wagon" was the first thing I thought of when I was trying to think of what her car would be called. -- Mythigator 17:45, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

Merchandise Award[edit]

Since you're the only admin around, can you put on the sitenotice "The Merchandise Award has been revived for a Weekend Special starting today!" Thanks, ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 04:27, 6 April 2012 (EDT)

It's done. See Solar's talk page for a mini-rant. -- Mythigator 09:01, 6 April 2012 (EDT)

Videos[edit]

Hi, as you're American, do you mind trying to access the video here? Thanks, | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 09:50, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

I'll try it when I get home. I'm at work at the moment, and our Internet filter is pretty persnickety about allowing access to video content. But anyway, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work at home. Is there anything in particular you need from the video? A framegrab or something? -- Mythigator 10:58, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

Not right as this moment, but we might need some good images in the future. When I try accessing them, a voice just says "This content is currently unavailable." That's happened for all the videos I've tried. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 13:32, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

Well, I had to sit through a couple minutes' worth of ads, but after that "Them, Robot" started playing with no problems at all. -- Mythigator 08:15, 11 April 2012 (EDT)

Okay, thanks. Do you mind trying to get the image here, but without the logo? Thanks, | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 08:18, 11 April 2012 (EDT)

I'll see if I can manage it. Two other possibilities are either cropping the picture to eliminate the logo or "photoshopping" the logo out of the image. Obtaining a clean image is preferable to both, of course, so I'll see if I can get one from watching the episode. -- Mythigator 08:23, 11 April 2012 (EDT)

Yes, I know those ways, but they either change the image, or look slightly bad where the logo was. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 08:25, 11 April 2012 (EDT)

Got it, Random. The pic looks a lot better without the logo, for sure, but that Fox video player app isn't exactly the easiest one to get screencaps from. -- Mythigator 01:40, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

Cheers. By the way, can you call me "Randomno" please, "Random" sort of defeats the point of my name. :) | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 05:55, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

Geoff the mythbuster seems to give everyone a nickname. Oh, yeah, Randomno, there is a reason he called you Random... Go figure! --Fred (Talk • Contribs. • Editcount) 05:44, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

I'm sensible? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 05:51, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

C'mon, Fred. It's not cool to presume to know other people's reasons for doing things, unless they tell you. :-) But if you must know, I was just coining a nickname on a nickname by shortening Randomno's handle to "Random", similar to how sometimes people refer to me as Myth. No disrespect at all was intended. But since Randomno has asked me not to do that, I won't. No problem. -- Mythigator 09:32, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

Solar, Cook and I are having an argument on IRC about what whether Rowan Priddis says "Gary Ocean and the Motion" or "Galley Ocean at the Motion". If the videos have subtitles, please tell us which one it is. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 10:09, 6 May 2012 (EDT)

Actually, the videos don't have subtitles. But since I still have the episode on my DVR, I can take a look (and listen) at it. After that, I'll get back to your on your talk page with my two cents' worth. It won't be until at least this afternoon my time, because my grandfather is visiting and we are getting ready to go into Seattle to the Space Needle this morning. Talk to you later! -- Mythigator 11:48, 6 May 2012 (EDT)

(resetting indents) I FINALLY got around to re-watching the episode. At first I was pretty sure it was "Galley Ocean and the Motion", but now I'm leaning toward "Gary Ocean and the Motion". I am sure of the end part being "AND the Motion", since that makes more sense than "in the motion" for a band name. Rowan's accent kind of blurs "R" and "L", but I think if the word had been "Galley" he would have pronounced the "A" differently. -- Mythigator 22:47, 12 May 2012 (EDT)

:/ | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 02:59, 13 May 2012 (EDT)

Mythigator, you're American. No offense but it would be harder for you to understand English accents than say, me and Cook. We both agree that it is "Gary" but it's his accent that makes it sound a bit different. Now, I have friends who have a similar accent so I know perfectly well what he's saying. :P The Solar Dragon 04:59, 13 May 2012 (EDT)

No offense taken at all, Solar. My Scots/English roots notwithstanding, your ears are far more practiced than mine at hearing English accents. The situation would be reversed, though, if we were talking about regional American accents (and, to some extent, Canadian). Anyway, Randomno asked for my perspective, so I figured I'd honor his request and offer it. -- Mythigator 09:25, 13 May 2012 (EDT)

Nicknames on Nicknames[edit]

BTW, here's a bit of explanation to which Randomno is entitled: The tendency I have towards occasionally shortening other people's handles probably comes from being a hockey fan. Players tend to give each other shortened nicknames (for example, on our major junior team here we had a player named Yadlowski who was nicknamed "Yads" by his teammates), and by extensions, the fans pick up the custom as well. A lot of teams in the NHL (and presumably other bockey leagues as well) have similarly shortened nickanmes such as the Pittsburgh Penguins being called "Pens" and the Vancouver Canucks being called "Nucks". And in case anyone's wondering, no, it's not a "lazy American" thing; the majority of the players (from whom the custom ultimately derives) are from Canada. And it's not a "lazy Canadian" thing, either; it's just part of hockey culture.

Anyway, if anyone prefers not to be referred to by a shortened version of their handle, all they need to do is ask nicely (as Randomno did), and I'll lay off. Like I said already, no problem. -- Mythigator 09:32, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

Adminship[edit]

http://simpsonswiki.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=Mythigator&page=&year=&month=-1 and http://simpsonswiki.net/w/index.php?limit=50&tagFilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Mythigator&namespace=8&year=&month=-1. Why were you given admin rights? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 13:51, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

I also think admins should have some knowledge of cleaning up. And even when you do, it's really not that good. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 14:04, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

Ask Solar if you want to nitpick. I'm not having this conversation. -- Mythigator 15:06, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

Okay, thanks. Did you have an admin nomination (a successful one)? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 15:15, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

No. He is an experienced, mature user who had shown great understanding of the policies. We only had two active admins which is why I made Mythigator an admin. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 15:18, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

I understand the policies and Myth isn't that active... | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 15:26, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

Your idea of "active" is misguided. He edits daily and, hence, is active. It may appear otherwise, but that's because he focuses on large edits, whereas me and Solar do a lot of clean-up and smaller things.--Cook879 15:28, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

@Cook: Thank you, Sir! -- Mythigator 15:31, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

I suppose he's a bit more active than I thought, but, yes, I do expect a reply of stuff he does, what admin-y stuff has he done? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 15:43, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

"Admin-y stuff" is probably not what you think it is. He checks for vandalism and spam and deals with that appropriately. If it happens in his timezone and me and Solar aren't on he will catch it. What other "admin-y stuff" is there?--Cook879 17:29, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

Sorry Randomno, but please, if the community "votes you down", don't get mad, maybe you'll become an admin in the future. FatHomer^Talk 17:43, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

Also, Mythigator is one of the best editors this wiki have. FatHomer^Talk 17:44, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

Randomno, Mythigator is an admin nearly purely because he is more mature than a majority of the users, due to being older. He's a great user and he has been known to follow policies etc. Randomno, you still have to mature. As I have seen from this talk page post, the one you posted on Frederick's talk page and others in the past, you are still fairly immature which is why I don't want to give you admin rights. Now, can we give this a rest please? The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 17:48, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

Cook, above: "What other "admin-y stuff" is there?". Why would I know the admin stuff if Cook doesn't seem too? And how is this immature. And the thing on Frederick's talk page was mainly a joke. And what counts as being immature? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 00:52, 3 May 2012 (EDT)

It's immature to cut other people down in order to make yourself look good. Also, there's nothing wrong with having a sense of humor, but one of the marks of maturity is knowing when and on what sort of topic it's appropriate to make jokes. -- Mythigator 04:07, 3 May 2012 (EDT)

(Resetting indent). Randomno, what I mean is think before you hit save page. What you put on Frederick's talk page could be taken the wrong way for instance. It could come across as rude or even insulting. Read through things before you say them or hit save page. The amount of times I've written a talk page message and discarded it because I thought it might come across as rude or the person reading it might take it the wrong way is fairly high. Use common sense. If you think that you might be insulted if you read that, don't hit save. ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 04:24, 3 May 2012 (EDT)

Replying to Randomno's last message, I want to know what you think an adminsitrator does. If you go for something like "cleaning up" then that's wrong. The only difference is the ability to delete and block, both of which are only really required for a large number of spam and vandalism, which is rare here.--Cook879 07:12, 3 May 2012 (EDT)

But I asked roughly the same question, and Solar said that made me seem immature. And why does being mature give you admin rights? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 10:42, 3 May 2012 (EDT)

Glance up a few posts for answers to your questions about maturity vs. immaturity. Also, regarding admin rights, it seems to me that Solar's assessment is that you are too immature to be trusted to use them responsibly. And the more you gripe and continue posting the same questions which people have already answered for you, the more you make the case for that assessment being spot-on. Your smartest move at this point would be to cut your losses and end this discussion. -- Mythigator 10:56, 3 May 2012 (EDT)

It does seem strange you've never really found much to delete, or edit many MediaWiki pages. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 10:59, 3 May 2012 (EDT)

It seems stranger that you 1) can't take a hint and 2) insist on having a discussion I've already told you I'm not having. -- Mythigator 11:11, 3 May 2012 (EDT)

I didn't ask you a question... | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 11:13, 3 May 2012 (EDT)

Twitter[edit]

Hi, would you mind seeing what time it says this tweet was sent? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 12:45, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

Sorry, no can do. When I clicked on the link I got a login page, and I can't get any further because I'm not on Twitter. -- Mythigator 14:11, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

Amending the above: I got in through the link in the episode. The time of the tweet was around 5:00 pm Sunday the 13th, Pacific time, which means that it went online when the episode aired on the USA East Coast. -- Mythigator 14:18, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

Thank you. Can you view any other ones? Also, I don't have a Twitter account either, but I can see the tweets. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 14:20, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

Whether I can view any other ones apparently depends on how the link is configured. Based on recent experience, though, I should be able to view every tweet sent from the HomerJSimpson account. Was there something in particular you were looking for, or any specific tweet(s) you wanted to check on? That account has sent out a boatload of tweets. -- Mythigator 14:29, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

Yeah, there are a lot there. I was just wondering if the time zone for the tweets stay the same all the time. I need to American-ise the times for the HomerJSimpson page. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 14:31, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

The time zone should be all the same for each tweet, within each user account. I suggest you check the time on the "apple sticker" tweet. If it says around 5:00 pm, then you're seeing them with Pacific time zone timestamps. -- Mythigator 14:39, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

"apple sticker" tweet? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 14:56, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

The one you linked to.--Cook879 15:01, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

The one referred to as having been put online while "Ned 'n Edna's Blend Agenda" was showing. The full text of the tweet is on the episode's References tab. -- Mythigator 15:03, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

I get that tweet as 1:01 AM, 14th May. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 15:09, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

You're seeing the times in your own time zone, then. To change them to Eastern time, subtract 5 hours; to change them to Pacific, subtract 8 hours. There are a couple of short periods each year when you only need to subtract 4 hours for Eastern and 7 for Pacific, because USA Daylight Savings Time and British Summer Time aren't in effect for exactly the same time frames during the year. If you want to go into further detail, what say we open a Time Zone topic on your talk page (since you would be the one in need of the information) and later (probably tonight my time) I'll get the details figured out and post them for you. Is that OK by you? -- Mythigator 15:29, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

Uh, okily-dokily. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 10:45, 18 May 2012 (EDT)

Haven't gotten to it yet because it's been a crazy few days at work and I've been dead tired when I got home. I should have the info posted sometime this weekend. -- Mythigator 10:53, 18 May 2012 (EDT)

Quotes[edit]

Our quotes policy is that the colons next to people's names are bolded, and that you do not put quotation marks around the speech. Please tell if you have found a place where it says otherwise. Thanks, | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 14:59, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

This is where. Shove off. -- Mythigator 15:02, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

Sorry if I sounded harsh before. Anyway, you can "shove off" now, I'm going to re-qrite the policy to fit with our current style. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 15:05, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

Why don't you fix your bloody effed-up signature block before you go mucking with policy? Secondly, where's your documentation saying that the quotes standard you put forth is the current one? And thirdly, after I went to the trouble of building that Quotes page and getting everything transcribed, and your first reaction is to nitpick, that makes you come off not just as harsh, but like an ass, an ingrate, and a git all rolled into one. Just what sort of reaction did you expect? -- Mythigator 15:11, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

Fine, I'll fix my sig. Secondly, it's how Solar's been doing it so ask him. It seems like the current style at the moment, though. Thirdly, not all quotes pages have been fixed with any style. We should be able to clean them up eventually. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 15:23, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

If I saw that the guidelines said it that way, I would have changed them. I, as have many others, have been adding quotes the way Randomno said. i.e.:

:'''Name:''' I said this.

But Randomno, you shouldn't just re-write policies like that, bring it up on the talk page if you notice a discrepancy. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 15:26, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

Fine. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 15:29, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

Though, I am working on a way to try and make pages more uniform, so I might open a discussion for that. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 15:30, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

(resetting indents) If that's the current style, I'll be happy to in future build Quotes pages accordingly as it's actually a bit easier than the older way (which is how I've been doing it). But I still think there are far better ways to bring up the subject. -- Mythigator 15:34, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

Thanks. I'll attempt to bring up a wiki discussion. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 15:55, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

I've been working on a way to use templates to add quotes (it's sort of based off Wikia's idea, but my one is easier to use). I think I've done it. Wikisimpsons:Sandbox. What do you think? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 14:58, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

I don't think anything about it as it made a redlink, so there's nothing to look at. -- Mythigator 15:01, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

I got to the sandbox through a link on the Recent Changes page. Now that I've actually seen it, I think it's pretty clever. One thing worth adding is a template for quotes narratives, in order to get text to be [italicized and enclosed inside square brackets]. It could be called something like {{Qu-n}}, maybe? -- Mythigator 15:10, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

Actually I think that feature is already availabe. Template:Qu-a is for actions (put inside square brackets and italicized). If you want the action on a whole line, just type {{Qu-a|line|Some person was doing this.}}. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 15:32, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

slapping forehead D'oh! You're right, indeed it is. Cool! -- Mythigator 15:39, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

line|Randomno tuts | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 15:50, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

Well, this is freaking cool! Are these templates officially available for use on the wiki, then? -- Mythigator 16:46, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

Blond and blonde[edit]

I really don't want to start an argument again, but are there policies and stuff that say you write "blond" regardless of gender? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 08:56, 19 May 2012 (EDT)

No, but that's how we've been doing it. A couple of years ago, we had the gender-dependent usage of "blond" for males and "blonde" for females. I wasn't in on the thought process that went into the decision, but it was decided to just use "blond" for everyone, and shortly after that every usage of "blonde" on the wiki was changed to "blond". The reason might have had to do with Brunella Pommelhorst, whose hair is that color, at the time being a possibly transgendered person, but that's just a guess on my part. -- Mythigator 09:07, 19 May 2012 (EDT)

Fine. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 09:25, 19 May 2012 (EDT)

To be honest, I didn't even know that there was a difference in spelling depending on gender. This was most likely a mistake on my part to start with which everyone then replicated and I take full blame for this. I just thought that it was another American thing tbh :P The Solar Dragon 15:21, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

"Blonde" generally refers solely to females while "blond" can refer to either gender. Referrring to everyone as "blond" is probably the simplest thing to do and the safest, as it most likely won't run afoul of any issues regarding gender and political correctness. If you don't know what "political correctness" means, then count your blessings. :-) At any rate, we should be fine with using "blond" as the hair color for both males and females. Maybe some other time we can resolve the "ginger vs. red" issue ... :-) -- Mythigator 15:36, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

Well[edit]

I cannot request through Email due to personal and technical reasons, but are you willing to affiliate with Ratchetpedia? If you reject us (if so, please do it in a nice way, since it took me a lot of courage to ask this), I'll understand. Besides, we're not a Simpsons-related wiki and as of May 21, we have less than 200 articles, no logo or banner, and very few templates, plus only two active users (Sove and I). UxieLover1994 11:30, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

The last info I had about Solar regarding the topic was that he was trying to have the affiliates be mainly Simpsons-related, but your status as a Wikisimpsons user and your anti-THTSNBN stance might cut some ice. I can't make any guarantees, though. Let me have a look at your wiki (probably this evening, USA Pacific Time) and drop Solar a line, and we'll see where it goes from there. (BTW, that funny acronym stands for The Host That Shall Not Be Named; I'm pretty sure you know what "host" I'm talking about and where the reference comes from.) -- Mythigator 13:45, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

That I thank with all my heart, even if I'm rejected. It's also interesting to note that Ratchetpedia is just as anti-THTSNBN (yep, I know which one you're talking about, and where the referances come from) as WikiSimpsons and SEIWA. UxieLover1994 12:09, 23 May 2012 (EDT)

After taking a look, I'm going to say a respectful "no" without troubling Solar. When we've affiliated with non-Simpsons-related wikis in the past, they have been well-developed ones, and Ratchetpedia just isn't quite there yet. It looks like you're just getting started at this point. (However, that doesn't mean I can guarantee a "yes" when Ratchetpedia is further along.) But at any rate, I think you've laid some terrific groundwork, and, again, I like your anti-THTSNBN stance. Cheers! -- Mythigator 09:12, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

Thanks for your kindness. Even though we may be rejected, I'm not upset; in fact, I'm actually happy that we spoke, friend. I may not ask again for a long time, since I first want to get a real work on with the wiki. And about my anti-THTSNBN stance, thanks. :) UxieLover1994 10:10, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

Meeting[edit]

Coming to the meeting? It's on now. ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 15:02, 26 May 2012 (EDT)

Troy McClure template[edit]

Added the italics and fixed the also mentioned and origin. Anything else?--Cook879 16:58, 26 May 2012 (EDT)

• The "something else" I mentioned was the {{Image Fox}} template. If you use the vertical bar (|) to add an episode title to the text, the wording gets all stilted. For an example, see Homer Hedge Morph.jpg. I took a quick look at the template a few days ago. While I think the fix is something I could puzzle out given enough time to work by trial and error, that template is so widely used (and so important in terms of keeping us legit) that expediency seemed advisable. So I figured I'd mention it to someone who was good with templates, and you happened to show up when I was thinking about it. Anyway, that's what was on my mind; hope the fix isn't too ugly a job. -- Mythigator 18:53, 26 May 2012 (EDT)

Whoops, must have messed it up when adding the other field. I'll try and figure it out.--Cook879 19:07, 26 May 2012 (EDT)

Ok, I think everything should be ok now.--Cook879 19:45, 26 May 2012 (EDT)

Looks great. It just needed a "the" in front of "FOX show", which I took care of. -- Mythigator 20:13, 26 May 2012 (EDT)

Images - Comics category[edit]

Hi. Why do you add Category:Images - Comics to every comic image you upload? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 03:00, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

Before the creation of the Bongo template that was the only thing that categorized comic images from the rest.--Cook879 07:01, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

Following the established pattern for applying categories to comics, once I figured out what it was. If we don't need that category anymore, it's no problem to stop using it. Soooo ... if someone could please provide some information instead of nitpicking, I'll respond accordingly. -- Mythigator 08:21, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

Uter Zorker?[edit]

Hey, Myth. On the page "Meat and You: Partners in Freedom", you put in Uter under the reactions section, but I could've sworn it was Ham who said that line. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 09:18, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

I didn't remember who the speaker was, so I went by SNPP.com, which attributed the quote to Uter. If you're pretty sure it was Ham, go ahead and change it (and maybe change the Uter-isitic "Jah" to "Yeah" as well). SNPP doesn't get stuff wrong that often, but it does happen sometimes. Good catch, Nick. -- Mythigator 09:28, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

I only remembered it because it was one of his only speaking appearances (As well as the only time he appeared in Lisa' class). In fact, I beleive the image on his page comes from this episode. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 09:32, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

It was definitely Ham. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 10:23, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

I agree. The more I think about that scene, the more I'm sure it was Ham instead of Uter. Anyway, Nick fixed that quotation, so it's all fine now. -- Mythigator 11:14, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

☆The Bronze Homer Award☆[edit]

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Affiliates[edit]

Can Fish Hooks Wiki become affiliates with Wikisimpsons again now? Thanks, ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 15:50, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

I take it FHW was previously an affiliate, but was de-listed when ShoutWiki were having all of their server woes? In that case you are in a unique situation and I think your best bet would be to contact Solar directly (or wait and see if he gets involved in this discussion). My role regarding affiliations is typically to research the requesting site and then make a recommendation, but that doesn't seem to apply here as research would be a moot point and FHW got a "yes" before. -- Mythigator 07:39, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

Actually Mythigator, I told Phinbart to come to you as I wasn't actually sure whether to say yes this time round so was going to leave it up to you to decide. :P Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 08:16, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

LOL! Well ... FHW looks to be in good shape and well-done in general, so I would have no problem with listing it as a non-Simpsons affiliate. The only reservation I have concerns whether ShoutWiki have their server issues resolved, but since I was actually able to visit FHW on SW, the answer to that question seems to be "yes". My recommendation is to go ahead and re-list FHW. -- Mythigator 08:22, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

Yeah, ShoutWiki's server issues are now solved and we are putting precautions in place to make sure nothing like that happens again or, if it does happen again, we can get up and running again a lot quicker than before, hopefully within a day... Hopefully it won't come to that though. :P Okay, I'll add FHW back as an affiliate then. Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 08:26, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

Which episode is this?[edit]

I've been trying to think of this one, not having any luck, and it's starting to bug me ... anyway, at the very beginning, Marge is vacuuming and realizes that Maggie is nowhere to be seen. She sees movement in the vacuum cleaner bag, though, and then unzips the bag to find a dirty-but-OK Maggie inside. Marge tells Maggie something like, "This will be our secret." Maggie gives Marge a dirty look, straightens her hair bow, and crawls away in a huff. Any ideas, anyone? -- Mythigator 08:56, 28 June 2012 (EDT)

I'll check Simpsons World later, see if "vacuuming" or something is in the index. I tried a Google search and you know what I got? Your question on Yahoo Answers :P--Cook879 10:27, 28 June 2012 (EDT)

I got the same results myself after I posted the question. :-P I did better when I added "snpp" to the Google search terms, but still no luck finding that episode. Thanks for the try, though. What I'm up to is trying to find something to put in the References tab of all the Maggie's Crib stories, and the vacuum incident strikes me as being a good Continuity link for Maggie's Crib 20. -- Mythigator 11:15, 28 June 2012 (EDT)

Am I right in thinking that she was distracted and hoovered up various things beforehand? Or was this another episode.--Cook879 16:01, 28 June 2012 (EDT)

Marge might have been in a hurry, but I don't specifically remember her vacumming up anything else she wasn't supposed to. She finished the job, missed Maggie, saw the movement in the vacuum cleaner bag, and opened the bag to find Maggie inside. As far as I recall, the only anamolous thing in the bag was Maggie. -- Mythigator 16:17, 28 June 2012 (EDT)

She said "twelve minutes, a new personal best", but I can't find which episodes. /AleWi 23:37, 28 June 2012 (EDT)

WooHoo!! Found it, thanks to Ale supplying the "personal best" line. The scene happens at the very beginning of "The Great Louse Detective". It doesn't have a capsule on simpsonsarchive.com, which explains my lack of luck before. -- Mythigator 00:10, 29 June 2012 (EDT)

Editor meeting[edit]

Can you add to the site notice at we have one today at 3PM WikiSimpsons Time? /AleWi

Got the sitenotice taken care of. I have an errand to run but I should be back in time for the meeting. -- Mythigator 13:47, 7 July 2012 (EDT)

☆The Bronze Homer Award☆[edit]

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The Incredibly Simulating Life of Sideshow Mel credits[edit]

Hey Myth, have you got any credits in what you are using for these comics, 'cos Simpsons Comics Royale doesn't have any. If you don't, as we don't have credits for Krusty Comics #1 yet I'll redirect it to Simpsons Comics Royale/Credits (it has a section for every writer and artist of the stories, so it's the best alternative).--Cook879 07:28, 9 September 2012 (EDT)

• I don't have any credits for the Mel stories, and this after doing some Googling ... if I'd hit paydirt, I would've posted 'em. Comic credits are so easy to handle (especially by comparison with TV episode credits) that I tend to post those pretty early in the process of doing the writing for a comic story article. Redirecting to the Royale credits is a pretty good solution. It looks better than a redlink, and if we happen to learn later of specific credits for the Mel stories, there is of course no problem about puting them in. -- Mythigator 11:31, 9 September 2012 (EDT)

Ok, just though I'd check, as Catch of the Day had credits on its page, but not in Royale.--Cook879 12:00, 9 September 2012 (EDT)

---

My girlfriend scored all 3 Krusty Comics issues for me for Valentine's Day. After taking a quick look at them, I don't see any credits for the Sideshow Mel stories, but I'll go through them with a fine-toothed comb and see what turns up. -- Mythigator 08:13, 14 February 2013 (EST)

Wikisimpsons:Featured article[edit]

For an "A Simpleton Plan" have you both vote Support and Neutral You can only vote on one option. /AleWi 09:00, 12 October 2012 (EDT)

• I support including the article, but I had an observation which supports having it on the main page even though it's a comic story and we now have a Comics main page. I posted that before having my coffee, so I'll get it straightened out now. It should have been a comment instead of a Neutral entry. -- Mythigator 09:04, 12 October 2012 (EDT)

Tapped Out[edit]

Do you have The Simpsons: Tapped Out? If you do, could you read this please. ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 10:56, 28 October 2012 (EDT)

Don't have it. My cell phone isn't anywhere close to being smart enough to do gaming. -- Mythigator 12:12, 28 October 2012 (EDT)

The Last of Maggie's Crib?[edit]

Looking at the summaries for the next couple issees of Bart Simpson Comics, it doesn't look like there are going to be any Maggie's Crib segments. Has Sergio Aragonés quit doing the stories, or is he just taking a break since he had so much involvement in One-Shot Wonder – Maggie #1? I was thinking the latter was the case, but I noticed that Sergio put the word "End" in the last frame of Maggie's Crib 29. He hasn't done that before, so now I've got a sad suspicion that he may be done with the stories. :-( -- Mythigator 12:26, 17 November 2012 (EST)

The Platinum Award[edit]

Which user do you think has made excellent contributions over the past year? Vote if you think they deserve the Platinum or Crystal award. ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 11:49, 9 February 2013 (EST)

Peanuts article[edit]

Hey. I'm all for a Peanuts article. I would suggest you start it in your userspace and move it to the mainspace once it has most references in. Other references can be added by others as they are noticed. ☆The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)}☆ 18:20, 17 February 2013 (EST)

Haven't worked with userspace so I'm not sure how to go about it. But I'm pretty sure I can locate five or more already-existing Peanuts references without too much trouble. Since that's our threshold for a topic to get its own references article, it would be enough to get one going in the regular namepsace. -- Mythigator 21:32, 17 February 2013 (EST)

Okay then. Creating articles in the userspace is just the same as creating them in the mainspace. Just enter "User:Mythigator/Article name", create the article as normal (without any categories) then move to the mainspace when finished, suppressing the redirect. But, if you can find five references, just create the article straight up. The Solar Dragon 05:02, 18 February 2013 (EST)

Let me give it a try ... User:Mythigator/Peanuts ... -- Mythigator 09:06, 18 February 2013 (EST)

Shoot, that was cake. Got the intro written and the basic layout done, so I'll keep playing with it until it's ready for prime time. That shouldn't take long, though. -- Mythigator 09:30, 18 February 2013 (EST)

I thought of six references without too much trouble (although I still need one picture), so I'm putting it into the mainspace. -- Mythigator 10:52, 18 February 2013 (EST)

Okay. A quick search for Snoopy would probably bring up more references. Another one, You're in the Matrix, Charlie Brown comes to mind too. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 10:53, 18 February 2013 (EST)

Email[edit]

Hi, for some reason, I am unable to send emails from my account, I'm looking into getting a new email account with a different provider. Look at Special:Preferences. In the first section, you should find what you want. Thanks, ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 09:06, 20 February 2013 (EST)

☆The Crystal Homer Award☆[edit]

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What is that thing?[edit]

I'm doing an article on Evan Conniver, the guy in this picture. What is the thing he's holding? ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 10:40, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

An reversal film. /AleWi 10:44, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, it's before your time Phinbart :P Basically, those card things are actually photos which, when put upside down into the projector, can be projected onto a screen or wall. Patty and Selma love these things :P ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:46, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

Thanks, ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 10:48, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

That is a bit of old-school technology. He's holding a photographic slide from a Slide projector. The Wikipedia link (and some of the other links in that article) should provide a pretty thorough explanation. On the show, Patty and Selma use a slide projector to show their vacation photos at the beginning of "Flaming Moe's". When I was in college, I had a couple of class projects where I had to make slides for presentations. -- Mythigator 10:51, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

BTW, that article already exists. -- Mythigator 10:53, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

I put the subtitles on to see how to spell the name and it was "Conniver". Which is correct? ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 10:54, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

It's "Conover" per simpsonsarchive.com [1], and I'll vouch for it to the death based on multiple viewings of the episode. The subtitle you saw is the result of a transcription error. I'd surmise that the transcriber wasn't familiar with the Simpsons universe and thus typed "Conniver" in the interest of getting the job done and because it's the real word that sounds most like "Conover". -- Mythigator 11:04, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

I'll merge the articles then. ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 11:05, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

Could you delete Evan Conniver and File:Evan Conniver.png? Thanks, ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 11:11, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

Attended to. -- Mythigator 19:57, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

Golden Homer[edit]

Please vote in the May Golden Homer Awards. /AleWi 09:55, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

Countdown timer[edit]

Hi Mythigator. Since you're American, could you just double check the countdown timer to make sure it would end on 8PM Eastern time in the US? I think it will do but just want to make sure. Thanks, Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 18:15, 26 June 2013 (EDT)

It looks good. It will reach zero at 5 PM Pacific Time, which corresponds to 8 PM Eastern. After that, of course, I'll have to wait another three hours for the season premiere ... murmur, murmur. :-) Anyway, the timer is a nice touch. -- Mythigator 18:57, 26 June 2013 (EDT)

Golden Homer[edit]

Please vote in the June Golden Homer Awards. /AleWi 13:45, 29 June 2013 (EDT)

☆The Silver Homer Award☆[edit]

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Wikisimpsons needs featured nominations and votes![edit]

Please nominate and vote for our Featured articles, episodes, quotes, pictures and comprehensive articles /AleWi (talk) 15:24, September 28, 2013 (EDT)

Colonel Homer[edit]

Lurleen Lumpkins' line in Colonel Homer is "everybody's been calling, mama, daddy..." so he's mentioned in that episode. 24.141.5.202 19:53, November 29, 2013 (EST)

Do you really want to say that Teddy Kennedy is alive? Really?[edit]

One, you're wrong on a revert. I didn't revert his edit. I changed to something else. As User:Solar wrote, he apologized for being rude with that warning. Again, there are is no need for threats as an introduction. Two, it's a bad policy. I mean The Simpsons create characters, but they didn't create Teddy Kennedy or Steve Allen or whoever so it's kind of gross to have them listed as alive. Don't we owe the dead some respect with it's creepy to have them listed as alive unless an episode indicate they are dead without a doubt. Couldn't the Wiki comprise and just leave that blank. It's not the same as when Phil Hartman died and they retired Lionel Hutz since these were real people being characterized by the series. I get that The Simpsons in-universe and reality are not the same, but clearly Teddy Kennedy is dead and they might still poke fun at him in future, but the show has never pretended he alive still. Can't the comprise, out of respect for the dead and their surviving loved ones, to just leave that blank. 24.141.5.202 13:12, December 2, 2013 (EST)

If the real life person is alive when (s)he is mentioned in the show first, they are counted as alive until they are mentioned to be otherwise. This is because the character and the real life person are not the same person. For example, do you really think Stan Lee goes into comic book stores, moves everything around then rips off his shirt claiming to be the Hulk? Characters are different to the real life people. Bob Hope was 92 when he appeared in "Lisa the Beauty Queen" yet he looks a lot younger than that, by at least 15-20 years younger. They are not the same as the real life character, just a character based on them. Read Wikisimpsons:Character statuses. It explains it all there. Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 16:04, December 2, 2013 (EST)

I know they are characterizations, but characterizations of real people is different then creating an original character. And differences between them interacting with fictional character then listing somebody who has died as alive in the Simpsons universe (and frankly somewhat disrespectful). Please, if you think of totally out to lunch that Senator Kennedy, Steve Allen, Bob Hope, etc... as alive when they're dead is just creepy? Is it really that important to have a status either way? I get that this policy is issued, but I'd like to open it up again. Can't the comprise on these very few dead people (RIP to them) just be left blank out of respect. Or "deceased in real life" for this, again, very narrow group of people who characterizations of real people who have died in real life since appearing. 24.141.5.202 17:13, December 2, 2013 (EST)

We put this in place as The Simpsons =/= Real life. Real life is different to The Simpsons. They are not the same. When a character comes into The Simpsons, they are just that, a character. Real life has no impact on the show in terms of in-universe stuff. Each character, even if it's based on a real-life person, is fictional. Allow me to quote the closing credits of every episode: "The persons in this film are fictitous. Any Similarity to actual persons or events is unintentional.". We're not doing it to disrespect the deceased. We are doing it because we go by facts on the wiki, not fan fiction, and we do not remove facts because something unrelated happened in real life. ☆The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)}☆ 17:19, December 2, 2013 (EST)

Well, drawings are "Alive" or "Dead" either so the whole status thing can be brought into question. In a flashback to Shelbyville Manhattan is decease since nowhere has it been stated otherwise. Somebody who was alive in 1796 couldn't possibly be alive, but a fictional character in a cartoon could be still alive. I point this out since it's inconsistent to this policy as well as the idea that a legal disclaimer is the same as being obvious and the production team admitted "that's [fill in the blank]". I could keep arguing, but you seem pretty set in this disrespectful policy towards the ACTUAL dead and their loved ones (I don't write that to be mean or provoke angry, but feel that way personally). I still think it's wrong and creepy, but fine, I haven't convinced you to at least reconsider. 24.141.5.202 17:59, December 2, 2013 (EST)

Well, I'm pretty sure that Shelbyville Manhattan has been referred to as being dead at some point. The difference is that he died before the series started, in The Simpsons timeline. Anyone deceased before their appearance is deceased. And how is it disrespectful to say that a fictional character is alive? It is in no way disrespectful to anyone. They're a fictional character. A caricature of a real person, yes, but they are fictional as they are part of a huge fictional world. That's how you have to think of it. As a separate world. We have our world (the real world) and The Simpsons world. They are two separate realities, one of which is fictional to us. Our world has no effect on The Simpsons world. They do not interact. They do not influence each other in any way. Therefore, someone can be dead in one world but alive in another.

Look at Sci-Fi shows and movies. Sometimes, there will be a multiple reality episode. Sometimes, a character who has died earlier in the main reality might return via the alternate reality as they never died in that reality. It's the same concept. Would you say that it's disrespectful to the character's memory that an alternate version of themselves has appeared? That's all it is. Alternate versions. A real version and a fictional version. We won't change the policy as there is absolutely nothing wrong with the policy. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 18:09, December 2, 2013 (EST)

Three things ...

1. You did revert. You were warned already, and we already had a friendly enough intro over the Royce Lumpkin article. Again, I think you're right-on about the quote; I just would like to confirm it.
2. Regarding dead vs. alive, what Solar said. If you don't like the policy, go edit somewhere else.
3. I changed my mind about saying the third thing. If you keep going the way you're going, you'll hear it soon enough anyway, whether it's from me or someone else.

-- Mythigator (talk) 20:36, December 2, 2013 (EST)

Whoa, calm down with "go edit somewhere else" nonsense. If you don't like other people editing here, don't use wikis (it's the whole point of them versus a real encyclopedia with an academy). Yes, I disagree with your policy and still do. Teddy Kennedy is just as dead in The Simpsons universe as he is the real world rather then some Sci-Fi stuff or "They do not influence each other in any way." as if The Simpsons created Steve Allen or Bob Hope out of thin air. The Simpsons is real world when we want it to be and not when we don't. It's a satire which is directly related to reality and couldn't work otherwise. It's a blurry area and different fans with disagree in good faith about it (at I hope so). I did not revert because there's a "revert" option and I didn't use it. I left it blank rather then deceased. Please, there is no need for this hostility. I haven't been edit in bad faith or to create problems with you or anyone else. Please, the Internet is a weird place where people get really upset when somebody else is wrong on it. I still don't agree with this policy, but you don't. That's fine. The world still keeps on spinning either way. 24.141.5.202 23:05, December 2, 2013 (EST)

OK, here's something you should be aware of ... "Revert" does not mean only using the "revert" option. If an editor makes a change and another editor undoes it, that is also reversion. Point being, it is entirely possible to run afoul of the "only revert once" rule without using the revert option. So if you have the notion that not using the revert option renders you immune from getting into trouble over that rule, please get it out of your head at once as that is wrong. -- Mythigator (talk) 02:28, December 3, 2013 (EST)

Again, please just calm down on the "get it into your head" aggressive tactics stuff. I'm hoping to just be pleasant as possible to a total stranger and only hope for that in return. So you're changing what a revert is on the fly? It's coming across that this all REALLY matter to you that I feel like crap or something. There's no need for any of this really? So you'll pretend that Teddy Kennedy, Steve Allen, whoever else is still alive. The idea that every single character is assumed alive until implicitly made clear in an episode that he/she isn't seems weird since you run it the other way that every character is assumed dead until implicitly stated to be alive. I made a case against the current policy and tried to counter on points brought up against, been ignore or dismissed or ignored on that point. I didn't do it to cause offensive, unlike terms "get it through your head," but because I honestly thought it was weird to have Teddy Kennedy, clear as day a characterization of a real person who has died, marked as alive. Yet it's fine and obviously it isn't that major. Again, I still think it's weird and yes, editing "deceased" then editing "blank" as a comprise seem different enough to not be starting a revert edit war. The revert policy seems to be about not starting edit wars and going to TalkPages to discuss the issue. That's what I did. I'm allowed to think what I like and so are you about silly stuff like this. Wikis are suppose to be fun, right? Please, I've ask repeatedly for a tone down on the aggressiveness that feels very needless. 24.141.5.202 02:45, December 3, 2013 (EST)

Make an account and you'll be taken more seriously and most likely get more respect. Unfair, true, but that's how it is. And the "get it out of your head" part is not referring to the "dead vs. alive" policy, but to what constitutes reversion. I thought you were laboring under the impression that not using the "revert" option would keep you from getting into trouble. If I was mistaken, my bad and my apologies. But I'm okay with eating a little crow in the interest of making sure you're informed about the issue. -- Mythigator (talk) 02:54, December 3, 2013 (EST)