User talk:Solar Dragon/Archive 19

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Rightio then...

Just a random bit of fun I thought I'd share (here). --Will (talk) 02:59, 12 December 2011 (EST)

IMDb is sort of like a wiki, except everything has to be verified first. Occasionally, some stupid nonsense does get through, such as a false Doctor Who episode one that came around a couple of years ago. Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 06:57, 12 December 2011 (EST)

Mmm, IMDb is really poor when it comes to so many aspects, like TV shows, or yet-to-be-released films. --Will (talk) 00:46, 13 December 2011 (EST)

Simpsons on iTunes

I just wanted to give you this link, where you can request more Simpsons seasons on iTunes:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunes.html

I've been requesting for quite some time now. I just wanted to tell you about that.

WebkinzMania 13:48, 17 December 2011 (EST)

Urm... well, I don't have an iPod (yet) so doesn't really help me :P Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 13:51, 17 December 2011 (EST)

Lol, you have iTunes itself? I can help out with some episodes if they add it. I already have season 21 on iTunes and am waiting to get 22 for Christmas this year. I have a few other episodes from earlier seasons too. WebkinzMania 15:59, 18 December 2011 (EST)

No, I don't have iTunes. No need for it when I don't have an iPod :P The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 16:00, 18 December 2011 (EST)

There may be an editor meeting tomorrow normal time

"There may be an editor meeting tomorrow normal time." should be "There may be an editor meeting today normal time." /AleWi 05:51, 20 December 2011 (EST)

Thanks for pointing that out. The Solar Dragon 06:12, 20 December 2011 (EST)

Coldplay

What is your favourite song of theirs? Jhonevans 08:33, 21 December 2011 (EST)

Well... kind of off topic you know. There are too many good songs to choose from. I can narrow it down to about 4 songs that I think are all equal, Don't Panic, Paradise, Princess of China and Lost+ The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 08:36, 21 December 2011 (EST)

Haha, surprised Yellow or The Scientist wasn't on your list. I see you added me as a foe..? Jhonevans 08:58, 21 December 2011 (EST)

They come close. And yes, I added you as a foe. You're from Wikia, therefore you're a foe of mine. The Solar Dragon 08:59, 21 December 2011 (EST)

And yet I have been so nice to you... Jhonevans 09:04, 21 December 2011 (EST)

You're not doing anything to help the wiki though. ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 09:07, 21 December 2011 (EST)

Yeah, yeah. One more question. Would you have left wikia if they provided the Monobook option originally? (keep in mind you wouldn't have been banned etc.) Jhonevans 09:09, 21 December 2011 (EST)

Our whole quarrel with Wikia was because of the skin. However, even if they hadn't have made a new skin, we may have left at a later point seeing all their shit featured they've made now (replacing talk pages, user pages etc.) Plus, now we're independent, we are so much better than we ever were on Wikia. New skin, new extensions, a lot more pages and more freedom to do as we please. It's great. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 10:26, 21 December 2011 (EST)

(Oh, and sorry about the late reply. I was watching Futurama episodes) The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 10:27, 21 December 2011 (EST)

Scratchy's Service Station

For some strange reason, the infobox image for Scratchy's Service Station and Lunch Counter is not showing up in the article. I built and previewed the article while the database was locked, and everything looked fine then. After that, I copied the code to a text file and kept it until the database was unlocked, at which time I copied the code back onto the wiki and saved the article. Everything worked fine except the image in the infobox. Any idea what's up?(shrug) -- Mythigator 04:09, 23 December 2011 (EST)

I've seen this before but the usual method of fixing it didn't work. Plus, I don't see any reason why it should be doing this. The only time this has happened before was because the image name has a strange symbol in, which it didn't this time. I've asked Jake though so hopefully he should fix it. ☆The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)}☆ 04:29, 23 December 2011 (EST)

Well, the image shows up now, and I notice that the file name now has spaces in it (the idea behind the rename being to give the database a nudge?), so whatever you and/or Jake did, it worked. Thanks. -- Mythigator 08:26, 23 December 2011 (EST)

The rename was to do just that, except it didn't work. The pathway for image thumbnails had changed since the server move so Jake just needed to change that. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 08:31, 23 December 2011 (EST)

Help

Hi could you help me with this Template:SC? I want to shorten this Template:ComicsList. FatHomer^Talk 04:25, 2 January 2012 (EST)

Try that. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 05:03, 2 January 2012 (EST)

Thanks :) FatHomer^Talk 06:27, 2 January 2012 (EST)

Help

Hi, how do i verify my email adress to my piwik account? And it would be great if you could put up a notis that when people create an article, they should also make sure there's a link to it. Because it's no use to have orphaned pages. FatHomer^Talk 15:33, 2 January 2012 (EST)

Urm... I'm not sure as not even I have done so. You'll have to ask Jake. I try to link to articles when I make them (through appearances pages or otherwise) but some people don't. It's common sense mostly. The Solar Dragon 15:35, 2 January 2012 (EST)

Shouldn't some of these be deleted, Category:Images_-_User_space ? FatHomer^Talk 08:57, 3 January 2012 (EST)

wikisimpsons.com?

Hi,

I'm just wondering why we don't have the adress "wikisimpsons.com"? It's not registered and our name is "Wikisimpsons". FatHomer^Talk 04:37, 7 January 2012 (EST)

simpsonswiki.net was chosen as more people would search for "simpsons wiki" than "wikisimpsons". That's the only reason. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 06:46, 7 January 2012 (EST)

There is also an address called http://wikisimpsons.net, but that's been taken up by a Simpsons sign in Spanish. Also, Solar, I've corrected a spelling mistake in your comment. Phinbart - just one of the huge Bart fans! 07:05, 7 January 2012 (EST)

Smart. FatHomer^Talk 09:23, 7 January 2012 (EST)

Simpsons Wikia

I don't know if you have any contact with the guys that run the Simpsons Wikia, but if you do, you may want to tell them to edit their Meta Description to reflect their name change from Wikisimpsons to Simpsons Wiki. Not only is it incorrect, but it's actually hurting our search rankings as well. --Jake 08:49, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Thanks for that. I've pointed it out to one of the admins so he should hopefully change it. The Solar Dragon 10:44, 12 January 2012 (EST)

And it is changed. :) Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 10:50, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Wow, I didn't expect to receive such a prompt response from a Wikia site. Thanks! :) --Jake 15:25, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Well, I kind of made a new account who no one suspected as me and asked an admin on the chat function as well as leaving a talk page comment on an admin's page (which looks unlike anything I would write and unsigned of course, I know how to avoid detection :P) ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 15:26, 12 January 2012 (EST)

That make more sense! :P --Jake 16:55, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Yeah, I couldn't really go in and ask them to do it as me. I mean, I'm blocked :P ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 16:57, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Just for future reference, gents ... I'm on decent terms with the Simpsons Wikia crowd, so if we have any further need to contact them in an official capacity, there should be no problem about me dropping them a line. -- Mythigator 18:48, 12 January 2012 (EST)

That's good to know. Thanks! --Jake 07:31, 13 January 2012 (EST)

500th episode poster

Do you know what the file name is for the 500th episode poster? I'm sure it's still on the wiki, but it's not on any of the pages. Phinbart - just one of the huge Bart fans! 14:28, 12 January 2012 (EST)

If it's not on any pages, it's been deleted then. I delete all unused files if I can't find a use for them. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 14:29, 12 January 2012 (EST)

[[:File:Comic con 2011.jpg|Found it]]. ☆The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)}☆ 14:36, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Upload images

Can you restore File:Simpsons Season1.jpg File:Menu.gif File:vlcsnap-2010-08-26-21h54m57s249.jpg and File:vlcsnap-2010-08-26-21h56m59s139.jpg ? /AleWi 09:25, 18 January 2012 (EST)

Done. Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 09:27, 18 January 2012 (EST)

Stuff and things

Coming across some old, old interactions between others on another wiki, including you, i felt like stopping by. Despite that fact that I was banned for no reason for several months due to supergeeky1's lies, I still have no ill feelings towards you and the others here and was overjoyed at yet another independent wiki surpassing the crap on wikia (i still am struggling to make the extra 5000 articles i need). Escyos 124.184.177.192 04:46, 19 January 2012 (EST)

Hi, I realize I was wrong to block you and I actually removed your block a while ago now. Sorry for everything and you are free to come back if you wish. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 05:27, 19 January 2012 (EST)

2 templates side by side?

Hi, is there any code to get 2 templates side by side? FatHomer^Talk 06:51, 21 January 2012 (EST)

Depends on what sort of templates. Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 06:52, 21 January 2012 (EST)

Sitenotice

Hi,

could you put this on the sitenotice : Blog:Blog:Comments on Wikisimpsons.
Thanks! FatHomer^Talk 05:14, 22 January 2012 (EST)

A website called Wikia, and a community called us

I am not Homer7426 (technically). I am not a Wikian (technically). I am a user that edits a wiki about The Simpsons hosted by Wikia. Jhonevans has quoted bits of some of your e-mails. Most of the people at Wikia, we never chose to edit there, we just found it randomly or already edited other wikis there and found the Simpsons one. People like Phinbart of Frederick, for example, probably found this one first (I know Phinbart didn't). You spent ages spamming the site for people to move, so now we might. Now, however, you seem to have gone against this. If you want more editors, pages etc., then we could move. This has not yet been decided by the community on the other wiki. There will be some conditions, if you do want this to happen:

Achievements

Many people like these, so I don't know why they were removed in the first place. They weren't copyright Wikia, wre they?

Chat

Quite a load better than editor's meetings, don't you think?

Admins from the other wiki having admin rights here

After you get used to them, it's annoying without them.

That's roughly it for now. Please reply sensibly, and I don't wish you a happy birthday, yet. By the way, I live about 50 miles away from you. Homer7426 06:09, 22 January 2012 (EST)

Okay, I'm going to reply sensibly as you said (although those last couple of sentences almost swayed me to be sarcastic about this whole thing).

Achievements

Achievements are a Wikia-only extension. They have not released the code for this extension so we can not get it here. Also, with the extension, we noticed a lot of spam and vandal edits happening. So, even if the code was released, we would likely not get them. If Wikia does release the code for achievements, we might be swayed to go for a trial run to see how they go. If we get the spam again, then they would be gone. However, we do have another award system, The Golden Homer Award. And, we may run another competition again at some point (I provided the prizes of the last competition), these were actual prizes, not just wiki code etc.

Chat

The chat function, it isn't as good as IRC. You can either use the Freenode gateway and connect to our #wikisimpsons channel (Linky) or download a chat client (I use ChatZilla). Both of these have more features than Wikia's chat function. You can set the channel modes to more, make it so people with voice only can speak, give other users operator powers, set topics, etc. If you were to use IRC, you may agree that it is better than the chat.

Admins from the other wiki having admin rights here

Admins from the other wiki retaining their admin rights, if you guys to decide to come over, I would like to see you guys edit more first and gain my trust. I would not like to give you guys admin rights only for you to delete our articles. I would likely wait a month or so and then the Wikia admins would be free to place requests for their rights. However, since our community had no say in who got the admin rights on Simpsons Wikia, we might be reluctant to accept a new wave of users as admins straight away. We would need time to gain your trust and respect then the chances are, you will be accepted as admins.

Hopefully these will give you the answers you want. Also, if you are still unsure why we moved, check the Sitenotice's history (if MediaWiki:Sitenotice even still exists on Simpsons Wikia) and the User Rights Log and block log. They may give you the answers you are looking for and may show you what Wikia staff are really like.

Thank you, The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 06:36, 22 January 2012 (EST)

Wikia link

Hi, Mr. Wobbly. Your Common.css contains a Wikia link. Homer 7426 06:22, 22 January 2012 (EST)

I know that. However, it's not an actual link so it's fine. Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 06:24, 22 January 2012 (EST)

Okay. Sorry about my sig, it messed up. Homer7426 06:33, 22 January 2012 (EST)

Some things - including having Oasis skin

Hello, again. If we move, we should keep the low amount of templates from the other wiki. Also, we could enable Oasis skin with a page called User:User/Skin used. This would default to whatever skin this uses at the moment. The tab template pages were the main problem, so we could use the 16:56, 25 January 2012

Simple answer... no. Being independent is so much better than being part of a wiki host. Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 12:01, 25 January 2012 (EST)

So don't bother getting you unbanned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.226.34 (talk) 17:05, 25 January 2012

Like I've said so many times, They've had a VSTF (Vandalism Spam Task Force) member try to get me unbanned. One of their most trusted users. They will never listen. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 12:10, 25 January 2012 (EST)

I know. But "IF" I can, will you? Remember we will be accommodating the best we can. Lots of changes can be made to make the new users feel at home. All your work will be brought back, we're flexible. Yet we do not want to sell ourselves out and leave. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.226.34 (talk) 17:19, 25 January 2012

I will never return to Wikia even if I was to get unbanned. Wikia screwed me over big time. They're corrupt and only care about money. I disagree with nearly all if their views and will never use it as a user again. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 12:45, 25 January 2012 (EST)

Europe

What is wrong with it? It has Simpsons references and has nothing wrong with it, really. Randomno 13:09, 25 January 2012 (EST)

The topic is too broad for one. It would need a lot of information about every visit made to Europe. And if we were just going for what you were saying, the Grease selling information would be out and it would have less than a line of information. The only other continent article we have is Antarctica and that is a special case as there are no individual countries in Antarctica. The Solar Dragon 13:11, 25 January 2012 (EST)

Most articles start off like this. Some people will probably add information over time. If we get it a lot bigger, it will probably have sections of each country in Europe they have visited. I only know The Regina Monologues. Randomno 13:15, 25 January 2012 (EST)

There are many more but we don't need an article with sections on each country. We have the country template (which could, actually, be split up into continents) and that should suffice. Otherwise there would be repeated information. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 13:33, 25 January 2012 (EST)

Project Quotes

I'd like to found a Project Quotes that aims to add quotes on the main page of all episodes. Randomno 11:28, 26 January 2012 (EST)

Firstly, that could go under project episodes as it is so minor. Secondly, projects are basically useless anyway as no one actually bothers with them :P ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 11:30, 26 January 2012 (EST)

Well, um...

Jhonevans' idea Anything you would like to add? Randomno 13:44, 26 January 2012 (EST)

What he has done is against the law. He copied the page (and image) direct from us and hasn't credited us, which is against our copyrights (Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0). Either, we must be linked to and attributed as the source of the information or that article and image should be deleted and Jhonevans be warned for it. We could push to sue Wikia for this if we really wanted to (which we don't, no good will come out of it). I would suggest that you delete the article and warn him for his crime. The Solar Dragon 13:48, 26 January 2012 (EST)

Oh, and his current way of "attributing" us doesn't work as the link is broken. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 13:50, 26 January 2012 (EST)

How do you get wiki.net off the whitelist of blacklist or whatever? Randomno 14:12, 26 January 2012 (EST)

You'll have to contact Wikia staff directly and ask them to remove it. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 14:19, 26 January 2012 (EST)

What is happening, why should they take articles and make a reference to us? FatHomer^Talk 14:26, 26 January 2012 (EST)

We would prefer it if they didn't of course but they are able to if they credit us. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 14:31, 26 January 2012 (EST)

It was Jhonevans' idea to do it. He thought it wouold be better having two 13,000 page wikis. Pretty pointless. Randomno 14:43, 26 January 2012 (EST)

I got that. Try and reason with him though. Wouldn't it be better having all the content made by you, putting your effort into it, than just stealing from elsewhere? ☆The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)}☆ 14:45, 26 January 2012 (EST)

If this persists, we can execute our right to block his IP address from accessing the site. I know he has good intentions, but stealing content directly from another wiki is not the right way to improve the Simpsons Wikia. --Jake 15:14, 26 January 2012 (EST)

I forgot about that. If I see him stealing any more of our articles, I'll get onto it. The Solar Dragon 15:17, 26 January 2012 (EST)

Sure thing. I've updated the block notice as well to better explain the content license terms. --Jake 22:24, 26 January 2012 (EST)

RRabbit has deleted the pages and images from there now and told Jhon not to do it again. Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 03:30, 27 January 2012 (EST)

Title template

Hi. I was just going to revert my edit when you did. Why don't we have a displaytitle feature? It's available from MediaWiki version 1.7 onwards. Randomno 14:30, 27 January 2012 (EST)

Maybe it hasn't been enabled? And even if it has, it only changes the case of titles and can't overwrite text. ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 14:32, 27 January 2012 (EST)

DISPLAYTITLE can change the text of the title. I changed it because it works in a an instant on Wikipedia, but Title takes ages sometimes and you even miss it changing. Randomno 15:02, 27 January 2012 (EST)

Ah, it can be done. I'll just ask Jake to enable it. The Solar Dragon 15:05, 27 January 2012 (EST)

Help

Hi, it stood on the Simpsons Comics page that it needed the new table template, but it doesn't work so good: User:FatHomer/Sandbox. No pictures are shown, I'm sure this can be fixed, the titles should be fattened. FatHomer^Talk 00:27, 28 January 2012 (EST)

You had "picture=" instead of the actual file link. See what I did. The Solar Dragon 04:33, 28 January 2012 (EST)

Hello

Hello Solar. I saw the talks your having with the Simpsons wikia about merging etc. It's good that you may be in the process of removing competition, (if I was in your position I would have told them to f*** off long ago :P ) I'm still working slowly to bring my article numbers up, I've also had 2-3 accounts signing up every day (from India) with really obvious spammer names (Yrupertb74e, Ifrederickawoodl and Jharoldb34i) all who amazingly have totally differing email accounts, so I just block them from accessing the site and move on. Escyos 04:16, 28 January 2012 (EST)

Character birth dates

Hi. You know the Simpson family first appeared on television in 1987, yes? Well, Marge's birth date and year has been given as the same date as Randy Quaid's, October 1, 1950. So, Marge would be born in 1950. 36 years later (her age) would be October 1, 1986. April 19, 1987, when the first short aired, Marge would still be 36. This all adds up, so we may be able to verify birth years. Also, in Homer Scissorhands, Bart says his birthday is too close to Christmas. Randomno 06:24, 28 January 2012 (EST)

Unless birth dates are officially stated in an official source, we can't list them. Not even if it is like "X's birthday is the same as Famous guy's birthday" as the famous person may have a different birthdate in the show. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 06:27, 28 January 2012 (EST)

Necessary?

Are images like this: File:Bart & Homer 4.gif, images that only appear on userpages, necessary ? And the category: :Category:Wikisimpsons User, an old category? FatHomer^Talk 11:30, 28 January 2012 (EST)

Depends on whether the user is on this wiki or not.--Cook879 11:36, 28 January 2012 (EST)

They are not, also could you delete this file: File:Sheri.jpg? And this category is also unnecessary: Category:Blocked_users. FatHomer^Talk 11:38, 28 January 2012 (EST)

Simpsons related user space images are useful as they can go in their categories of image galleries. Otherwise, they can be deleted. Also, the Wikisimpsons User category is still in use, although it could be removed. The Solar Dragon 11:43, 28 January 2012 (EST)

Thanks! FatHomer^Talk 11:46, 28 January 2012 (EST)

These can also be deleted: File:Partypenguin.jpg, File:Images-7--1-.jpg and File:SeasonOne.jpg for now. FatHomer^Talk 15:09, 28 January 2012 (EST)

Done. Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 15:27, 28 January 2012 (EST)

I love your transparent image work, Solar. However, Alice Glick needs one and the image that's used has about 12 links. Would you make one, possibly? WebkinzMania 18:53, 28 January 2012 (EST)

These can also be deleted: File:Sherri and terri.jpg, File:Homerevolution.gif], File:Blonde nelson.jpg, File:Ani424MS.png, File:Ani424MS.png, File:Images-1.jpeg, File:Cereal.gif, File:Th Homer Simpson 2006-1-1.png, File:Simpsons88Skin.png, File:Cpuch gga.jpg, File:Ned.gif, File:Ralph2.jpg and this File:Homer-simpson.jpg, because we have this: File:Homer-simpson.png. FatHomer^Talk 05:27, 29 January 2012 (EST)

We also got over 2500 userpages: http://simpsonswiki.net/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=2500&offset=500&ns0=1&redirs=1&search=User%3A , most of them aren't necessary. FatHomer^Talk 05:40, 29 January 2012 (EST)

Appearances

Hi,

How should we write the appearances, because it's different on different pages. On some pages it looks like this: Simpson, Homer Jay, others this: Homer Simpson, for example. FatHomer^Talk 04:48, 29 January 2012 (EST)

They are very rare to be found like Simpson, Homer Jay. They should be like Homer Simpson, nothing else. First name then last name. ☆The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)}☆ 05:12, 29 January 2012 (EST)

Advertise on Wikia

We should advertise on wikia http://shinyads.com/advertise/2587?v=eyJzaWciOiJlYTRiZmM1NGE2MDhlZWZmYmRlZDJjY2I4OGU2Y2ZkNjFkNWVkY2JhIiwiem9uZV9pZCI6MjYyNX0=& :) FatHomer^Talk 08:55, 29 January 2012 (EST)