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Hi, Solar. I was just thinking about the wiki logo and how good it is compared to some. However, it really does need "Wikisimpsons" to appear on the logo somewhere. I would do it myself, but I don't know if I have the right software and skill to do it. Maybe it could be written using the simpsons font, similar to whats been done with the "wikia" logo? And then underneath, maybe, "The Simpsons Wiki" or something like that? Seeing as this wiki seems to be getting more popular and "going up in the world", as it is, I think adding this would help. What do you think? Prehaps somebody else could make the change if you don't have the time etc? Effluvium 20:25, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

The best person to ask would be Smiley12 as he made the spotlight image and is best at that sort of stuff. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 20:27, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
OK. Will ask him now. Thanks, Solar! Effluvium 20:28, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

New Wiki Skin[edit]

Hi, Solar. Have you had a chance to check out the new beta on the Glee, Twilight, Red Dead Redemption, Muppet, and Healthy Living Wikis? What do you think? I saw you signed the petition to stop Wikia going ahead with it - I singed it too. Im not fussed on it, to be honest. Do you think Wikia will listen to us editors, or will they go ahead with it regardless. I'd like to see how Wikisimpsons would look with the new skin, shame it isn't being used in the beta testing... Effluvium 20:54, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I have been a beta tester and made my views very clear. When they make the switch, I will ask the community whether we want to move to a new Wiki client, possibly ShoutWiki. If not, I just switch to Monobook. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 20:59, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
Ah, OK. We'll see then.. Effluvium 21:00, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
I just hate this new look so much. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 21:01, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, same. It really is quite awful. I really do hope they don't go through with it... Effluvium 21:03, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
They will do. People hated Monaco and they went ahead with it. The difference is, they are removing Monaco too! ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 21:04, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
I hate it too, but we don't know whether it will look horrible here or not. Beta testing wikis like Glee look very good. I'm sure that by customizing the entire skin and background it would look good. However, there's nothing we can do with the logo, it will be just the word "Wikisimpsons" (what's the matter with Wikia?), though we could customize it with Simpson font and a little Homer's head on top. — TheHomer (TalkContributions) 22:53, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
Oh, well. We'll just have to sit tight and see what they decide to do. Effluvium 06:44, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
Hang on! This new skin is going to mess up all the "Tab systems" we have running. What are we going to do? Effluvium 06:49, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
Move away from Wikia? Tell everyone to make an account and change to Monobook to see the wiki as it should be before Wikia screwed up? ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 13:16, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
Thats quite a BIG move to make though. And only the dedicated editors will come. There will be no spotlights to attract users and Wikia has a far larger market share of these "Wiki" projects. Im really not sure. Can't believe Wikia are messing up the wikis that users have spent so long to work on. It really annoys me! Effluvium 13:19, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
And me. Maybe we should boycott Wikia or something when the change happens? ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 13:40, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
Im sure other wikis will be outraged by this change, especially the big ones like Wookieepedia, Lostpedia and the Doctor Who Wiki etc. I'd like to see them move to a different wiki provider and see the looks on Wikia's face. Haha! Although, Im not sure if I'd be happy with Wikisimpsons moving somewhere else. Im home here and even if they do mess me around with all this "change", I'll probably just settle back in with the new skin...I dunno. I just hope wikia dont go through with it. With all the negative feedback and comments they're getting, surely they'll change their mind! Effluvium 13:44, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
They're ignoring the negative feedback, no matter how much they say they aren't. I haven't seen any of the staff respond to the negative feedback. Maybe they know it is bad too? I actually wonder how many of the staff actually like it? But, there is the option to change to Monobook always. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 13:46, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I was thinking how many Staff users actually liked the look. Surely a few don't?! Well, I gave a ">:(" face on the feedback, and I know alot of have, so maybe, just maybe, they'll listen this time! Hang on, whats monobook? Sorry, I've seen you mention it several times (and other users) and I have no idea what it is! Effluvium 13:49, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
It is the official name for Wikipedia's old skin, the skin Uncyclopedia uses. It is also used on ShoutWiki and many other users prefer it to Monaco. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 13:53, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
Ah. Yes, I know now. Yeah, that could work. Well, anything is better than this Oasis rubbish! Effluvium 13:56, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
On the same topic, if none of us are happy with the new wikia skin and we don't want to stay with Wikia, we could always just go independant like The Infosphere? And just pay for a domain and ask people to donate money to us via. paypal or something similar. That would be a last resort though... Effluvium 16:28, September 26, 2010 (UTC)


Hi Solar, new user Bart103 has been making some changes on character categories which don't seem quite right to me. I reverted some of the changes and left him a note (not a warning) on his talk page, suggesting that he ask someone like yourself about the character categories before making any further category changes. He does not seem to be acting out of malice, which is why I left a note instead of a warning. He may show up on your talk page, another admin's, or even mine with some questions, so I figured I'd leave you a heads-up. Happy Friday! -- Mythigator 13:38, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for telling me. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 17:31, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
On further consideration, would you mind dropping him a line about using redirects? I've already told him a couple of times that using redirects is just fine (to type just [[Homer]] instead of [[Homer Simpson|Homer]], for example) but he seems to be insisting on doing it the long way around, making a bunch of unnecessary edits. I first dropped him a line about it on his talk page, then he replied on mine, and I added some more on his. He said he doesn't like redirects (which I sort of understand ... I've seen wikis that steered away from using them), but since our style is that they're perfectly acceptable, and in fact encouraged, then IMO he should respect the style (and avoid going to a bunch of unnecessary trouble). -- Mythigator 19:25, September 25, 2010 (UTC)


Hello, Solar, Goodbye. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DonaldoForever (talkcontribs) 16:52, 26 September 2010

Main Page - 5th Birthday Celebration[edit]

Hi. How long are you planning on having the main page decorated for its 5th birthday? I wouldn't leave it on for more than a few days... Effluvium 18:13, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

We'll probably remove it tomorrow. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 18:18, September 27, 2010 (UTC)


I posted this on your blog, just making sure you'll see it

Got a reply from ShoutWiki about the current situation:

"Hello there Wikisimpsons administrators,

Firstly I would like to thank you for contacting ShoutWiki and for considering us as an alternative to Wikia. We are aware that many people are rather upset about Wikia's plans to force yet another skin on their wikis, which causes extra work to the administrators of a wiki. A database dump would indeed be an easy way to import all your articles to ShoutWiki. We also have an extension that gives users the ability to import their user account to ShoutWiki; this process is very transparent and users practically won't even notice the difference as they can log in with their Wikia credentials. Attracting contributors to the wiki would be up to you, but if you can get most (maybe even all) of the admins to support a move then most of the community might follow. Do take into account though that when you do move, you will most likely lose your adminship on the Wikia wiki and Wikia will continue maintaining their version of your wiki. That has happened to other wikis that have moved off Wikia in the past. On the subject of blogs, ShoutWiki has no plans or intentions to add blogs to wikis. Though, userpages and user subpages work nicely for that purpose. As a matter of fact, some wikis used them in a way similar to blogs before Wikia introduced the blogs.

On ShoutWiki, you can choose the skin from many options, with the classical Monobook being the most popular skin. There are two themes available for Monobook: Dark and Pink. You can test these out on ShoutWiki Hub, for example (see http://www.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page?useskin=monobook&usetheme=dark and http://www.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page?useskin=monobook&usetheme=pink). Other available skins are the older Cologne Blue and the newer Modern skin. After we have upgraded our version of the MediaWiki software to 1.16, the Vector skin will also be available. In the future we will also have more skins available as premium (paid) features; including the ever-popular Monaco skin! If you're interested in these, feel free to check out our Premium Examples Wiki at http://premium.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Special:Preferences.

Thank you for your interest in ShoutWiki and we hope to see you editing in the future!"

Regards, -- --Jack Phoenix Customer Support Team, ShoutWiki http://www.shoutwiki.com"

--Smiley12 was here at 01:23, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Wow. That seems really good. Like the Vector and Monaco skins coming. That feature to allow users to move as well is good. Just, Wow. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 05:19, September 29, 2010 (UTC)


You should probably take a look at new user Deor. S/he seems to be making a bunch of useless edits, presumably for the sole purpose of getting badges. When you look at the history of articles where Deor has done edits, no changes at all show up in the wording, but it shows Deor adding a paragraph that already existed, which seems like a useless edit to me. Thanks. -- Mythigator 19:27, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Also, U.C.[edit]

The above U.C. has done nothing but vandalize, in spite of being warned. IMO a suspension is warranted, but that's an admin call. Thanks again. -- Mythigator 19:36, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

I would have noticed these sooner except I have been a bit busy ranting on the Wikia staff blog... :D ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 19:40, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
Certainly understandable under the circumstances. And apologies if I came off as a little testy .. I was on my lunch at work, figured I'd make a quick check on the Wiki, and got annoyed to see two vandals making a mess. -- Mythigator 19:43, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
No problem. I'm getting a bit bored of saying the same things anyway. :D ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 19:44, September 29, 2010 (UTC)


Hey, I created an Anti-Wikia Alliance. --Smiley12 was here at 00:40, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

WoWwiki is on the list!!! ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 05:18, September 30, 2010 (UTC)


ok i completey understand. i heard rumors saying wikia was forcing but now i understand.

Lewleworange 18:21, October 5, 2010 (UTC)


Aren't you apart of Ben 10 Fan Fiction wiki? User:Duncan Crook

I was just cleaning up some spam after someone. I don't edit there. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 05:08, October 6, 2010 (UTC)


Won't be on IRC at 10:00, I'm busy. Just letting you know. --Smiley12 was here at 19:44, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

OK. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 20:02, October 6, 2010 (UTC)


Are you leaving Wikia? Or do you dislike something? (I read your message on your profile) --Knightrez(Talk) 02:25, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

I will most probably make an occasional comment. I will otherwise tell others over IRC to say things. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 05:22, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Barts first a[edit]

Which is the episode where they are celebrating barts first a DarthRishda

At the very beginning of Homer vs. Dignity. -- Mythigator 00:52, October 8, 2010 (UTC)


While I'm not happy about Wikia's little skin infection, I'm concerned about the popularity of Wikisimpson and other wikis which will be moving/have moved already. How are we supposed to elevate our wiki back to the way it currently is now? Ldude893 12:21, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

It will take a lot of work and mentioning it on forums etc. We will try and get links on other Simpsons websites to get more activity. Once we move content over, the Google ranking will increase due to more pages and more references to The Simpsons and Wikisimpsons. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 13:11, October 8, 2010 (UTC)


Sarah removed our entire sitenotice. I reverted her edit then she got some staff member to come and remove the sitenotice again... hmm... --Smiley12 was here at 03:17, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

I wish you hadn't gotten yourself blocked, because I'm pretty sure a move would be a bad idea. Before, I was sold because I thought this wikia would have to start over. Instead, it will remain as it is. It also has the benefit of being older, being higher in google, being part of wikia and having more IP users. Sure, it would lose a lot of editors, but more would come. As much as I hate the new skin, this whole time I've been trying to urge users to stay calm, think things through and wait until the new skin is implemented. Instead, you got yourself blocked and we now have a no-win situation: Stay, lose some of our top editors and compete against them; or move to a new site and compete against wikia. And, make no mistake about it, if we move, I'm sure they'll do everything they can to bring in new users. -- Brian McClure 17:16, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well, you are right about one thing. Even if we get a wave of older users who have a lot of edits come and oppose a move, I will still be moving. We can increase our Google rank. It will take work and effort but I reckon we could be able to get on the first page for the search term Wikisimpsons. Of course Wikia will try to get new users. Someone will try to draw them to the other wiki. We have plans to change this wiki. Come on IRC to find out. I bet staff are patrolling my page and I don't want them to know. Solar Dragon 17:31, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
Don't you realize that the wikia people KNOW that you're going to try to sabotage the site on your way out and thus will be watching for anything suspicious? This is just like the conflict we had a few months back - you got yourself blocked and now editors are either with you or against you. I want nothing to do with any of this. One side there's a group of paid people who make money off people's volunteering who don't give a damn about us. On the other side is a group of volunteers who are over-reacting, would rather create drama than edit and are doing as much as wikia to scare away new editors. This whole idiotic situation has sapped what little will I had to contribute to this (or any new) site. -- Brian McClure 17:39, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


Hello, I'm german, so sorry for my might bad english. i have an important question. from which episode comes this monty burns-quote:

"Well, that's odd ... I've just robbed a man of his livelihood, and yet I feel strangely empty. Tell you what, Smithers - have him beaten to a pulp."

My sister have to know it for her universty-text about the simpsons. It would be so cool, if you could answer this question. Brawlgamer 17:03, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
I have practically left the wiki. Please only bother me with important notices here. try asking on the Forum:Index|Forums. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 19:29, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Adding Pages to Categorys[edit]

Hi, err how do you add pages to catagorys? I'm tryin' to get the badges for it? ToyStoryFan123 09:55, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

No.no.no I'm not just doing it for the badges, I'm doing it because I want to help the wiki fromToyStoryFan123 10:06, October 30, 2010 (UTC)


how many badges can you possibly have?



Why aren't you moving to some own server. Then you can customize as much as you want and there will be no ads.

I am thinking of moving the swedish wikisimpsons to some own servers.

Wikiboy96 14:58, November 4, 2010 (UTC)Wikiboy96

I am not sure on how to make our own server or how much it will cost either. That is why I am not. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:06, November 4, 2010 (UTC)


Agreed. ----- It's Magic - Kingcjc 10:58, November 6, 2010 (UTC)


Hi, when you move, are you going to continue using the mainpage as your homepage. Like the same design? If so, we need to start designing a new one here? Effluvium 11:31, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, yes, I intend to do that. I think TheHomer, who designed it, is moving with us too. So, it is only fair if we keep the design. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 13:00, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
Sure. I just wanted to check to see what you were doing. Thanks, Solar! Effluvium 13:01, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
Sure, sounds good, but lets not adopt a general "who did what keeps what" scheme, because if so, things would get silly. ----- It's Magic - Kingcjc 13:33, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, Okay Then.[edit]

Well okay then, if you guys don't want me here, you coulda just told me!

P.S. My account is now closed. Bye, I Hope you're happy. :( --MPS2001

Re:Simpsons Wiki[edit]

I Know ----- It's Magic - Kingcjc 20:12, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

ShoutWiki's dump[edit]

I believe the ShoutWiki database thingy is done. You should, like, totally go and edit it and stuff. ;P Manga Maniac 18:43, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Are you the IP? There is a problem with some of the images which I am waiting on for now. I will make the main page columns though. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 19:25, November 15, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm the IP who contacted your talk page. Btw, you need to rename the wiki Wikisimpsons somehow... Manga Maniac 19:31, November 15, 2010 (UTC)
We're on it. I am mass deleting the achievement badge name pages right now. Feel free to make an account. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 19:54, November 15, 2010 (UTC)