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=== [[Removalist]] ===
 
=== [[Removalist]] ===
Like the bear actor from "[[Call of the Simpsons]]", the Removalist plays too minor a role. [[User:Gazlene the Pork Girl|Gazlene the Pork Girl]] ([[User talk:Gazlene the Pork Girl|talk]]) 23:21, March 24, 2014 (EDT)
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Like the bear actor from "[[The Call of the Simpsons]]", the Removalist plays too minor a role. [[User:Gazlene the Pork Girl|Gazlene the Pork Girl]] ([[User talk:Gazlene the Pork Girl|talk]]) 23:21, March 24, 2014 (EDT)
 
:He a) had a speaking role and b) was voiced by a guest star so we keep his page. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 05:31, March 25, 2014 (EDT)
 
:He a) had a speaking role and b) was voiced by a guest star so we keep his page. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 05:31, March 25, 2014 (EDT)
 
::Keep. What Solar said. -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] ([[User talk:Mythigator|talk]]) 06:01, March 25, 2014 (EDT)
 
::Keep. What Solar said. -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] ([[User talk:Mythigator|talk]]) 06:01, March 25, 2014 (EDT)
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:What if we just had a page for random, un-notable merch like this? Just a table with an image, and what the product is or something? Because I agree that these items really have no reason to have their own, teensy-tiny pages that will never be added to. --[[User:Nick97|'''<font color=darkorange>Nick97</font>''']] <sup>([[User talk:Nick97|<font color=peach>'''talk'''</font>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Nick97|<font color=turquoise>'''contribs'''</font>]])</sup>  19:07, June 3, 2015 (EDT)
 
:What if we just had a page for random, un-notable merch like this? Just a table with an image, and what the product is or something? Because I agree that these items really have no reason to have their own, teensy-tiny pages that will never be added to. --[[User:Nick97|'''<font color=darkorange>Nick97</font>''']] <sup>([[User talk:Nick97|<font color=peach>'''talk'''</font>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Nick97|<font color=turquoise>'''contribs'''</font>]])</sup>  19:07, June 3, 2015 (EDT)
 
::I agree with Nick97. We should create a page for "random, un-notable merch like this". It's a great idea. / [[User:Loco87|'''<font color=EBAA14><font face="Agency FB"><font size="4">Loco</font></font></font><font color=00B2F0><font face="Agency FB"><font size="4">87</font></font></font>''']] <sup>([[User talk:Loco87|<font color=70E38C><font face="Courier New">'''TALK'''</font></font>]] / [[Special:Contributions/Loco87|<font color=FFB233><font face="Century Gothic">Contribs</font></font>]])</sup> 19:24, June 3, 2015 (EDT)
 
::I agree with Nick97. We should create a page for "random, un-notable merch like this". It's a great idea. / [[User:Loco87|'''<font color=EBAA14><font face="Agency FB"><font size="4">Loco</font></font></font><font color=00B2F0><font face="Agency FB"><font size="4">87</font></font></font>''']] <sup>([[User talk:Loco87|<font color=70E38C><font face="Courier New">'''TALK'''</font></font>]] / [[Special:Contributions/Loco87|<font color=FFB233><font face="Century Gothic">Contribs</font></font>]])</sup> 19:24, June 3, 2015 (EDT)
:::'''Question''' where do we draw the line on notability of merch pages? [[Template:Miscellaneous merchandise|There are many other pages similar to this.]] —[[User:Frederick|<big><font color="blue">Fred</font></big>]] (<small>[[User talk:Frederick|<font color="grey">Talk</font>]]</small> '''•''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Frederick|<font color="red">Contribs.</font>]]</small>) 03:28, June 4, 2015 (EDT)
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:::'''Question''' where do we draw the line on notability of merch pages? There are many other pages similar to this. —[[User:Frederick|<big><font color="blue">Fred</font></big>]] (<small>[[User talk:Frederick|<font color="grey">Talk</font>]]</small> '''•''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Frederick|<font color="red">Contribs.</font>]]</small>) 03:28, June 4, 2015 (EDT)
 
::::There's the million-dollar question, haha. What if we just put all the stubs together on such a page, and if any one of them happens to somehow gain enough information to actually warrant it's own page then we could take it off? Merchandise is such a hard thing to write articles for because almost all of them will be stubs, but I feel like a table would be a great way to categorize it all on a single page. Heck, if it starts getting too big, we could always break it off into separate tables based on type of merchandise (toys, stationary, whatever) --[[User:Nick97|'''<font color=darkorange>Nick97</font>''']] <sup>([[User talk:Nick97|<font color=peach>'''talk'''</font>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Nick97|<font color=turquoise>'''contribs'''</font>]])</sup>  11:14, June 4, 2015 (EDT)
 
::::There's the million-dollar question, haha. What if we just put all the stubs together on such a page, and if any one of them happens to somehow gain enough information to actually warrant it's own page then we could take it off? Merchandise is such a hard thing to write articles for because almost all of them will be stubs, but I feel like a table would be a great way to categorize it all on a single page. Heck, if it starts getting too big, we could always break it off into separate tables based on type of merchandise (toys, stationary, whatever) --[[User:Nick97|'''<font color=darkorange>Nick97</font>''']] <sup>([[User talk:Nick97|<font color=peach>'''talk'''</font>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Nick97|<font color=turquoise>'''contribs'''</font>]])</sup>  11:14, June 4, 2015 (EDT)
  
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**Likewise. --[[User:Nick97|'''<font color=darkorange>Nick97</font>''']] <sup>([[User talk:Nick97|<font color=peach>'''talk'''</font>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Nick97|<font color=turquoise>'''contribs'''</font>]])</sup>  20:21, October 12, 2015 (EDT)
 
**Likewise. --[[User:Nick97|'''<font color=darkorange>Nick97</font>''']] <sup>([[User talk:Nick97|<font color=peach>'''talk'''</font>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Nick97|<font color=turquoise>'''contribs'''</font>]])</sup>  20:21, October 12, 2015 (EDT)
  
=== [[Lisa Comics In The UK]] ===
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=== Lisa Comics In The UK ===
 
No actual Lisa Comics in the UK. The story was in Simpsons Comics. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 09:45, October 11, 2015 (EDT)
 
No actual Lisa Comics in the UK. The story was in Simpsons Comics. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 09:45, October 11, 2015 (EDT)
 
*Agree. --[[User:Nick97|'''<font color=darkorange>Nick97</font>''']] <sup>([[User talk:Nick97|<font color=peach>'''talk'''</font>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Nick97|<font color=turquoise>'''contribs'''</font>]])</sup>  20:21, October 12, 2015 (EDT)
 
*Agree. --[[User:Nick97|'''<font color=darkorange>Nick97</font>''']] <sup>([[User talk:Nick97|<font color=peach>'''talk'''</font>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Nick97|<font color=turquoise>'''contribs'''</font>]])</sup>  20:21, October 12, 2015 (EDT)
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***** I own the comic, I can upload an image of it when I get back home [[User:Dylan|<b><span style="color:purple">Dylan</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Dylan|Talk]]</sup> 07:23, October 14, 2015 (EDT)
 
***** I own the comic, I can upload an image of it when I get back home [[User:Dylan|<b><span style="color:purple">Dylan</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Dylan|Talk]]</sup> 07:23, October 14, 2015 (EDT)
 
******Okay. Make sure the barcode is clear, or it clearly says it's the UK version somewhere in the image then. Just want to make fully sure. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 07:27, October 14, 2015 (EDT)
 
******Okay. Make sure the barcode is clear, or it clearly says it's the UK version somewhere in the image then. Just want to make fully sure. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 07:27, October 14, 2015 (EDT)
******* here [[:File:Simpsons lisa comic £1.25.jpg|200px]] it appears to be £1.25 [[User:Dylan|<b><span style="color:purple">Dylan</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Dylan|Talk]]</sup> 09:58, October 14, 2015 (EDT)
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******* here File:Simpsons lisa comic £1.25.jpg it appears to be £1.25 [[User:Dylan|<b><span style="color:purple">Dylan</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Dylan|Talk]]</sup> 09:58, October 14, 2015 (EDT)
 
********Okay, that's fine by me then. The page will stay then. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 10:26, October 14, 2015 (EDT)
 
********Okay, that's fine by me then. The page will stay then. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 10:26, October 14, 2015 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 08:48, April 5, 2021

Deletion discussions archive.

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Dotty and Sheila[edit]

Co-workers of Patty and Selma. Not seen; only mentioned once in passing. -- Mythigator 11:04, 10 December 2012 (EST)

Keeping, mentioned several times./AleWi 12:52, 11 December 2012 (EST)
Delete, they weren't mentioned enough or in enough detail to be kept. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 15:55, 11 December 2012 (EST)
They are mentioned in one conversation in one episode. DELETE! -- Mythigator 22:23, 11 December 2012 (EST)
Delete. They have to be mentioned in several different episodes, not just a couple of times in one episode. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 09:58, 12 December 2012 (EST)

Rumpus room[edit]

The other room pages were all merged into the Evergreen Terrace page, so this one should be no exception. It isn't even a major room in the house. And there's really nothing you could add to the history section other than generic statements like "[character] was once seen doing [activity] in the rumpus room." --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 22:28, 13 December 2012 (EST)

Agreed. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 03:12, 14 December 2012 (EST)
Merge.--Cook879 11:09, 16 December 2012 (EST)
Merge./AleWi 13:11, 18 December 2012 (EST)

Convenience store[edit]

Minor location, not the actual name, outside not seen. etc. The Solar Dragon 10:39, 15 December 2012 (EST)

Is it possible that this store is actually the Springfield Grocery Store? -- Mythigator 04:38, 16 December 2012 (EST)
It is possible and likely. Therefore there is even more reason for this page to be deleted. The Solar Dragon 04:51, 16 December 2012 (EST)
Keep, but change the name: There are a lot of differences between the store and the grocery store: for example, the store has video games, while a grocery store wouldn't, the layout of the store is different to the grocery store (for example, the frozen section in the store is smaller than the frozen section in the grocery store), and the store has products that you normally wouldn't buy in a grocery store. So, no, I don't think the store is actually the grocery store. (And the outside is in fact seen right at the end of the commercial) ~ Phinbart (talkcontribs) 05:07, 16 December 2012 (EST)
The outside is barely seen, advert locations differ from their normal locations in the show in some ways, this is an old advert where designs still hadn't been fully decided, there are video games in stores in America (in Las Vegas, you can even get slot machines in grocery stores). DELETE. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 06:34, 16 December 2012 (EST)
DELETE! --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 08:25, 16 December 2012 (EST)
Good point and good observations, Phin, but it wouldn't be at all unusual for a grocery store to make changes in its layout or in what sort of products it stocks. Also, in the course of trying to stay competetive with big outfits like Wal-Mart, grocery stores have had an increasing tendency towards stocking a little bit of everything. It seems to me that this article's information should be incorporated into Springfield Grocery Store and the article itself can be deleted. -- Mythigator 09:27, 16 December 2012 (EST)
Merge.--Cook879 11:09, 16 December 2012 (EST)
Delete/Merge. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 01:34, 17 December 2012 (EST)
Merge./AleWi 13:11, 18 December 2012 (EST)

Popcorn[edit]

Generic foodstuffs. ☆The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.)☆ 13:10, 18 December 2012 (EST)

Delete./AleWi 13:11, 18 December 2012 (EST)

Paris Texan's chihuahua[edit]

Unnamed, not that notable. ☆The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.)☆ 05:47, 17 January 2013 (EST)

Man, I was an idiot. :P This too, Paris Texan's chihuahua's chihuahua. --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 05:58, 17 January 2013 (EST)
Agree. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 10:09, 17 January 2013 (EST)

Paris Texan's chihuahua's chihuahua[edit]

Unnamed, not notable at all. I was a fool creating all of these articles! --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 06:01, 17 January 2013 (EST)

Agreed. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 06:10, 17 January 2013 (EST)
Agree. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 10:09, 17 January 2013 (EST)

Federal inspector[edit]

Unnamed, non-speaking. One of the articles I idiotically created. :P --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 09:43, 19 January 2013 (EST)

Agreed. The Solar Dragon 17:21, 19 January 2013 (EST)
Agreed. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 01:57, 20 January 2013 (EST)

Roger's employer[edit]

Unnamed, non-speaking character (an article which I made...) The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 17:19, 19 January 2013 (EST)

Delete, I guess. I imagine he seemed more notable at the time. :P --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 01:57, 20 January 2013 (EST)
Delete. I also imagined him to be more notable... Oh, well. --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 02:06, 21 January 2013 (EST)

Welcome to the Jungle[edit]

Background song only. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 17:18, 20 January 2013 (EST)

Yes, delete, against the notability policy. --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 02:05, 21 January 2013 (EST)

The Guy Who Married Brooke Shields[edit]

Was going to move to Chris Henchy, the guy it's referencing, but then I thought it really should just be deleted.--Cook879 09:40, 19 January 2013 (EST)

I guess... --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 09:41, 19 January 2013 (EST)
Keep. /AleWi 10:49, 19 January 2013 (EST)
Keep. At this name. This isn't just a conjectural name, it's the name that is given to us by the show. Solar Dragon (Talk Contribs.) 17:21, 19 January 2013 (EST)
Keep, although you could redirect Chris Henchy to here I would think. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 01:57, 20 January 2013 (EST)
He didn't speak and is unnamed (even though is if Chris Henchy) so... delete. --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 02:04, 21 January 2013 (EST)
But he is named. The show called him "The Guy Who Married Brooke Shields" which means it's not a conjectural title. It's his actual name according to the show. The Solar Dragon 02:29, 21 January 2013 (EST)
Oh, hardly. They are refering to the guy who married Brooke Shields... --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 05:46, 23 January 2013 (EST)
The show itself called him that. It's exactly the same as Carl's dad, who's called "Carl's dad" by the show. The show named the character that so it isn't conjecture. I'm fine with keeping it, strangely. The Solar Dragon 16:25, 25 January 2013 (EST)
Eh. I guess, keep. --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 20:04, 25 January 2013 (EST)
Besides, we have other pages for real-world characters or people who haven't talked and whose names haven't actually been stated on the show. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 19:25, 28 January 2013 (EST)

Flanders' dog[edit]

Was this dog even mentioned? The doggy door was but I'm not sure if the dog actually was. And even if the dog was mentioned, how has it been confirmed deceased? Delete. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 17:46, 25 January 2013 (EST)

Delete. --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 20:04, 25 January 2013 (EST)
Delete. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 19:25, 28 January 2013 (EST)

Unnamed pet gerbil[edit]

Unnamed, not seen and not very notable. ☆The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.)☆ 17:48, 25 January 2013 (EST)

Delete. --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 20:04, 25 January 2013 (EST)
Delete. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 19:25, 28 January 2013 (EST)

Rat Poison[edit]

Generic item. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 17:49, 25 January 2013 (EST)

I created this, delete. :P --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 20:04, 25 January 2013 (EST)
Delete. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 19:25, 28 January 2013 (EST)

Cat Food[edit]

What the heck? Generic brand. Delete! --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 20:20, 25 January 2013 (EST)

Technically it's not generic, since it's cat food made from cats. I'm neutral on this one. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 19:25, 28 January 2013 (EST)

European female Moe[edit]

Unnamed, non-speaking character. Solar Dragon (Talk Contribs.) 17:28, 28 January 2013 (EST)

K. -- WebkinzManiaTalkContributionsEditcount 21:15, 28 January 2013 (EST)
Delete. --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 21:57, 2 February 2013 (EST)
Keep, although it's a non-speaking character, it has a characteristic that distinguish it from others. --Notfut 16:28, 3 February 2013 (EST)Notfut
It is against the notability policy though. SolarDragonName.png (Talk - Contribs.) 15:05, 4 February 2013 (EST)
But I only came here to read about European female Moe! Delete. Cjcsdonut.png -- cjc 16:07, 4 February 2013 (EST)
I would say that, although non-speaking and non-named, she does seem an article-worthy character because it was the focus of that particular gag.--Cook879 16:13, 4 February 2013 (EST)
Keep, we must not delete every article that is against the notability policy, some articles is funny and can give us more visitors. /AleWi 16:15, 4 February 2013 (EST)
If we keep this article, it would mean we would have to modify the notability policy yet again to something like: "Unnamed non-speaking characters can have articles if the person who creates the article says so." or something stupid like that. It is against the policy. I have something about her in my Doppelgangers article in my userspace so it won't all go to waste. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:22, 4 February 2013 (EST)
I find the notability policy to hard, to many good article's being deleted, many is article-worthy like Cook says. /AleWi 16:27, 4 February 2013 (EST)
No, no good articles are being deleted. A good article is more than one line long. Pretty much all of the articles I have deleted due to being against the policy are only one line long and are just a waste of time and space. No one will read them or search for them. This article will be in my Doppelgangers article which I will move to the mainspace soon. That is the only place it needs to be mentioned. Solar Dragon (Talk Contribs.) 16:31, 4 February 2013 (EST)
I was originally neutral on this one, but with Solar's doppelganger article already containing the pertinent information, I'm leaning more towards delete. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 23:46, 4 February 2013 (EST)

Schroeder-like boy[edit]

Unnamed, non-speaking character. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 14:35, 4 February 2013 (EST)

Keep, although it's a non-speaking character, it has a characteristic that distinguish it from others! --Notfut 14:50, 4 February 2013 (EST)Notfut
But it's against our notability policy. Therefore policy dictates that it should be deleted. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 15:05, 4 February 2013 (EST)
It looks so much like Schroeder, you may as well call him that. :P Delete, I guess, though you could keep the image for the episode's references tab or something. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 23:46, 4 February 2013 (EST)

I agree that the article should be deleted. However, I suspect that there have been enough Peanuts references on the show to justify a Peanuts references article. If that is indeed the case, then the Schroeder look-a-like should definitely be included in it. -- Mythigator 13:23, 16 February 2013 (EST)

Just as a note for the record, a Peanuts references article has now been created and it includes the boy that resembles Schroeder. -- Mythigator 00:59, 19 February 2013 (EST)

Guy Fawkes[edit]

Delete tag was placed on the page because he looks more like Shakespeare. On further inspection, I agree with this. The skull is also probably a reference to Shakespeare. ☆The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.)☆ 06:07, 16 February 2013 (EST)

Agree. Out of curiosity, though, why did you put it as Guy Fawkes? --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 11:59, 16 February 2013 (EST)
Frederick listed him as that in the Appearances page. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 12:22, 16 February 2013 (EST)

It's Shakespeare for sure ...

  1. They've got a literary theme going with the characters making cameos ... Snape, Sherlock and Winston Churchill (who was an accomplished author in addition to serving as Prime Minister). Shakespeare fits right in with that theme, where Fawkes doesn't.
  2. The skull is a reference to the "Alas, poor Yorick" scene from Hamlet, which is one of the best-known (but also, alas, most often misquoted) scenes from Shakespeare's plays.
  3. The plotline of Love Actually (which Love, Indubitably parodies) comes off like one of Shakespeare's romantic comedies, which have the recurring motif of everyone getting paired off in the end. (If they were getting blown up, you could make a case for the man being Fawkes. :-P)

Plus, as Solar said, the man looks a lot more like Shakespeare than he does Fawkes. The Fawkes article should be deleted and its information incorporated (where appropriate) into the William Shakespeare article. -- Mythigator 13:18, 16 February 2013 (EST)


Eh... Oops. Sorry, I can't really tell the difference in cartoon form. I got Winston Churchill and Alfred Hitchcock mixed up as well, because I am bloody hopeless. Also, thank you to Mythigator for knowing a lot of references. :D --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 16:50, 16 February 2013 (EST)

"Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington" essays[edit]

Notability Do these really need to have their own articles, and do they meet the notability standards? It seems to me that we could include the essays on the episode's Quotes page, which needs a makeover anyway. -- Mythigator 13:56, 17 May 2013 (EDT)

Yeah, I don't think these really need their own articles. They would be perfectly fine being on the quotes page. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 18:34, 17 May 2013 (EDT)
I did a little more thinking about it, and I'm going to poke a hole in my own argument: I didn't get the same "not notable enough" vibe from Lisa's poem Meditations on Turning Eight, and I was trying to figure out why. Then I realized that it was because the poem was coming off like a song, and songs do meet our notability guidelines even if they're one-off items delivered in a practically throwaway fashion. By that reasoning, the essay articles SHOULD stay, since we have articles for songs that got a lot less air time than the essays. -- Mythigator 19:15, 17 May 2013 (EDT)
What if we just collected them all into one article? --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 00:49, 18 May 2013 (EDT)

Bear actor[edit]

Unnamed, non-speaking character. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 17:27, 6 June 2013 (EDT)

I just replace an image, but I guess I could agree with you here. Gazlene the Pork Girl 17:29, 6 June 2013 (EDT)
Agree --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 18:24, 6 June 2013 (EDT)

Cast and crew[edit]

Page is mainly outdated and incomplete. It would take forever to fully complete this page and it would be better redirected to the category. The Solar Dragon 13:56, 23 June 2013 (EDT)

Delete I agree. --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 21:38, 23 June 2013 (EDT)
Agreed. Even if you did fully complete it, the page would still be little more than a list. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 00:08, 24 June 2013 (EDT)
  • Redirect to the category of the same name. Cjcsdonut.png -- CJC 07:00, 7 July 2013 (EDT)

Yustin Beaver[edit]

This character (and most of the other wrestlers in the ¡Bart Speaks Spanish! comic story) doesn't actually appear, doesn't have any lines, and is only even mentioned in passing, i.e., name seen on a marquee sign. The pun on Justin Bieber is certainly worth mentioning on the References tab, but there's not enough information about this character to warrant creating an article. -- Mythigator 04:02, 7 July 2013 (EDT)

  • Delete - sounds like it goes against notability anyway. Cjcsdonut.png -- CJC 07:03, 7 July 2013 (EDT)
    • Delete - what CJC said. Homer to the Max 09:18, 7 July 2013 (EDT)
      • Agree. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 13:06, 7 July 2013 (EDT)
        • It's been five days with no dissenting opinions, so I'll go ahead and do the deletion. -- Mythigator 16:15, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

Allen Lanier[edit]

I hate deleting stuff, but I really think this is a stretch too far. Mr Lanier's article states that he "played the closing credits" of "The Parent Rap". But he didn't. He was a member of Blue Öyster Cult, and their song "Don't Fear the Reaper" was played over the end credits. But this was archive audio and neither he, nor the rest of the band, had any actual involvement in the episode. Notability policy states "All credited people should get an article," "Individual band members, even if they are not credited, should get an article," and "Uncredited crew members can get an article only if they are confirmed by a reliable source to have taken part in the episode." I don't believe Mr Lanier, or any other similar people who have articles classifying them as "guest stars" when they never produced anything for the show, and were not credited, meet any of these three criteria. Gran2 (talk) 11:17, October 2, 2013 (EDT)

Agreed where Mr. Lanier is concerned, but I think the Blue Oyster Cult article should stay. -- Mythigator (talk) 09:41, October 17, 2013 (EDT)
Agreed. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 14:32, October 17, 2013 (EDT)

Episodes left at an unusual point[edit]

Reason for deletion: Unnecessary.

86.177.77.68 00:47, October 17, 2013 (EDT)

Disagree. This is good enough for a list in my eyes. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 03:18, October 17, 2013 (EDT)
Disagree. This is an interesting list, although we do need to use some discretion about adding things to it. -- Mythigator (talk) 09:37, October 17, 2013 (EDT)
Disagree, for reasons stated above. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 14:32, October 17, 2013 (EDT)
Disagree, but rename. You see, when it comes down to it, "unusual" is based on one's opinion. --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 19:56, October 26, 2013 (EDT)
^Agreeing with this. "Episodes with unresolved endings"? Something like that would do. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 17:08, October 28, 2013 (EDT)

Episodes featuring most or all of the states[edit]

Reason for deletion: Too short and unnecessary.

86.177.77.68 00:47, October 17, 2013 (EDT)

Agreed. I think this is pointless. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 03:18, October 17, 2013 (EDT)
Agreed. I don't see the point of this one, either. -- Mythigator (talk) 09:37, October 17, 2013 (EDT)
Agreed. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 14:32, October 17, 2013 (EDT)
Agreed. Stupid article that Randomno created. --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 20:09, October 26, 2013 (EDT)

List of episodes that aired outside of the normal season run[edit]

Reason for deletion: Too short and unnecessary.

86.177.77.68 00:47, October 17, 2013 (EDT)

Disagree. This is good enough for a list in my eyes. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 03:18, October 17, 2013 (EDT)
Disagree. This is noteworthy, and the explanations of the circumstances behind the outside-the-norm airdates provide some nice insights into the show's history. -- Mythigator (talk) 09:37, October 17, 2013 (EDT)
Disagreed. The fact it's too short isn't really an issue. It's not like we can just make it longer. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 14:32, October 17, 2013 (EDT)
Disagree. A fine list. --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 20:09, October 26, 2013 (EDT)

Watchthesimpsonsonline.net[edit]

Reason for deletion: Not notable, not one of our affiliates, site has shut down anyway. ~ The ghosts are here... polterbart is my name... (talkcontribs) 15:17, October 26, 2013 (EDT)

Disagree. It was a fairly famous Simpsons site. It just needs an infobox and a bit of a cleanup, as well as a mention about the controversy etc. Solar Dragon (Talk Contribs.) 18:50, October 26, 2013 (EDT)
Disagree. Noted Simpsons website, even if it has shutdown, it still should remain an article. --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 20:02, October 26, 2013 (EDT)
Disagree. It's part of the history of the fandom. At the very least, leaving the article on the wiki might provide answers / closure to people wondering "What the hell happened to wtso.net?" -- Mythigator (talk) 15:10, October 28, 2013 (EDT)

Happy First "A"[edit]

Reason for deletion: Too short and unnecessary. A two-line song parody warrants a mention on the References tab of the episode it appears in ("Homer vs. Dignity"), but its own article? I don't think so. -- Mythigator (talk) 09:43, October 28, 2013 (EDT)

Agreed. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 12:42, November 14, 2013 (EST)

Bart's blue winter ushanka[edit]

It's not notable. The Lucky red hat is different as it is named that by Bart and it obviously means something to him. This is just a winter hat. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 06:09, November 16, 2013 (EST)

Agreed. --Fred (Talk Contribs. Editcount) 06:57, November 16, 2013 (EST)
Agreed. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 11:59, November 16, 2013 (EST)

Buttercup (The Powerpuff Girls)[edit]

Not mentioned by name and that hairstyle is black and spiky - not the same hairstyle. It's only a reference to the character, not article worthy. The Solar Dragon 04:51, April 13, 2014 (EDT)

Yep. -- Webkinz ManiaTalkContributionsEditcount 10:35, April 13, 2014 (EDT)
Better to move to "Lady Penelope Ariel Ponyweather", the name Lisa used for her character as a fictional character./AleWi (talk) 10:45, April 13, 2014 (EDT)
I moved the article to "Lady Penelope Ariel Ponyweather". --BTony70099 (talk) 15:52, April 13, 2014 (EDT)

Cool Kid Magazine[edit]

Mentioned magazine, minor. The Solar Dragon 17:08, February 28, 2014 (EST)

Agree. -- Mythigator (talk) 22:48, March 22, 2014 (EDT)
Agree. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 00:24, March 23, 2014 (EDT)
Lisa won a contest from that magazine./AleWi (talk) 04:47, March 23, 2014 (EDT)
Ditto. -- Webkinz ManiaTalkContributionsEditcount 08:02, March 25, 2014 (EDT)

Cute Guy Magazine[edit]

Mentioned magazine, minor. The Solar Dragon 17:08, February 28, 2014 (EST)

Agree. -- Mythigator (talk) 22:48, March 22, 2014 (EDT)
Agree. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 00:24, March 23, 2014 (EDT)
Lisa won a contest from that magazine./AleWi (talk) 04:47, March 23, 2014 (EDT)
Ditto. -- Webkinz ManiaTalkContributionsEditcount 08:02, March 25, 2014 (EDT)

Albanian Airplane[edit]

Unimportant, not actually named, minor. The Solar Dragon 17:39, March 4, 2014 (EST)

I remember putting in some work spiffing up this article, but I agree with Solar's reasoning for deleting it. -- Mythigator (talk) 22:48, March 22, 2014 (EDT)
Agree. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 00:24, March 23, 2014 (EDT)
Delete, an unimportant airplane./AleWi (talk) 04:47, March 23, 2014 (EDT)
The Simpsons Comics are not well known, so a mention of something in just one story does not show its notability. Since this is the case, I believe all the pages (except if it has a notable role) on this article should be removed and incorporated into a list. In simple terms, yes. Same goes for the other articles Solar listed. Gazlene the Pork Girl (talk) 23:25, March 24, 2014 (EDT)
I agree with Gazlene, though if we make a page listing all the airplanes, then we can just merge it there or something. Keep for now. -- Webkinz ManiaTalkContributionsEditcount 08:02, March 25, 2014 (EDT)

Removalist[edit]

Like the bear actor from "The Call of the Simpsons", the Removalist plays too minor a role. Gazlene the Pork Girl (talk) 23:21, March 24, 2014 (EDT)

He a) had a speaking role and b) was voiced by a guest star so we keep his page. The Solar Dragon 05:31, March 25, 2014 (EDT)
Keep. What Solar said. -- Mythigator (talk) 06:01, March 25, 2014 (EDT)
Keep. -- Webkinz ManiaTalkContributionsEditcount 08:02, March 25, 2014 (EDT)
Keep. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 11:03, March 25, 2014 (EDT)
Keep,a guest star./AleWi (talk) 10:46, April 13, 2014 (EDT)

Octopus[edit]

Unnamed, non-speaking, unnotable. The Solar Dragon 07:23, May 14, 2014 (EDT)

Agree. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 14:42, May 14, 2014 (EDT)
Keep. --User:Notfut (Talk 01:32, May 15, 2014 (EDT)
@Notfut, reasons for keeping? The Solar Dragon 07:53, May 15, 2014 (EDT)

Template:None[edit]

It is probably a test. --2F13 (talk) 14:13, August 23, 2014 (EDT)

Already deleted it. The Solar Dragon 14:15, August 23, 2014 (EDT)

Template:Www[edit]

It is useless, it is unused, it is undocumented, it seems to be a test. -- 2F13 (talk) 01:58, August 28, 2014 (EDT)

List of episodes with short or long titles[edit]

Is this really needed? Also, what would be the standards for "long" and "short"? With no standards, the article is just a bunch of fuzzy-logic judgement calls about the relative length (or brevity) of the episodes' titles. -- Mythigator (talk) 00:10, August 31, 2014 (EDT)

Unnecessary. --2F13 (talk) 01:26, August 31, 2014 (EDT)
Agreed, it should be deleted. The Solar Dragon 04:22, August 31, 2014 (EDT)
If you really think so... | SimpsonsFR.pngSimpsonsFA.pngSimpsonsFN.pngSimpsonsFD.pngSimpsonsFO.pngSimpsonsFM.pngSimpsonsFN.pngSimpsonsFO.png | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 04:53, August 31, 2014 (EDT)
Not needed./AleWi (talk) 12:25, September 1, 2014 (EDT)
Agreed. Delete it./Notfut (talk) 14:46, September 1, 2014 (EDT)
Agreed. It is an unneeded page. / Loco87 (TALK / Contribs) 07:09, September 2, 2014 (EDT)

Bob Papenbrook[edit]

Papenbrook was, years ago, listed on IMDb as voicing a garbageman in City of New York vs Homer, despite never being credited or mentioned anywhere else. It felt strange then, especially as I don't remember a garbageman ever saying anything in the episode, but he got a page. Anyway, the credit is no longer on his IMDb, so there is now absolutely no evidence anywhere to support the claim he appeared on the show. Ergo, I think this page should be deleted. Gran2 (talk) 15:29, September 4, 2014 (EDT)

If that is the case then yeah, delete the page. The Solar Dragon 15:34, September 4, 2014 (EDT)

Barney & Friends[edit]

Only three references on the page at the moment and I don't think there's any more. 3 references is too few for a references article. The Solar Dragon 17:20, September 16, 2014 (EDT)

Not sure, depends how many other references there are. | SimpsonsFR.pngSimpsonsFA.pngSimpsonsFN.pngSimpsonsFD.pngSimpsonsFO.pngSimpsonsFM.pngSimpsonsFN.pngSimpsonsFO.png | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 17:43, September 16, 2014 (EDT)
I know... But I don't think there's any more. If I'm proved otherwise, I'll remove the template. The Solar Dragon 17:56, September 16, 2014 (EDT)
Yeah, until it gets 5 references, it should be on a sandbox page instead of out in the mainspace. Is anyone willing to take "custody" of it while more references are tracked down? -- Mythigator (talk) 23:01, September 16, 2014 (EDT)
Since I brought up the idea, I'll step up. I have copied the page to my sandbox so it can be populated with more references and then returned to the mainspace when it gets at least five. -- Mythigator (talk) 05:57, September 19, 2014 (EDT)
I belatedly noticed that Randomno already copied it to his sandbox. I'll hang onto my sandbox copy for a while anyway. If two of us are working on it, it's got a better chance to get five references, and the copies can always be harmonized later if need be. -- Mythigator (talk) 06:02, September 19, 2014 (EDT)

Coney Island[edit]

Not enough information to justify an article. -- Mythigator (talk) 15:00, September 25, 2014 (EDT)

Agreed. The Solar Dragon 18:21, October 1, 2014 (EDT)

Omni-Pay, Tri-City and Insta-Threat[edit]

All three are minor things, only mentioned in dialogue, and not a lot of information was given about them. The Solar Dragon 18:21, October 1, 2014 (EDT)

  • Agreed times three. -- Mythigator (talk) 21:56, October 19, 2014 (EDT)

List of invisibility[edit]

Not ready for prime time. It shouldn't be in the mainspace until it is ready. The article has formatting issues, and how relevant is the invisibility angle anyway? The article needs more information to justify its existence. -- Mythigator (talk) 22:02, October 19, 2014 (EDT)

I just added the delete template to the page and came here to suggest just this. DELETE! The Solar Dragon 14:58, October 20, 2014 (EDT)
You saying that the article is against notability policy? I hope Solar's answer. --Barthony70099 Eat my shorts! Ay Caramba! 15:02, October 20, 2014 (EDT)
Whilst it's not actually in the notability policy, I don't think this happens frequently enough in the series, nor is it a running gag, nor are people really bothered about invisibility in the show. Therefore, it's unnotable to me and not worth a space on the wiki. The Solar Dragon 15:11, October 20, 2014 (EDT)
Ok Solar you win. The article will be moved as user subpage unless. --Barthony70099 Eat my shorts! Ay Caramba! 15:20, October 20, 2014 (EDT)

All unnamed non-speaking characters (except frequently occurring characters)[edit]

Including: Air Springfield flight attendant (3), Air Springfield flight attendant (4), Springfield Airport security guard (4), Springfield Airport security guard (5), Alaska Nebraska's bodyguard (1), Alaska Nebraska's bodyguard (2), Homeless man, Security guard (Treehouse of Horror XX)... be on the lookout! --Fred (Talk Contribs.) 02:35, October 25, 2014 (EDT)
Agreed. Also, am I the only one who thinks that last one looks a little like Skinner with spikier hair? :P --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 21:27, October 25, 2014 (EDT)
I also see how that last one looks like Skinner. And yeah these pages are pointless. None of them are recurring. It would be different if they were recurring, unnamed characters. --Mcdude man (talk) 14:47, December 17, 2014 (EST)
Are they really non-speaking? Some of them say "Unknown" under voice, implying they did speak. The Solar Dragon 07:08, December 18, 2014 (EST)

The 100 Greatest Cartoons[edit]

Not really related to The Simpsons, except the fact it won it. The Solar Dragon 13:59, December 17, 2014 (EST)

Agree. -- Mythigator (talk) 21:33, December 28, 2014 (EST)

Stoner Simpson[edit]

Unofficial merchandise. I don't think we should have unofficial merchandise here. The Solar Dragon 07:08, December 18, 2014 (EST)

Agree. -- Mythigator (talk) 21:33, December 28, 2014 (EST)

The Christmas That Almost Wasn't Then Was[edit]

It's debatable whether this song deserves its own article. And even if it does, it needs a better title. -- Mythigator (talk) 21:33, December 28, 2014 (EST)

Keep, the song and title is from Simpsons World./AleWi (talk) 05:32, December 29, 2014 (EST)

Pa (How Munched Is That Birdie in the Window?)[edit]

Unnamed (only referred to as "Pa"), unseen (was only a grave) and non-speaking. The Solar Dragon 03:44, January 9, 2015 (EST)

Oatmeal Enthusiast[edit]

Image didn't come from the movie to my knowledge so it never appeared in the movie. The info in the article seems false to me. Not sure what exactly it's from but for now, it's up for deletion. The Solar Dragon 10:57, January 14, 2015 (EST)

Buttercup[edit]

Mentioned, didn't appear. May not even be proper name as it was named by Lisa. The Solar Dragon 14:54, February 11, 2015 (EST)

Agree. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 10:31, February 27, 2015 (EST)
Delete. —Fred (Talk Contribs.) 21:20, February 27, 2015 (EST)

Bastardo's father[edit]

Mentioned only, no details known other than he's a soldier. The Solar Dragon 05:44, February 27, 2015 (EST)

Agree. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 10:31, February 27, 2015 (EST)
Delete. —Fred (Talk Contribs.) 21:20, February 27, 2015 (EST)
Delete it. / Loco87 (TALK / Contribs) 09:31, February 28, 2015 (EST)

F-Secure Internet Security 2008/The Simpsons Movie[edit]

Completely unnotable. DVDs get bundled with random crap all the time. This shouldn't have an article. The Solar Dragon 08:51, May 10, 2015 (EDT)

Delete. —Fred (Talk Contribs.) 03:28, June 4, 2015 (EDT)

The Simpsons School Kit[edit]

Is this really notable? The Solar Dragon 07:11, May 26, 2015 (EDT)

What if we just had a page for random, un-notable merch like this? Just a table with an image, and what the product is or something? Because I agree that these items really have no reason to have their own, teensy-tiny pages that will never be added to. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 19:07, June 3, 2015 (EDT)
I agree with Nick97. We should create a page for "random, un-notable merch like this". It's a great idea. / Loco87 (TALK / Contribs) 19:24, June 3, 2015 (EDT)
Question where do we draw the line on notability of merch pages? There are many other pages similar to this. —Fred (Talk Contribs.) 03:28, June 4, 2015 (EDT)
There's the million-dollar question, haha. What if we just put all the stubs together on such a page, and if any one of them happens to somehow gain enough information to actually warrant it's own page then we could take it off? Merchandise is such a hard thing to write articles for because almost all of them will be stubs, but I feel like a table would be a great way to categorize it all on a single page. Heck, if it starts getting too big, we could always break it off into separate tables based on type of merchandise (toys, stationary, whatever) --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 11:14, June 4, 2015 (EDT)

The Simpsons Candles & Holders[edit]

Unnotable. The Solar Dragon 06:35, June 2, 2015 (EDT)


All Marathons[edit]

They're just not notable in my opinion. Only shown in one part of the world. Not much information about them. The Solar Dragon 08:54, June 21, 2015 (EDT)

Well, there should be a "Simpsons Marathons" page with some info about them. Articles for each one seems a bit unnecessary, that's true. Also, I would at least save the Every.Simpsons.Ever. page, that is the only one that could deserve its own article. / Loco87 (TALK / Contribs) 13:58, June 21, 2015 (EDT)
Every. Simpsons. Ever. should be the only exception. That was a huge, worldwide publicized marathon of every episode. Definitely notable. And the Twitter for it is still active today. I don't even think we should have an article about marathons in general. They're just blocks of episodes played one after the other. Nothing too special about them. The Solar Dragon 16:12, June 21, 2015 (EDT)
I agree with Solar here. Even having one page listing marathons seems kinda pointless. I mean, what use would that info even be? Maybe if it was a marathon that happened every year or something, but tv channels play marathons of random shows all the time. It doesn't really feel notable or interesting enough to me. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 20:36, June 21, 2015 (EDT)
I see your point and I totally agree with both of you. «TV channels play marathons of random shows all the time» so having one page with all the marathons listed in it would really seem pointless. / Loco87 (TALK / Contribs) 03:49, June 22, 2015 (EDT)
What counts as a marathon anyway? Cjcsdonut.png -- CJC 12:53, June 22, 2015 (EDT)
I think we should make a page titled "List of marathons". —Fred (Talk Contribs.) 23:49, June 24, 2015 (EDT)
And I still think that even that is unnecessary. Why would people want to look up previous marathons? To see a list of episodes playing? Why? It's completely pointless. The Solar Dragon 07:25, June 25, 2015 (EDT)
Kingcjc: I guess anything advertised as such by the channel in question? --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 12:33, June 25, 2015 (EDT)

List of mystical creatures[edit]

Each character on the page has their own article. It's not really notable. Nothing really groups them together. No one's going to search for that page. The Solar Dragon 16:49, July 8, 2015 (EDT)

Barney & Friends[edit]

If it has less than 5 references it should not get a page, right? / Loco87 (TALK / Contribs) 06:39, July 22, 2015 (EDT)

That is correct. Mythigator also has a page for it in his userspace. The Solar Dragon 07:15, July 22, 2015 (EDT)
This page had already been nominated here in September last year and was moved to Mythigator's userspace so the current page should be deleted. / Loco87 (TALK / Contribs) 07:28, July 22, 2015 (EDT)

Elm Street Video Arcade[edit]

Merely mentioned. Never seen. The Solar Dragon 16:48, August 7, 2015 (EDT)

  • I could see keeping it if it were at least mentioned multiple times, but with only the one mention it definitely doesn't pass the notability standard. Delete. -- Mythigator (talk) 09:41, August 24, 2015 (EDT)
  • Agree. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 15:06, August 24, 2015 (EDT)

Fred (Marge Simpson in: "Screaming Yellow Honkers")[edit]

Mentioned only, against notability policy. The Solar Dragon 07:52, August 24, 2015 (EDT)

Erin Brockovich, Minnie Driver and Isla Fisher[edit]

We don't have pages for other cut guest stars. We mention them on Intended guest stars. So why should these be any exception? The Solar Dragon 05:09, August 25, 2015 (EDT)

Lisa Comics In The UK[edit]

No actual Lisa Comics in the UK. The story was in Simpsons Comics. The Solar Dragon 09:45, October 11, 2015 (EDT)

  • Agree. --Nick97 (talk ~ contribs) 20:21, October 12, 2015 (EDT)
    • Agree. FatHomerTalk 06:17, October 14, 2015 (EDT)
      • Disagree it was released before it was reprinted in 2002 in Simpsons comics (Just needs to be added that there was a lisa comic before being reprinted) DylanTalk 07:00, October 14, 2015 (EDT)
        • Do you have a source for this? i.e. actually owning the comic or have an image of the comic at all? I can't find anything on Google. The Solar Dragon 07:06, October 14, 2015 (EDT)
          • Agree with FatHomer, Nick and Solar. / Loco87 (SimpsonsFT.pngSimpsonsFA.pngSimpsonsFL.pngSimpsonsFK.png / Contribs) 07:12, October 14, 2015 (EDT)
          • I own the comic, I can upload an image of it when I get back home DylanTalk 07:23, October 14, 2015 (EDT)
            • Okay. Make sure the barcode is clear, or it clearly says it's the UK version somewhere in the image then. Just want to make fully sure. The Solar Dragon 07:27, October 14, 2015 (EDT)
              • here File:Simpsons lisa comic £1.25.jpg it appears to be £1.25 DylanTalk 09:58, October 14, 2015 (EDT)
                • Okay, that's fine by me then. The page will stay then. The Solar Dragon 10:26, October 14, 2015 (EDT)