User talk:AleWi/Archive 2

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Hi, I'm AleWi. Please leave a message below. If I left you a message on your talk page, please reply there as I like to keep a conversation in one place.

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Bongo Bonus Stamps

Since you have the new comics, can you check and upload images of the Bongo Bonus Stamps? Thanks. Phinbart - just one of the huge Bart fans! 14:16, 13 February 2012 (EST)

The picture is already there - http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Bongo_Bonus_Stamps /AleWi 14:17, 13 February 2012 (EST)

I know, but I ment BIGGER images. Also, when you get the new comics every time, can you check for them, take a pic or a scan, and then upload it. I would do it but I've only got Simpsons Illustrated 1 from the US, and I'm waiting to get enough money to buy future issues of Simpsons, Bart and Illustrated. Phinbart - just one of the huge Bart fans! 14:46, 13 February 2012 (EST)

ENNNNGGRRRIIIISHHHHH!!!

Add it here for confirmation if you want. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 12:14, 14 February 2012 (EST)

NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! I don't even understand what Tony Plow is supposed to mean! | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 10:20, 16 February 2012 (EST)

Unfortunately, whenever you write a long plot it is always in Engrish, so please add the template yourself. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 11:48, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

Please try and remember to add it yourself. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 10:50, 15 April 2012 (EDT)

Storyboards

AleWi, where are you getting the storyboard images from? Phinbart - just one of the huge Bart fans! 11:03, 16 February 2012 (EST)

Here, http://twitpic.com/3xjfnj /AleWi 11:04, 16 February 2012 (EST)

File Upload Limit

In response to your discussion in today's editor meeting, I have increased the upload limit from 2mb to 5mb. Because the uploads are handled through a regular HTTP connection, it isn't ideal to allow much larger than that because it can cause the server to hold requests while the data is saved and processed on the disk. If you have any files that are larger than 5mb that need to be uploaded, just send me either a link or an email with the image and I can upload it through a maintenance socket. I hope this helps! :) --Jake 22:34, 18 February 2012 (EST)

Flanders Family Bibles

Good grief, Ale, how many of those articles did you make? I'm not complaining; you did a nice job building them. I'm just surprised because it seems that every time I think I've found them all to spiff them up a little, I find another one. -- Mythigator 00:18, 22 February 2012 (EST)

...Speaking of which... :X --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 00:28, 22 February 2012 (EST)

Here is a list /AleWi 00:47, 22 February 2012 (EST)

The list will help a lot. I should have them all done sometime tomorrow (later Feb. 22 or early Feb. 23, in Simpsonswiki time). Thanks! -- Mythigator 01:49, 22 February 2012 (EST)

Since you've got access to images from that episode, could you build an article for "Psalms"? The book is partly visible in the images in the other articles, and if you can get a good image, it would be good to have the article in the interest of completeness. Thanks again ... -- Mythigator 11:21, 22 February 2012 (EST)

I didn't get to them as soon as I thought I would, but they've all been attended to now. If you make an article for "Psalms", please let me know and I'll give it the same "prettying up" treatment. -- Mythigator 09:03, 24 February 2012 (EST)

Done, [[1]] /AleWi 09:15, 24 February 2012 (EST)

And done on my part as well. "Psalms" didn't need much work at all. WooHoo!! -- Mythigator 12:59, 24 February 2012 (EST)

Just to let you know

If you are going to make multiple pages with roughly the same content, please add the text to the Swedish submissions page so you don't make 20 ungrammatical pages. The original idea was you submitted content there before making the actual page. Now it seems like a nightmare... | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 11:51, 27 February 2012 (EST)

Synopsis and Plot

Hi Ale, it's perfectly OK for articles about episodes and comic book stories to have both Synopsis and Plot sections. A synopsis is a short summary. The plot is a longer detailed section that gives a thorough description of what happens. If there is already a synopsis written for a story (as in The Last King of Spotland) and you want to work on the plot, it is not necessary to delete or overwrite the synopsis. Just make a new section for the plot. Thank you ... -- Mythigator 15:01, 3 March 2012 (EST)

David Byrne?

Who did David Byrne voice in "How I Wet Your Mother"? Thank you. --Fred (Talk) 01:59, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

I don't know, but he was credit. /AleWi 02:00, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

Link. The Solar Dragon 02:28, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

Oh, okay. Didn't look at that. Sorry. --Fred (Talk) 02:52, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

Hey, AAAVVV!!

D'you mind renaming some the images I just uploaded to "File:SROAOF Number-1.jpg". So, if you has "File:Clip0006 09.jpg", it should be renamed "File:SROAOF 8.jpg". Thanks if you can, you'll want to suppress the redirect, and please start from #15 and work your way upwards. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 12:28, 21 March 2012 (EDT)

Actually, doesn't matter. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 12:44, 21 March 2012 (EDT)

Cutting

What do you mean Homer cut him? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 10:54, 26 March 2012 (EDT)

He don't let him play, Homer called it cut. "Wendell is cut. Rudy is cut. Janey, you're gone". /AleWi 10:55, 26 March 2012 (EDT)

Okay. That's a bit of an uncommon term, I think, you might want to put "didn't let him play". | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 10:57, 26 March 2012 (EDT)

That's not an uncommon term at all. Here's Wiktionary's definition: "To cut from prior association" i.e. Stephen was cut from the team. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 13:28, 26 March 2012 (EDT)

Mehkay. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 13:29, 26 March 2012 (EDT)

Are you serious, Randomno? I doesn't matter. --Fred (Talk • Contribs.) 18:23, 3 April 2012 (EDT)

Get a sense of humour

What the heading says. I spent ages changing everything yesterday and it took considerable more time as I was drunk. Thanks for making me do it again. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 05:20, 1 April 2012 (EDT)

And I spent a hell of a long time creating it/stealing from Wikipedia!--Cook879 18:09, 7 April 2012 (EDT)

Channel rights

Do you think you could help by giving info on Sweden networks on my channel rights list? Thanks, ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 12:00, 4 April 2012 (EDT)

I don't know which season they have right to brodcast, and where I can find it, but they has brodcast every season the last 3 years. I only now which season they brodcast right now. /AleWi 12:05, 4 April 2012 (EDT)

OK, what seasons do they broadcast? ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 12:10, 4 April 2012 (EDT)

Right now they are brodcasting on the weekend, season 13 and on April 14 they start with Season 11. Today they start with season 22 on the weekdays and end with season 21 after there brodcasting of season 20. They also brodcast season 23 every week. /AleWi 12:19, 4 April 2012 (EDT)

Which channel? ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 12:28, 4 April 2012 (EDT)

TV6. /AleWi 12:38, 4 April 2012 (EDT)

The Simpsons

Remember to italicise the word when writing it. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 13:31, 8 April 2012 (EDT)

Merchandise Award

You have been awarded The Merchandise Award for adding the most merchandise info to the wiki on the Weekend Special (April 6-8).

Feel free to put it on your user page! ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 03:50, 9 April 2012 (EDT)

Framegrabs

You didn't upload File:7G02-00289.png for the "Bart the Genius" framegrabs. ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 16:02, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

Saw it just when you write this, it's upload now. /AleWi 16:05, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

Deleted scene

About this edit, you have watched all the deleted scenes in the DVD, haven't you? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 14:14, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

It's not a deleted scene, but it's in the episode, but not deleted. /AleWi 14:57, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

Okay, thanks. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 15:37, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

BTG Framegrabs

Are you going to upload any more "Bart the Genius" framegrabs? ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 10:54, 14 April 2012 (EDT)

I have stop upload framegrabs, we most first discuss this more for the images takes a lot of memory. /AleWi 11:27, 14 April 2012 (EDT)

BMCB

Where'd you get them images from? The couch gag, etc.? ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 08:11, 15 April 2012 (EDT)

Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVYL52Ij3Sg /AleWi 08:12, 15 April 2012 (EDT)

Jamie working on farms

Was Jamie working on one farm, or more than one farm? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 11:11, 16 April 2012 (EDT)

One farm. /AleWi 11:13, 16 April 2012 (EDT)

Thanks. Trying to sort out the Engrish. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 11:13, 16 April 2012 (EDT)

What happens after Jack tells Jamie they don't have a cow? It's too Engrishy. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 11:23, 16 April 2012 (EDT)

He give him the seeds if his promises to never came back. /AleWi 11:25, 16 April 2012 (EDT)

Oh, okay. Did Jack or the cashier give him te seeds (sorry, nealy solved the Engrish)? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 11:33, 16 April 2012 (EDT)

The cashier give him them. /AleWi 11:35, 16 April 2012 (EDT)

User:Randomno/Episode_credits_errors &diff=prev &oldid=365009

I'm confused. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 10:47, 25 April 2012 (EDT)

Hang on, I think I understand. Do you have a video of 1989 copyright? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 10:48, 25 April 2012 (EDT)

If you watch an later version of the episode is the date 1990, but when it was first brodcasting in 1989, it was 1989. No I haven't a copy of 1989./AleWi 10:50, 25 April 2012 (EDT)

Here's a vid of ads in the actual original broadcast of the ep: [2]. ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 10:55, 25 April 2012 (EDT)

Cleanup

Ditto Phinbart's talk page, can you try and clean up after yourself a bit more please? At the moment we have to add all the image info, create all of the talk pages, add the Engrish template, etc. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 15:18, 28 April 2012 (EDT)

There are 5 stages in cleaning up your edits.

1. Eagerness
2. Boredness
3. Tiredness
4. Depression
5. Madness

I'm on stage 3. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 07:41, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

There's an eager stage? Don't remember that one!--Cook879 07:12, 30 April 2012 (EDT)

☆The Silver Homer Award☆

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☆The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)}☆ 02:13, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

A Simpleton Plan

Hi, as you have The Simpsons Winter Wingding #5, can you please try and get an image for A Simpleton Plan. I would try myself, but I only have the annual 2012, whcih is hardcover, and the logo is too far over on the page. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 05:38, 5 May 2012 (EDT)

I think I have that one downloaded. If AleWi hasn't handled it i will check tonight.--Cook879 07:01, 5 May 2012 (EDT)

You have a comic downloaded? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 07:04, 5 May 2012 (EDT)

The wonders of the Internet Randomno.--Cook879 07:12, 5 May 2012 (EDT)

How did you get it? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 07:35, 5 May 2012 (EDT)

Thank you, AleWi. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 08:21, 5 May 2012 (EDT)

Randomno, links of such a nature should not be posted here.--Cook879 17:05, 5 May 2012 (EDT)

Merchandise Page

It's fine that I add merchandise here? WebkinzMania 16:43, 10 May 2012 (EDT)

Signature

Why do you sign with "/~~~~"? You might as well you change it on your preferences page so it does that automatically. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 09:14, 13 May 2012 (EDT)

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Name extensions

If there are others with a certain name, one time characters should nearly always have a bit in brackets with the episode they came from. If there is no dismbiguation then you may be allowed otherwise. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 13:30, 13 May 2012 (EDT)

No Engrish

How are the articles you recently created not in Engrish? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 12:23, 15 May 2012 (EDT)

^ | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 14:25, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

Frankly Randomno I find this comment potentially racist. You're implying that, as he is Swedish, he can't create basic English articles.--Cook879 16:36, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

(This is for Cook). No offense, but he barely ever can. It's just that a while ago he created some articles that were perfect English. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 10:03, 8 June 2012 (EDT)

(This is for Randomno). I created shorter article then. /AleWi 10:49, 8 June 2012 (EDT)

No, they were quite long articles. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 10:52, 8 June 2012 (EDT)

I not good on write in English but I understand English, I have learing English in school since I was 9 as everyone i Sweden and for entering a high school education you must pass English, Swedish and Math. /AleWi 16:42, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

That's not actually what I was asking. | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 10:03, 8 June 2012 (EDT)

Ever tried learning a foreign language, Randomno? -- Mythigator 13:54, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

Season 23 airdates

Do you think you could provide a list of premiere airdates of Season 23 episodes on TV6? Thanks, ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 14:07, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

"The Falcon and the D'ohman", February 28, 2012

"Bart Stops to Smell the Roosevelts", March 6, 2012

"Treehouse of Horror XXII", March 13, 2012

"Replaceable You", March 20, 2012

"The Food Wife", March 27, 2012

"The Book Job", April 3, 2012

"The Man in the Blue Flannel Pants", April 10, 2012

"The Ten-Per-Cent Solution", April 17, 2012

"Holidays of Future Passed", April 24, 2012

"Politically Inept, with Homer Simpson", May 1, 2012

"The D'oh-cial Network", May 8, 2012

"Moe Goes From Rags To Riches", May 15, 2012

The rest, Fall 2012 /AleWi 14:21, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

Thanks, but it seems weird why TV6 have stopped broadcasting new episodes today. They were supposed to air a new episode today, ("The Daughter Also Rises"), but instead aired a Season 9 episode. ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 14:43, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

Yes, no more new episode until sometimes after the summer. /AleWi 14:47, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

Foe

Why did you request to be my foe? | | Talk | Contributions | Edit count | 05:21, 26 May 2012 (EDT)

Wild guess, but it might have something to do with all this "Engrish! and "ALEVVI!" business. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 10:51, 26 May 2012 (EDT)

Sounds like a reasonable guess to me, actually. I put the {{Engrish}} tag on articles so it will be known that they need work, but I don't get on anyone's case or add any "YELLING AT FELLOW EDITORS!!!!" while I'm at it. Randomno, you really need to "play nice" and follow suit in this regard. Yelling at people in that manner (as you've been told before) could easily be taken as an insult. However good a sport AleWi is being, that doesn't change the facts that 1) the yelling is not nice and 2) you need to knock it off. -- Mythigator 09:28, 8 June 2012 (EDT)

IP Useless Edits

Good work cleaning up after the latest swarm of useless edits from that 86.x.x.x range. If they do it again, please drop an admin a talk page note and one of us will block the offending IP. Thanks Ale, and again, nice work. - Mythigator 09:22, 8 June 2012 (EDT)

Episode Title: "That '90s Show"

Hi, it looks like you're working a bunch of articles related to the "That '90s Show" episode. Please note the correct placement of the apostrophe in the episode title. The idea is that the apostrophe is substituting for the "19" in "1990s". Thanks and keep up the good work! -- Mythigator 14:38, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

Maggie's Crib article

Hi again! I noticed you added the table onto the article for the Maggie's Crib story series. I was thinking about doing that, and since you had the idea as well, that means it was a REALLY good idea. Nicely done! Just one thing, though: I think it would make more sense for the table to have synopses (short summaries) than plots for each story, for a few reasons:

1. With tables in general, the fewer words you can manage to put on them, the better they look. And it's really easy to make nice short summaries for the Maggie's Crib stories.
2. A number of the plots have language issues. The table will look better and more polished with all-done synopses than with plots that need work.
3. We want to give people (that is, visitors to the wiki) a reason to click the links to the story articles. They will have more reason to do that if the table only has synopses, instead of the full plots.

I am perfectly willing to write synopses for the stories that don't have them yet. (I had better be willing, since it's my idea.) But I know it took a lot of work to get all those plots onto the table, so I want to make sure you know what's going on so it doesn't look like I'm disrespecting your work. Anyway, is it OK by you if I make that change to the table? Thanks ... -- Mythigator 09:35, 16 June 2012 (EDT)

Yes, I have thought we should have synopses there and a longer plot in the articles. /AleWi 09:48, 16 June 2012 (EDT)

I will get going on that then, Ale. Thank you for your quick reply! Also, I would like to work on the older Maggie's Crib stories, and I am going to need help which I think you can provide. If you have Solar's e-mail address, could you please drop him a line and ask him to send you my personal e-mail address so we can communicate offline? Thanks again Ale!! -- Mythigator 11:09, 16 June 2012 (EDT)

Hey, I have email you by Special:EmailUser so you should now have my email address. /AleWi 11:22, 16 June 2012 (EDT)

Kenya

How is it you know that the Simpsons were in Kenya in that calendar picture? Also, you could probably replace the image on Argentina's page with a better image from the calendar. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 11:32, 19 June 2012 (EDT)

The description of the image is Marveling at termite mounds in Kenya. The picture taken in Argentina don't represent the country, it's a picture of the family dancing Tango. /AleWi 11:35, 19 June 2012 (EDT)

Ok, thanks! --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 11:42, 19 June 2012 (EDT)

Calendar

How did you get an image from the 2013 calendar? And which calendar? ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 13:51, 19 June 2012 (EDT)

I own them, you can since last week buy, The Simpsons 2013 Mini Calendar, The Simpsons 2013 Desk Calendar and The Simpsons 2013 Fun Calendar. /AleWi 13:57, 19 June 2012 (EDT)

Bronze Homer

The Bronze Homer Award This user was awarded the Bronze Homer Award for June 2012!

Feel free to add {{User Bronze Homer|June 2012}} to your userpage. --Wk (talk) 02:44, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

Gold? Did I not won the gold? /AleWi 02:45, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

You did...--Cook879 17:20, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

Might Math-Bot

Are you sure it's not "Mighty Math-Bot? --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 22:32, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

☆The Golden Homer Award☆

The Golden Homer Award Congratulations! For your outstanding service to articles you have been awarded the Golden Homer Award for October 2024}!

Feel free to put {{User Golden Homer|October 2024}} on your user page.

The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 04:51, 1 August 2012 (EDT)

File:The Complete Fifteenth Season.png

Where did you get this image from? I've searched Amazon but I can't find the artwork or a listing for the DVD. ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 06:17, 1 August 2012 (EDT)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Simpsons-Season-15-DVD/dp/B005ZC98XS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1343816987&sr=8-3 /AleWi 06:30, 1 August 2012 (EDT)

2013 calendars

Which calendar is the Springfield Elementary picture from? ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 12:05, 6 August 2012 (EDT)

The Simpsons 2013 Fun Calendar. /AleWi 12:07, 6 August 2012 (EDT)

Li'l Homer 1

Hi, I just wanted to double check whether or not The Brother Grime The Boy Who Not Take a Bath is actually the correct title for the story, because it's kind of odd grammar. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 22:30, 10 September 2012 (EDT)

Bronze Homer Award

The Bronze Homer Award This user was awarded the Bronze Homer Award for August 2012!

--Cook879 16:11, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

Louis St. Laurent

You put up the wrong image on his page. St. Laurent is the guy with the mustache, Eisenhower is the bald guy. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 19:16, 28 September 2012 (EDT)

☆The Golden Homer Award☆

The Golden Homer Award Congratulations! For your outstanding service to articles you have been awarded the Golden Homer Award for October 2024}!

Feel free to put {{User Golden Homer|October 2024}} on your user page.

☆The Solar Dragon☆ 15:29, 1 October 2012 (EDT)

Season 23 airdates (again) and Tapped Out

Could you give me the Sweden airdates for the rest of Season 23? And, do you have The Simpsons: Tapped Out? ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 11:30, 28 October 2012 (EDT)

• Date for season 23 so far:
• "The Falcon and the D'ohman" 28 february 2012
• "Bart Stops to Smell the Roosevelts" 6 march 2012
• "Treehouse of Horror XXII" 13 march 2012
• "Replaceable You" 20 march 2012
• "The Food Wife" 27 march 2012
• "The Book Job" 3 april 2012
• "The Man in the Blue Flannel Pants" 10 april 2012
• "The Ten-Per-Cent Solution" 17 april 2012
• "Holidays of Future Passed" 24 april 2012
• "Politically Inept, with Homer Simpson" 1 maj 2012
• "The D'oh-cial Network" 8 maj 2012
• "Moe Goes From Rags To Riches" 15 maj 2012
• "The Daughter Also Rises" 26 september 2012
• "At Long Last Leave" 3 october 2012
• "Exit Through the Kwik-E-Mart" 10 october 2012
• "How I Wet Your Mother" 17 october 2012
• "Them, Robot" 24 october 2012
• "Beware My Cheating Bart" 31 october 2012
• "A Totally Fun Thing That Bart Will Never Do Again" 6 november 2012
• I have not Tapped Out, I have an Android, no Iphone, Ipad or Ipod.
• -AleWi 11:38, 28 October 2012 (EDT)

☆The Silver Homer Award☆

The Silver Homer Award Congratulations! For your outstanding service to articles you have been awarded the Silver Homer Award for October 2024!

Feel free to put {{User Silver Homer|October 2024}} on your user page.

The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 18:50, 1 November 2012 (EDT)

Svenska Wikisimpsons

The Swedish Wikisimpsons should be back online and fully functional. I now have a dedicated server set up to run the sub-wikis, and you should find that performance is just as good, if not better than, the English site. (It uses a better web server than the one used here.) It may take a bit longer to load each page for the first time, but afterwards it should be lightning fast. Once again, sorry it took so long to get this all set up. Let me know if you have any issues loading any area of the site. --Jake 01:06, 9 December 2012 (EST)

Hey AleWi. Just wanted to let you know that I've done some additional configuration, and the Svenska site should now be even faster than before. If you find any unexpected issues, please let me know. --Jake 22:58, 26 December 2012 (EST)

Maggie's Party

Where did you get the image for "Maggie's Party" from? ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 11:51, 14 December 2012 (EST)

Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skb9cu2bDwc /AleWi 12:59, 14 December 2012 (EST)

☆The Bronze Homer Award☆

The Bronze Homer Award Congratulations! For your outstanding service to Wikisimpsons you have been awarded the Bronze Homer Award for November 2012!

Feel free to put {{User Bronze Homer|November 2012}} on your user page.--Cook879 18:20, 14 December 2012 (EST)