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'''Wiki discussion''' is the place where major discussions and decisions can be made. Larger discussions will have their own pages but smaller discussions will go here.
 
'''Wiki discussion''' is the place where major discussions and decisions can be made. Larger discussions will have their own pages but smaller discussions will go here.
  
== Foreign voice actors ==
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== Linking policy ==
So, we have many articles for foreign voice actors on the wiki. And there's some things I want to do about these.
 
#Sources for their involvement. How do we know they voiced these characters? I want references showing that they do. No findable references or proof that they voice characters in the foreign dub, they get deleted.
 
#Notability needs to be addressed. Voice actors who voice main cast regularly can be kept. But people who voice one or two characters in guest star roles shouldn't be on this wiki. e.g. Jan Skopeček. We're an English language wiki, we shouldn't have articles for every cast member of foreign dubs.
 
  
The category is [[:Category:Foreign language cast members]]. Can everyone please help to identify references for each cast member's involvement, and if they're not notable enough, mark them for deletion? Thank you, <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 07:04, May 13, 2017 (EDT)
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There are tons of ''episode''/Quotes pages (see [[:Category:Quotes]]) where linking differs from other pages:
:I also think that articles for people who just dubbed The Simpson movie are also not notable. They can just be listed under foreign voice actors on the character articles. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 07:10, May 14, 2017 (EDT)
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* character names in front of lines are '''all''' links instead of first occurence
::Do we really need pages for foreign voice actors and actresses? I mean, we already merged the foreign broadcasters. There are more than fifty foreign dubs of the show. Why should we list every voice actor from every foreign dub? This is an English-language wiki about The Simpsons. I say we should create a page titled something like "Foreign Dub Cast Members" and list names there for each foreign dub. No actual proof or reference a foreign voice actor voiced a character, they get erased from the list. / [[User:Loco87|'''<font color=chocolate><font face="Agency FB"><font size="3">Loco</font></font></font><font color=#00CC99><font face="Agency FB"><font size="3">87</font></font></font>''']] <sup>([[User talk:Loco87|<font color=grey><font face="Courier New">'''Talk'''</font></font>]] / [[Special:Contributions/Loco87|<font color=navy><font face="Century Gothic">Contribs</font></font>]])</sup> 19:01, May 14, 2017 (EDT)
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* no other links occur in the text
:::That is a good point. I don't really see why we need them at all. They could just as easily be kept on the [[Non-English versions]] and be put into foreign dub boxes on character articles than have a full article for them. We don't need articles for every foreign cast member as we're an English wiki. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 08:06, May 15, 2017 (EDT)
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Is this normal? --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 06:26, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
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:It should be first instance of a link gets linked, rather than every instance. If every instance has a link, they should be removed. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 07:41, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
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::Yes I think so. I checked again a few random pages and I see that there are much less overlinked one I thought first. It is [[User talk:AleWi|AleWi]] who has a different concept with links. I do not want to destroy his work unwisely. I left him a notice about this discussion. --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 09:52, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
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:If it helps ... When I work on Quotes pages, I generally link a character's name in its first occurrence in a block of dialogue. A good example is [[Lisa the Vegetarian/Quotes]]. This can result in every character name, or almost character every name, being linked if the quotes page consists largely of one-liners. For that reason, plus the fact that having too many links tends to make a Quotes page look cluttered (IMO), when I build a Quotes page I try to avoid one-liners and instead have at least three or four lines in each block of dialogue. This can result in the block division being a bit arbitrary, as I may end up having to split the blocks wherever it "feels" right instead of going by hard-and-fast rules. An example of a Quotes page where I had to take that approach is [[The Man of the House/Quotes]]. That's probably more than you wanted to know about the art of building Quotes pages, but I hope it's helpful. -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] ([[User talk:Mythigator|talk]]) 11:05, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
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Okay. It seems I may uniform the quotes pages. Decade ago I had a bot editing the big Wikipedia. I think it will be useful again after same facelifting. Are there any special policies with bots here? I think I need a new account in first step. --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 05:22, October 22, 2018 (EDT)
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''[[User:Abbot|Abbot]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s first function is almost ready. I just have a question before it starts to work. There is no [[Wikisimpsons:Manual_of_Style|style guide]] for quotes so I don't know if the colon after name should be bold. ('''Krusty:''' … vs '''Krusty''': …). Do you have any preference? If not, I make bold colons. --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 02:47, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
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:Yep, colons should be bold. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 06:37, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
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::I guess constructions like [[The Secret War of Lisa Simpson/Quotes|this]] should be also changed:
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::: '''Instructor''' [to Bart]: Since you've already attended public school…
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::: '''Instructor:''' ''[to Bart]'' Since you've already attended public school…
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:: BTW. What about a new template called qf (quote from) that could do indentation, and typesetting in ine step? <code><nowiki>{{qf|Instructor}}</nowiki></code> --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 12:20, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
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:::If you could figure out a way to make an easy to use template, that'll be great. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 12:58, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
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:::: Here you are:<br>{{qf|Instructor}} ''[to Bart]'' Since you've already attended public school…<br>[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 06:09, November 3, 2018 (EDT)
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:::::{{qf|[[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]]}} ''[enthusiastically]'' I like it! -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] ([[User talk:Mythigator|talk]]) 14:48, November 3, 2018 (EDT)
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Would you mind to have a sight on Abbot's [[Special:Contributions/Abbot|first few edits]]? It does most of the tasks with Quotes pages. (A lot of things must be done manually even.) --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 14:55, November 3, 2018 (EDT)
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== Wikisimpsons.css skin proposal ==
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[[File:Wikisimpsons css skin proposal.png|200px|thumb|Sample page ([https://static.simpsonswiki.com/images/e/ea/Wikisimpsons_css_skin_proposal.png full size])]]
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Dear Wikisimpsons users,
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For some days I've been using and improving a custom Wikisimpsons.css skin (shown in the picture). The wiki has been using the yellow theme for quite some time and I'm aware that color is part of its essence. I wanted, however, to try this new alternative which I found acceptable enough to make this proposal for an update of the wiki skin.
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I would appreciate it if you could give it a try by copying [[User:Simpsons88/wikisimpsons.css|this code]] and pasting it in [[Special:Mypage/wikisimpsons.css|{{USERNAME}}/wikisimpsons.css]], and then surfing the wiki a little bit to check it out. You can return, of course, to the normal skin by deleting the pasted code and leaving a blank page.
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The skin could be easily adapted to Christmas and Halloween themes by using the files Simp2 Christmas.png and Halloween bg.png.
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What do you guys think of it? Any feedback is welcomed. Thanks for your time, --[[User:Simpsons88|Simpsons88]] ([[User talk:Simpsons88|talk]]) 14:49, March 22, 2021 (EDT)
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:Honestly, I feel that the current design we have looks cleaner and more modern. The cloud background was a product of its time. And it feels like there's too much going on with it. Plus, we'd most likely have to update templates and other stuff to make it all work properly. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 19:38, March 22, 2021 (EDT)
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== https://answers.simpsonswiki.com/ are not working ==
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Hello, I tried to ask a question at https://answers.simpsonswiki.com/ but I cannot see Anti-spam verification and the log in link also does not work. And my question was: Where to watch [[Maggie Sucks]] and [[Oscar-Nominated]]? If they deleted it on YouTube, is there another way? --[[User:Patriccck|Patriccck]] ([[User talk:Patriccck|talk]]) 15:10, August 4, 2022 (EDT)
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:Hello, we are aware of issues with the Answers site. I will investigate this weekend to see if I can get the login functionality working again. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. -[[User:Jake|<span style="color:#008000;font-weight:bold;">Ja</span>]][[User_talk:Jake|<span style="color:#E58900;font-weight:bold;">ke</span>]] 21:09, August 4, 2022 (EDT)

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Wiki discussion is the place where major discussions and decisions can be made. Larger discussions will have their own pages but smaller discussions will go here.

Linking policy

There are tons of episode/Quotes pages (see Category:Quotes) where linking differs from other pages:

  • character names in front of lines are all links instead of first occurence
  • no other links occur in the text

Is this normal? --2F13 (talk) 06:26, October 6, 2018 (EDT)

It should be first instance of a link gets linked, rather than every instance. If every instance has a link, they should be removed. The Solar Dragon 07:41, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
Yes I think so. I checked again a few random pages and I see that there are much less overlinked one I thought first. It is AleWi who has a different concept with links. I do not want to destroy his work unwisely. I left him a notice about this discussion. --2F13 (talk) 09:52, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
If it helps ... When I work on Quotes pages, I generally link a character's name in its first occurrence in a block of dialogue. A good example is Lisa the Vegetarian/Quotes. This can result in every character name, or almost character every name, being linked if the quotes page consists largely of one-liners. For that reason, plus the fact that having too many links tends to make a Quotes page look cluttered (IMO), when I build a Quotes page I try to avoid one-liners and instead have at least three or four lines in each block of dialogue. This can result in the block division being a bit arbitrary, as I may end up having to split the blocks wherever it "feels" right instead of going by hard-and-fast rules. An example of a Quotes page where I had to take that approach is The Man of the House/Quotes. That's probably more than you wanted to know about the art of building Quotes pages, but I hope it's helpful. -- Mythigator (talk) 11:05, October 6, 2018 (EDT)

Okay. It seems I may uniform the quotes pages. Decade ago I had a bot editing the big Wikipedia. I think it will be useful again after same facelifting. Are there any special policies with bots here? I think I need a new account in first step. --2F13 (talk) 05:22, October 22, 2018 (EDT)

Abbot's first function is almost ready. I just have a question before it starts to work. There is no style guide for quotes so I don't know if the colon after name should be bold. (Krusty: … vs Krusty: …). Do you have any preference? If not, I make bold colons. --2F13 (talk) 02:47, October 23, 2018 (EDT)

Yep, colons should be bold. The Solar Dragon 06:37, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
I guess constructions like this should be also changed:
Instructor [to Bart]: Since you've already attended public school…
to
Instructor: [to Bart] Since you've already attended public school…
BTW. What about a new template called qf (quote from) that could do indentation, and typesetting in ine step? {{qf|Instructor}} --2F13 (talk) 12:20, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
If you could figure out a way to make an easy to use template, that'll be great. The Solar Dragon 12:58, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
Here you are:
Instructor: [to Bart] Since you've already attended public school…
2F13 (talk) 06:09, November 3, 2018 (EDT)
Mythigator: [enthusiastically] I like it! -- Mythigator (talk) 14:48, November 3, 2018 (EDT)

Would you mind to have a sight on Abbot's first few edits? It does most of the tasks with Quotes pages. (A lot of things must be done manually even.) --2F13 (talk) 14:55, November 3, 2018 (EDT)

Wikisimpsons.css skin proposal

Sample page (full size)

Dear Wikisimpsons users,

For some days I've been using and improving a custom Wikisimpsons.css skin (shown in the picture). The wiki has been using the yellow theme for quite some time and I'm aware that color is part of its essence. I wanted, however, to try this new alternative which I found acceptable enough to make this proposal for an update of the wiki skin.

I would appreciate it if you could give it a try by copying this code and pasting it in User/wikisimpsons.css, and then surfing the wiki a little bit to check it out. You can return, of course, to the normal skin by deleting the pasted code and leaving a blank page.

The skin could be easily adapted to Christmas and Halloween themes by using the files Simp2 Christmas.png and Halloween bg.png.

What do you guys think of it? Any feedback is welcomed. Thanks for your time, --Simpsons88 (talk) 14:49, March 22, 2021 (EDT)

Honestly, I feel that the current design we have looks cleaner and more modern. The cloud background was a product of its time. And it feels like there's too much going on with it. Plus, we'd most likely have to update templates and other stuff to make it all work properly. The Solar Dragon 19:38, March 22, 2021 (EDT)

https://answers.simpsonswiki.com/ are not working

Hello, I tried to ask a question at https://answers.simpsonswiki.com/ but I cannot see Anti-spam verification and the log in link also does not work. And my question was: Where to watch Maggie Sucks and Oscar-Nominated? If they deleted it on YouTube, is there another way? --Patriccck (talk) 15:10, August 4, 2022 (EDT)

Hello, we are aware of issues with the Answers site. I will investigate this weekend to see if I can get the login functionality working again. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. -Jake 21:09, August 4, 2022 (EDT)