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'''Wiki discussion''' is the place where major discussions and decisions can be made. Larger discussions will have their own pages but smaller discussions will go here.
 
'''Wiki discussion''' is the place where major discussions and decisions can be made. Larger discussions will have their own pages but smaller discussions will go here.
  
== Foreign comics ==
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== Linking policy ==
Okay, I think we need to start a discussion on comics. In particular, foreign comics. I think this is how it should be done:
 
*English language comics get articles for the series and each issue. This will include releases in the US, UK and Australia. And any other country with English releases.
 
*Foreign countries should just get an article like "Simpsons Comics in Country". This will list the series in the country, how many issues of that series are released etc. but they will not have separate articles for each comic issue.
 
  
The reasoning behind this is that this is an English language wiki. Whilst it is okay to have some articles about foreign media, we shouldn't have a whole load of them. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 07:15, December 7, 2015 (EST)
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There are tons of ''episode''/Quotes pages (see [[:Category:Quotes]]) where linking differs from other pages:
:I agree, not because this is an english wiki, but because they are completely unnecessary. I don't know how the simpsons comics are in other countries, but I think they only were translated in Sweden with no differences. [[User:FatHomer|<b><span style="color: teal">FatHomer</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:FatHomer|Talk]]</sup> 11:47, December 9, 2015 (EST)
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* character names in front of lines are '''all''' links instead of first occurence
::I also agree. This is an English language wiki, so it does not make much sense to have articles about Simpsons Comics in Other (non-English Speaking) Countries. And I also agree with FatHomer: the comics in other countries are basically the same english comics translated. / [[User:Loco87|'''<font color=C23232><font size="4"><font face="Calibri">Loco</font></font></font><font color=92CC58><font face="Agency FB"><font size="4">87</font></font></font>''']] <sup>([[User talk:Loco87|<font color=78D1F0><font face="Courier New">'''TALK'''</font></font>]] / [[Special:Contributions/Loco87|'''<font color=Tomato><font face="Century Gothic"><font size="2">Contribs</font></font></font>''']])</sup> 15:23, December 9, 2015 (EST)
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* no other links occur in the text
:::Agreed. [[User:Frederick|<big><font color="blue">Fred</font></big>]] (<small>[[User talk:Frederick|<font color="grey">Talk</font>]]</small> '''•''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Frederick|<font color="red">Contribs.</font>]]</small>) 07:26, December 11, 2015 (EST)
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Is this normal? --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 06:26, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
::::I also think we should only have one article for foreign countries, not every issues./[[User:AleWi|AleWi]] ([[User talk:AleWi|talk]]) 10:09, December 11, 2015 (EST)
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:It should be first instance of a link gets linked, rather than every instance. If every instance has a link, they should be removed. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 07:41, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
:::::Makes sense to me. --[[User:Nick97|'''<font color=darkorange>Nick97</font>''']] <sup>([[User talk:Nick97|<font color=peach>'''talk'''</font>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Nick97|<font color=turquoise>'''contribs'''</font>]])</sup>  00:47, December 12, 2015 (EST)
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::Yes I think so. I checked again a few random pages and I see that there are much less overlinked one I thought first. It is [[User talk:AleWi|AleWi]] who has a different concept with links. I do not want to destroy his work unwisely. I left him a notice about this discussion. --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 09:52, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
::::::<s>So Solar you mean something like this http://prntscr.com/9dhceg without the link to a comic page article? [[User:Dylan|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Dylan</span>]] <span style="color:mediumseagreen;">-</span> [[User_talk:Dylan|<span style="color:limegreen;">Talk</span>]]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Dylan|<span style="color:green;">Contribs</span>]]</sup> 18:55, December 12, 2015 (EST)</s>
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:If it helps ... When I work on Quotes pages, I generally link a character's name in its first occurrence in a block of dialogue. A good example is [[Lisa the Vegetarian/Quotes]]. This can result in every character name, or almost character every name, being linked if the quotes page consists largely of one-liners. For that reason, plus the fact that having too many links tends to make a Quotes page look cluttered (IMO), when I build a Quotes page I try to avoid one-liners and instead have at least three or four lines in each block of dialogue. This can result in the block division being a bit arbitrary, as I may end up having to split the blocks wherever it "feels" right instead of going by hard-and-fast rules. An example of a Quotes page where I had to take that approach is [[The Man of the House/Quotes]]. That's probably more than you wanted to know about the art of building Quotes pages, but I hope it's helpful. -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] ([[User talk:Mythigator|talk]]) 11:05, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
:::::::I've thrown together a quick mock-up [[User:Solar Dragon/Foreign Comics|here]]. Of course, more information can be added etc. Any suggestions will be welcomed too. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 18:58, December 12, 2015 (EST)
 
  
== List of nudity and semi-nudity ==
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Okay. It seems I may uniform the quotes pages. Decade ago I had a bot editing the big Wikipedia. I think it will be useful again after same facelifting. Are there any special policies with bots here? I think I need a new account in first step. --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 05:22, October 22, 2018 (EDT)
Okay, this has been bugging me for some time. I think it's time to define some proper guidelines about this page. This is what I think should be done about it:
 
#Only nudity is listed. No semi-nudity (no underwear, diapers etc.)
 
#Half nudity should also not be included. No male toplessness for example.
 
#Listing when a buttcrack is shown is not nudity. That happens from time to time in real life too. It's not counted as nudity.
 
  
This makes me feel dirty for having to bring all this up... urgh... but this page really needs to be defined properly. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 07:15, December 7, 2015 (EST)
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''[[User:Abbot|Abbot]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s first function is almost ready. I just have a question before it starts to work. There is no [[Wikisimpsons:Manual_of_Style|style guide]] for quotes so I don't know if the colon after name should be bold. ('''Krusty:''' … vs '''Krusty''': …). Do you have any preference? If not, I make bold colons. --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 02:47, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
: I created this list based on SNPP, that had the same list. Other user started to adding underwear and diapers later. For me is Solar's idea good./[[User:AleWi|AleWi]] ([[User talk:AleWi|talk]]) 10:09, December 11, 2015 (EST)
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:Yep, colons should be bold. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 06:37, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
::Agreed. --[[User:Nick97|'''<font color=darkorange>Nick97</font>''']] <sup>([[User talk:Nick97|<font color=peach>'''talk'''</font>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Nick97|<font color=turquoise>'''contribs'''</font>]])</sup>  00:51, December 12, 2015 (EST)
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::I guess constructions like [[The Secret War of Lisa Simpson/Quotes|this]] should be also changed:
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::: '''Instructor''' [to Bart]: Since you've already attended public school…
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::to
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::: '''Instructor:''' ''[to Bart]'' Since you've already attended public school…
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:: BTW. What about a new template called qf (quote from) that could do indentation, and typesetting in ine step? <code><nowiki>{{qf|Instructor}}</nowiki></code> --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 12:20, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
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:::If you could figure out a way to make an easy to use template, that'll be great. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 12:58, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
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:::: Here you are:<br>{{qf|Instructor}} ''[to Bart]'' Since you've already attended public school…<br>[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 06:09, November 3, 2018 (EDT)
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:::::{{qf|[[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]]}} ''[enthusiastically]'' I like it! -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] ([[User talk:Mythigator|talk]]) 14:48, November 3, 2018 (EDT)
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Would you mind to have a sight on Abbot's [[Special:Contributions/Abbot|first few edits]]? It does most of the tasks with Quotes pages. (A lot of things must be done manually even.) --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 14:55, November 3, 2018 (EDT)
  
== Image policy ==
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== Wikisimpsons.css skin proposal ==
What's the image policy on fan-made diagrams? Reason I ask is because I was able to rip the HUD maps from Hit & Run but they'd be more informative if I labelled where all the major locations are. --[[User:Zenthor|Zenthor]] ([[User talk:Zenthor|talk]]) 19:06, January 2, 2016 (EST)
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[[File:Wikisimpsons css skin proposal.png|200px|thumb|Sample page ([https://static.simpsonswiki.com/images/e/ea/Wikisimpsons_css_skin_proposal.png full size])]]
:Sorry for the late reply to this. That should be fine, but would it be possible to upload two of each image, one labelled, one clean? <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 14:00, February 17, 2016 (EST)
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Dear Wikisimpsons users,
  
== "Weekly" to-do list ==
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For some days I've been using and improving a custom Wikisimpsons.css skin (shown in the picture). The wiki has been using the yellow theme for quite some time and I'm aware that color is part of its essence. I wanted, however, to try this new alternative which I found acceptable enough to make this proposal for an update of the wiki skin.
I think we should have an "official" to-do list for every new episode. It would probably help so some pages aren't forgotten to be updated, like the list of chalkboard gags. I've made a list of things to complete here: [[User:FatHomer/Sandbox]]. There are probably more things that could be added to it, and you're welcome to edit it if you have anything in mind. [[User:FatHomer|<b><span style="color: teal">FatHomer</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:FatHomer|Talk]]</sup> 12:09, February 17, 2016 (EST)
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:I'm not too sure on that. If someone wants to update episode articles, go ahead. Having a list won't make people want to. Everyone knows what needs to be done by looking at the articles. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 14:00, February 17, 2016 (EST)
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I would appreciate it if you could give it a try by copying [[User:Simpsons88/wikisimpsons.css|this code]] and pasting it in [[Special:Mypage/wikisimpsons.css|{{USERNAME}}/wikisimpsons.css]], and then surfing the wiki a little bit to check it out. You can return, of course, to the normal skin by deleting the pasted code and leaving a blank page.
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The skin could be easily adapted to Christmas and Halloween themes by using the files Simp2 Christmas.png and Halloween bg.png.
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What do you guys think of it? Any feedback is welcomed. Thanks for your time, --[[User:Simpsons88|Simpsons88]] ([[User talk:Simpsons88|talk]]) 14:49, March 22, 2021 (EDT)
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:Honestly, I feel that the current design we have looks cleaner and more modern. The cloud background was a product of its time. And it feels like there's too much going on with it. Plus, we'd most likely have to update templates and other stuff to make it all work properly. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 19:38, March 22, 2021 (EDT)
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== https://answers.simpsonswiki.com/ are not working ==
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Hello, I tried to ask a question at https://answers.simpsonswiki.com/ but I cannot see Anti-spam verification and the log in link also does not work. And my question was: Where to watch [[Maggie Sucks]] and [[Oscar-Nominated]]? If they deleted it on YouTube, is there another way? --[[User:Patriccck|Patriccck]] ([[User talk:Patriccck|talk]]) 15:10, August 4, 2022 (EDT)
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:Hello, we are aware of issues with the Answers site. I will investigate this weekend to see if I can get the login functionality working again. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. -[[User:Jake|<span style="color:#008000;font-weight:bold;">Ja</span>]][[User_talk:Jake|<span style="color:#E58900;font-weight:bold;">ke</span>]] 21:09, August 4, 2022 (EDT)

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Wiki discussion is the place where major discussions and decisions can be made. Larger discussions will have their own pages but smaller discussions will go here.

Linking policy

There are tons of episode/Quotes pages (see Category:Quotes) where linking differs from other pages:

  • character names in front of lines are all links instead of first occurence
  • no other links occur in the text

Is this normal? --2F13 (talk) 06:26, October 6, 2018 (EDT)

It should be first instance of a link gets linked, rather than every instance. If every instance has a link, they should be removed. The Solar Dragon 07:41, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
Yes I think so. I checked again a few random pages and I see that there are much less overlinked one I thought first. It is AleWi who has a different concept with links. I do not want to destroy his work unwisely. I left him a notice about this discussion. --2F13 (talk) 09:52, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
If it helps ... When I work on Quotes pages, I generally link a character's name in its first occurrence in a block of dialogue. A good example is Lisa the Vegetarian/Quotes. This can result in every character name, or almost character every name, being linked if the quotes page consists largely of one-liners. For that reason, plus the fact that having too many links tends to make a Quotes page look cluttered (IMO), when I build a Quotes page I try to avoid one-liners and instead have at least three or four lines in each block of dialogue. This can result in the block division being a bit arbitrary, as I may end up having to split the blocks wherever it "feels" right instead of going by hard-and-fast rules. An example of a Quotes page where I had to take that approach is The Man of the House/Quotes. That's probably more than you wanted to know about the art of building Quotes pages, but I hope it's helpful. -- Mythigator (talk) 11:05, October 6, 2018 (EDT)

Okay. It seems I may uniform the quotes pages. Decade ago I had a bot editing the big Wikipedia. I think it will be useful again after same facelifting. Are there any special policies with bots here? I think I need a new account in first step. --2F13 (talk) 05:22, October 22, 2018 (EDT)

Abbot's first function is almost ready. I just have a question before it starts to work. There is no style guide for quotes so I don't know if the colon after name should be bold. (Krusty: … vs Krusty: …). Do you have any preference? If not, I make bold colons. --2F13 (talk) 02:47, October 23, 2018 (EDT)

Yep, colons should be bold. The Solar Dragon 06:37, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
I guess constructions like this should be also changed:
Instructor [to Bart]: Since you've already attended public school…
to
Instructor: [to Bart] Since you've already attended public school…
BTW. What about a new template called qf (quote from) that could do indentation, and typesetting in ine step? {{qf|Instructor}} --2F13 (talk) 12:20, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
If you could figure out a way to make an easy to use template, that'll be great. The Solar Dragon 12:58, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
Here you are:
Instructor: [to Bart] Since you've already attended public school…
2F13 (talk) 06:09, November 3, 2018 (EDT)
Mythigator: [enthusiastically] I like it! -- Mythigator (talk) 14:48, November 3, 2018 (EDT)

Would you mind to have a sight on Abbot's first few edits? It does most of the tasks with Quotes pages. (A lot of things must be done manually even.) --2F13 (talk) 14:55, November 3, 2018 (EDT)

Wikisimpsons.css skin proposal

Sample page (full size)

Dear Wikisimpsons users,

For some days I've been using and improving a custom Wikisimpsons.css skin (shown in the picture). The wiki has been using the yellow theme for quite some time and I'm aware that color is part of its essence. I wanted, however, to try this new alternative which I found acceptable enough to make this proposal for an update of the wiki skin.

I would appreciate it if you could give it a try by copying this code and pasting it in User/wikisimpsons.css, and then surfing the wiki a little bit to check it out. You can return, of course, to the normal skin by deleting the pasted code and leaving a blank page.

The skin could be easily adapted to Christmas and Halloween themes by using the files Simp2 Christmas.png and Halloween bg.png.

What do you guys think of it? Any feedback is welcomed. Thanks for your time, --Simpsons88 (talk) 14:49, March 22, 2021 (EDT)

Honestly, I feel that the current design we have looks cleaner and more modern. The cloud background was a product of its time. And it feels like there's too much going on with it. Plus, we'd most likely have to update templates and other stuff to make it all work properly. The Solar Dragon 19:38, March 22, 2021 (EDT)

https://answers.simpsonswiki.com/ are not working

Hello, I tried to ask a question at https://answers.simpsonswiki.com/ but I cannot see Anti-spam verification and the log in link also does not work. And my question was: Where to watch Maggie Sucks and Oscar-Nominated? If they deleted it on YouTube, is there another way? --Patriccck (talk) 15:10, August 4, 2022 (EDT)

Hello, we are aware of issues with the Answers site. I will investigate this weekend to see if I can get the login functionality working again. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. -Jake 21:09, August 4, 2022 (EDT)