Wikisimpsons:Pages for deletion/Archive 2

Deletion discussions archive.

1 Mike's House and Al's Work
2 Dukans Campaign H.Q.
3 Garbageman
4 Martin's bike
5 Butler
6 Category:Original songs
7 First Ever Sled
8 Sunscreen
9 Potato Chips
10 Mouth Wash
11 Wooly Bully, Colour My World and I Want a New Drug
12 Moons Over Springfield
13 Apple Sauce
14 Guard dog
15 America's Most Armed and Dangerous office
16 Next Exit
17 Knitting grandmother
18 Evil grandma
19 Karl's Apartment
20 Ungrateful grandson
21 Nachos
22 Giant spider
23 Grilled Cheese owner
24 Square One
25 Creepy family's house
26 Black and white dog
27 Angry Nerds
28 Larry Snotter Book Law
29 Template:Kai Taschner
30 Freaky Family House
31 News reporter (Some Enchanted Evening)
32 TV Magazine
33 Norman Rockwell-esque family
34 Player 1 and Player 2
35 Research Center
36 Jebediah actor
37 Drummer
38 Guitarist
39 Coffee Shop (Life on the Fast Lane)
40 Hotel
41 Screaming woman
42 Eurythmics
43 Albert King
44 Nuclear waste
45 Ref
46 Uranium 235 rods
47 ATM bot
48 Holiday Resort
49 Transformer bots
50 Mrs. Claus
51 Angel waitress
52 Funeral Parlor
53 Long Island Iced Teas
54 Max Klinger
55 Mary Lou Retton
56 Arnold Horshack
57 Klinger, Horshack and Mary Lou
58 Can't get enough of that wonderful Duff
59 9789 asteroid

Mike's House and Al's Work[edit]

Two very minor locations that are neither specifically named or actually affect the episode. --Cook 8 7 9 18:13, 18 June 2012 (EDT)

Delete. Al works at the Power Plant anyways. >_> --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 00:17, 19 June 2012 (EDT)

Agreed, delete. Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 14:57, 20 June 2012 (EDT)

Delete. WebkinzMania 15:49, 20 June 2012 (EDT)

Dukans Campaign H.Q.[edit]

Stupid redirect. Totally unneeded. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 13:59, 19 June 2012 (EDT)

It's a redirect, but whatever. Delete. WebkinzMania 15:49, 20 June 2012 (EDT)

Delete--Cook 8 7 9 14:36, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

Garbageman[edit]

One sentence, no images, one appearance... WebkinzMania 15:49, 20 June 2012 (EDT)

Just because the article is poor doesn't mean it should be deleted. He was voiced by a guest star so we just need to improve on the article. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 15:55, 20 June 2012 (EDT)

Keep. Just needs a little spiffing up. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 17:03, 20 June 2012 (EDT)

Keep, just a very crappy written article.--Cook 8 7 9 14:36, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

Martin's bike[edit]

Just not notable. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 13:06, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

Agree --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 16:51, 24 June 2012 (EDT)

--Cook 8 7 9 16:47, 9 July 2012 (EDT)

Butler[edit]

Aside from the fact that he is a chauffeur not a butler, he is unnamed and non speaking. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 16:51, 24 June 2012 (EDT)

Delete. -- WebkinzManiaTalkContributionsEditcount 16:56, 24 June 2012 (EDT)

--Cook 8 7 9 16:47, 9 July 2012 (EDT)

Category:Original songs[edit]

Delete, Category:Songs have same contest. /AleWi 13:51, 25 June 2012 (EDT)

Keep. There are enough non-parody songs and non-original songs to warrant this category. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 14:01, 25 June 2012 (EDT)

Keep. "That's Amore" and "Hey, Brother, Pour the Wine" are two examples of the many non-original songs in this category.--Cook 8 7 9 15:49, 25 June 2012 (EDT)

First Ever Sled[edit]

Not notable, conjectural name, no impact on plot etc. Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 17:19, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

--Cook 8 7 9 16:47, 9 July 2012 (EDT)

Sunscreen[edit]

Normal product, nothing special. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 15:17, 6 July 2012 (EDT)

Agree --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 21:35, 6 July 2012 (EDT)

--Cook 8 7 9 16:47, 9 July 2012 (EDT)

Potato Chips[edit]

Per the other generic food stuffs. -- cjc 07:23, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

Agreed. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 07:32, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

Agree. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 10:21, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

Mouth Wash[edit]

Generic article is generic. Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 14:56, 12 July 2012 (EDT)

Propose future examples are speedy deleted. -- cjc 15:05, 12 July 2012 (EDT)

Agree. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 21:45, 12 July 2012 (EDT)

Wooly Bully, Colour My World and I Want a New Drug[edit]

All marked for deletion, due to against policy. However, I am no personally 100% behind the policy, especially with articles like this which are well written and detailed - notably these all occur "in-show" and characters hear it, and so you could argue not background music anyway.--Cook 8 7 9 16:47, 9 July 2012 (EDT)

The way I interpreted that policy was that background music was music that the characters couldn't actually hear, i.e. it's playing during the scene, but not in the scene. So, therefore it would be considered "out of universe", as compared to music that the characters are physically listening to, which is "in universe". There's my two-cents, anyway. (edit) Regardless of the outcome of this, I think the policy page could be a little more "descriptive" (can't think of a better word), so that this issue doesn't come up in the future. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 20:24, 9 July 2012 (EDT)

To me, background music is music that the characters don't sing, i.e. radios etc. I therefore say delete to these articles. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 01:20, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

See music production for the six types of music on the show. To me, source and "Broadway-style" music is in-universe, whereas underscore, scourse, montages and format cues are out-universe. Anyway I think any music article is just as noticeable as the many minor articles we have.--Cook 8 7 9 05:53, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

Well, this sort of thing should really be brought up elsewhere. Right now, they are against policy so should be deleted. If we want to give these songs articles, a discussion should be opened up and they can be restored if the discussion is passed. Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 07:34, 10 July 2012 (EDT)

Did "I Want a New Drug" have any lyrics or was it all instrumental? Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 04:13, 13 July 2012 (EDT)

It had lyrics. It was basically playing the song accompanied with the music video. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 12:40, 13 July 2012 (EDT)

If that's the case, the lyrics need to be added into the article and it will be notable for an article, in accordance with Wikisimpsons:Notability. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 13:27, 13 July 2012 (EDT)

Ok, I can do that. I won't be able to get to it until sunday, though. And, not to beat a dead horse, but "Wooly Bully" and Colour My World" did also have lyrics. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 23:40, 13 July 2012 (EDT)

Yeah, but those two songs weren't actually seen being played on the show, they were only heard and were not seen being played by characters but were merely songs played by the jukebox. The Solar Dragon 03:49, 14 July 2012 (EDT)

Moons Over Springfield[edit]

To me, this is not notable. It was only mentioned in Twitter and didn't we agree not to make articles on these? Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 13:44, 16 July 2012 (EDT)

Agree --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 22:01, 17 July 2012 (EDT)

Apple Sauce[edit]

Generic product. ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 05:03, 17 July 2012 (EDT)

Agree --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 22:01, 17 July 2012 (EDT)

Guard dog[edit]

Unnotable character. Not named and doesn't play that big a part in the episode. ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 18:10, 17 July 2012 (EDT)

Agree --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 22:01, 17 July 2012 (EDT)

America's Most Armed and Dangerous office[edit]

Unnamed, minor location. Does not deserve an article. Only one room seen. No impact on episode. The Solar Dragon 07:27, 21 July 2012 (EDT)

Agree. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 11:15, 21 July 2012 (EDT)

Next Exit[edit]

Not even a real name, it means the next exit, the road is not named Next Exit. Solar Dragon ^{(Talk • Contribs.)} 07:28, 21 July 2012 (EDT)

Agree. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 11:15, 21 July 2012 (EDT)

Agree as well. ~ Phinbart (talk • contribs) 11:27, 21 July 2012 (EDT)

Knitting grandmother[edit]

Unnamed, non-speaking character. The Solar Dragon ^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 15:48, 26 July 2012 (EDT)

Agree. --Nick97 ^{(talk ~ contribs)} 13:48, 28 July 2012 (EDT)

I have seen some one time characters being deleted here. I believe this place is about to provide as much info about the Simpsons as possible. I suggest to create one page dedicated to these one timers, instead of giving them their own, and delete them later. A rule would be to have an image, and a direct reference link, with in the image description. Characters like the evil grandma can just be described with in the game's page. This is just a suggestion to help with any kind of improvements.EximiusMx 04:39, 2 August 2012 (EDT)

What you are basically proposing is making an article to list each and every character in The Simpsons, even if they are unnotable. This page would not only be ridiculously long but would also have sections like "Passerby 1" to "Passerby 50" etc. There are many, many background characters in each episode and to make an article to list every single one would be impractical and just stupid. Also, I highly doubt anyone would want to see a list of all background and minor characters. The only exceptions we have to this rule are those recurring background characters from Springfield Elementary and we should not have any page listing others.

^{(Talk - Contribs.)} 06:46, 2 August 2012 (EDT)