Wikisimpsons talk:Non-canon
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Comics
I'm guessing comics are still considered canon? It is just that on the page Globex Corporation, they are under the non-canon section. ☆The Solar Dragon (Talk)☆ 06:39, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, unless they are THOH or stuff like that.--Sgtcook (My Talk Page) 17:08, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Most events in the comics are never mentioned in the show, and they sometimes contradict information in the shows. The producers never really addressed whether the comics are canon or not, but most fans consider canon as anything that happens in the series and the movie only. Ldude893 11:57, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
Rules
Proposed rules:
- Everything is considered canon except Treehouse of Horror, Bible Stories and other similar trilogy episodes.
- If another source contradicts an episode, the episode comes first. Before books etc.
- If a game has something non-canon about it, such as characters from Treehouse of horror in, it is non canon.
If we go by these rules, that can make everything work, I think. ☆The Solar Dragon (Talk)☆ 12:03, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable, though I really think the events in the comics are noncanon. Many of the stories are just impossible to occur in the show. Take Simpsons Comics #1 and #8 for example, these two comics involve a growth/shrinking ray, an object that generally falls into the category of Treehouse of Horror, except this isn't a Halloween comic. And Issue #33 involves the entire town switching roles with other characters due to an invention by Professor Frink going haywire, it's too unrealistic to occur in the show.
- What if we define "non-canon" as any Simpsons media outside the show or the movie that isn't referenced in the show or doesn't affect the show itself? (or if it's THOH, dream sequences, Bible Stories and other trilogy episodes) Ldude893 12:26, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
- I still think the comics should be considered canon as they are part of that sort of material. However, if any one else has any thoughts, please get them across. ☆The Solar Dragon (Talk)☆ 14:08, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
This List is Incomplete
There are still some entries not listed, including The Simpsons Hit and Run and "The Simpsons 138th Episode Spectacular". Should they be added? Ldude893 00:46, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Feel free. In fact, the whole page needs to be cleaned up a bit. ☆The Solar Dragon (Talk)☆ 07:07, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
Early Treehouse of Horror
Why are the first three Treehouse of Horror episodes included here? Weren't they written specifically so they would be canon episodes (Bart tells stories in the treehouse, everyone has nightmares, everyone tells stories in the living room). I propose that those three be specifically removed, and the episodes listed as canon, with a note on "the stories in" being non-canon, like Simpsons Bible Stories Simpsons Christmas Stories.--Tim Thomason 07:37, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Simpsons Bible Stories is not canon. They walked into Hell at the end! But, yeah, I see what you are on about there. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 07:40, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Good point. SBS should be "upgraded" on the list then, since the set-up story was also non-canon (unlike most non-Halloween anthology shows).--Tim Thomason 07:44, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, technically, all episodes are canon. It's just that TOHs and other three-story episodes don't follow the regular continuity of the show. And "That '90s Show" doesn't mix up the dates of The Simpsons any more than other flashback episodes. Maybe we should create a different tag for out-of-continuity episodes.Underfaker 08:10, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Good point. SBS should be "upgraded" on the list then, since the set-up story was also non-canon (unlike most non-Halloween anthology shows).--Tim Thomason 07:44, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
Dates
"Dates used to describe events in: That '90s Show" --Dates are never canon, right? They've been used since the early seasons sporadically, and are best ignored. That '90s Show should be just as canon as any other regular episode, and not specified in such a manner.--Tim Thomason 07:37, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed. --C Teng 23:54, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
Deleted scenes
Why are deleted scenes considered non canon? "Most of the episodes run long, and certain scenes never get aired" (Troy McClure at The Simpsons 138th Episode Spectacular). I would understand the alternate deleted scenes like in Who Shot Mr. Burns? (Part Two). Any thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by EximiusMx (talk • contribs) 03:50, 5 July 2012
- Deleted scenes are considered non-canon as they never actually appeared in an episode. Therefore, they are no part of canon as they were never properly released, except through DVDs. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 03:53, 5 July 2012 (EDT)
Contradiction
"Note that all Treehouse of Horror episodes, comic stories and video games are automatically non-canon." If that's the case, why does Wikisimpsons:Comic Canonicity exist? It's not needed if all comics are automatically non-canon. Digifiend 06:23, 14 February 2013 (EST)
- It probably means THOH comic stories. I'll make it more clear. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 06:31, 14 February 2013 (EST)
