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::::::If the full name is in the text, it is accurate info. The questions for article titles is a) what's the primary identity/name used for the character (especially with maiden names, which in many cases aren't counted unless the individual deliberately uses them), b) whether said names are consistent and sourced; what to do if a name is mentioned as a joke once and later a different middle or surname used, or with things like [[Selma Bouvier|Selma Bouvier's]] many surnames, not all of which were explained beyond the one-time joke; the talk page on Bart questions where "Jojo" came from and the only answer was "with creativity", c) what will new users be looking for, and finally d) *any* substantial change to the overall Wiki is worth discussing. Kingcjc seems to agree, so if there's a majority consensus, that's fine. Otherwise, it could cause potential disputes and editing wars and just confusion. -- [[User:Aleal|<font color="Blue">Andrew Leal</font>]] ([[User talk:Aleal|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 21:29, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 
::::::If the full name is in the text, it is accurate info. The questions for article titles is a) what's the primary identity/name used for the character (especially with maiden names, which in many cases aren't counted unless the individual deliberately uses them), b) whether said names are consistent and sourced; what to do if a name is mentioned as a joke once and later a different middle or surname used, or with things like [[Selma Bouvier|Selma Bouvier's]] many surnames, not all of which were explained beyond the one-time joke; the talk page on Bart questions where "Jojo" came from and the only answer was "with creativity", c) what will new users be looking for, and finally d) *any* substantial change to the overall Wiki is worth discussing. Kingcjc seems to agree, so if there's a majority consensus, that's fine. Otherwise, it could cause potential disputes and editing wars and just confusion. -- [[User:Aleal|<font color="Blue">Andrew Leal</font>]] ([[User talk:Aleal|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 21:29, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
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:::::::well thats not wat i meant i agree with sgtcook I know him well and he has good intentions for the redirection [[User:Kingcjc|Kingcjc]] 21:32, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

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Hey, just de-redlinking your name :·) —Scott (talk) 01:01, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

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yeah but its just redirecting it to more precise information Sgtcook 21:06, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

That's the problem, though. As a redirect, that's a great idea. As the main page, it's problematic, especially when you get into maiden names and such. Casual users will look for Marge Simpson, not Marjorie Bouvier Simpson, and for that matter writers, voice actors, critics etc. use Marge Simpson or Marge; the change creates double redirects which need to be fixed and in general can be disorienting. Either way, while I know this isn't the most active community at present, it's a major alteration which should really be discussed. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 21:10, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
confused anyway i fixed double redirections by searching things like Marge Bouvier which redirected to Marge Simpson and changed it to Marjorie Bouvier Simpson


Yeah, that helps. I don't want to sound discouraging, but I *really* think this needs to be discussed in Current events or somewhere before you do the same for any more major characters, i.e. moving Bart Simpson to Bartholemew "Bart" Jojo Simpson and so on. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 21:21, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
But if Bart SImpson is redirected it will be a)More Accurate and b)Also remain the same information. Kingcjc 21:25, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
one last thing don't we want to give accurate info Sgtcook 21:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
If the full name is in the text, it is accurate info. The questions for article titles is a) what's the primary identity/name used for the character (especially with maiden names, which in many cases aren't counted unless the individual deliberately uses them), b) whether said names are consistent and sourced; what to do if a name is mentioned as a joke once and later a different middle or surname used, or with things like Selma Bouvier's many surnames, not all of which were explained beyond the one-time joke; the talk page on Bart questions where "Jojo" came from and the only answer was "with creativity", c) what will new users be looking for, and finally d) *any* substantial change to the overall Wiki is worth discussing. Kingcjc seems to agree, so if there's a majority consensus, that's fine. Otherwise, it could cause potential disputes and editing wars and just confusion. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 21:29, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
well thats not wat i meant i agree with sgtcook I know him well and he has good intentions for the redirection Kingcjc 21:32, 13 December 2007 (UTC)