Wikisimpsons:Editor meetings/September 10th
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[20:12] <Doh5678> Meeting to order anyways [20:12] <Phinbart> New template design. [20:12] <Cook879> Mobile users are the problem... [20:12] <Doh5678> Everyone like ie? [20:12] <Phinbart> I like it, but it would cause problems with mobile users.... [20:12] <Doh5678> *it [20:13] <Doh5678> How do we get round this? [20:13] <Cook879> Also where would they go on the page? Only just thought of that [20:13] <Doh5678> Top left [20:13] <Phinbart> Maybe it could be different on mobiles.....there could be a caption of the image instead of hovering. [20:13] <Phinbart> BRB [20:14] <Doh5678> But how? [20:14] <Cook879> we'd have to see them in action i think [20:14] <Cook879> that would go back to the whole "mobile app" problem from yesterday [20:14] <Doh5678> trial run maybe [20:14] <Phinbart> Problem? [20:14] <Cook879> if so, select pages only [20:14] <Cook879> you'd probably have to update both seperatly [20:14] <Cook879> wikipedia has an app right? How do they work? [20:15] <Phinbart> Doh, good idea to ask Jake to come to the meeting, he hasn't been.... [20:15] <Phinbart> Someone could create an app for Wikisimpsons!] [20:15] <AleWi> Wapedia is not owned by Wikipedia [20:15] <Doh5678> They have loads of people/ massive server [20:15] <Cook879> i think an app is really too much for us to implement [20:16] <Doh5678> We don't have loads of people/ massive server [20:16] <Phinbart> Where's cjc, FatHomer and the other users that are usually here? [20:16] <Cook879> cjc is in his bedroom, Fathomer no idea [20:16] <Doh5678> That Phinbart is a mystery of life [20:17] <Phinbart> Maybe a Simpsons app, where you can go to different Simpsons sites from links.... [20:17] <Doh5678> Can't you shout to him to go online [20:17] <Phinbart> Is your brother going to come to the meeting, Cook? [20:17] <Cook879> we'd need to find partners for that app, and someone to make it - lots of work [20:18] <Cook879> he said he's busy at the moment [20:18] <Doh5678> And also which phone we're going to do it on? [20:19] <AleWi> I can not do this [20:19] <Doh5678> I can't either [20:19] <Cook879> another problem [20:19] <Cook879> this is never going to work [20:19] <Cook879> so i say topic two [20:19] <Doh5678> Discussion about projects [20:19] <Phinbart> Discussion about projects [20:20] <Phinbart> You got it before me, Doh! [20:20] <Cook879> brb [20:20] * cjc (~chatzilla@cpc1-slou2-2-0-cust202.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #wikisimpsons [20:20] <Doh5678> Hi cjc [20:20] <AleWi> hi cjc [20:20] <AleWi> Right now is probably only Project Re-Watch Active [20:20] <Phinbart> Hi cjc! [20:20] <Doh5678> When projects should be active/inactive [20:21] <cjc> hi [20:21] <cjc> inactive when nothing is happening related to them.... [20:21] <Doh5678> So when should projects should be active/inactive [20:21] <Phinbart> Dunno really. [20:21] <AleWi> If no task is currently taking place there [20:22] <Doh5678> More importantly which ones [20:22] <Phinbart> Nearly all the projects have no tasks. [20:22] <Phinbart> Advertising projects more [20:22] <Doh5678> Characters in season [20:23] <AleWi> Comics from the collection editions? [20:23] <Phinbart> Project Episodes should be semi-active in the summer, when there's hardly any news on new eps. [20:23] <Doh5678> locations, Guest Stars ...... [20:24] <Phinbart> Guest Stars should stay active in the summer..... [20:24] <Phinbart> Locations semi-active.... [20:24] <Cook879> back [20:24] <Phinbart> ? [20:24] <Phinbart> So how should we advertise projects more....? [20:24] <Doh5678> Active all the time: Merchandise, Images, Crew [20:24] <Cook879> I think projects are a hard sell [20:24] <Doh5678> & Games [20:25] <Doh5678> BRB [20:25] <Phinbart> Well, is there any news of a new Simpsons video game coming out.....? [20:25] <Cook879> I do what i feel like doing, instead of going by what projects say [20:25] <Cook879> not that i've heard [20:25] <Phinbart> No....so Games should be semi-active....until a new game comes out or is announced. [20:25] <AleWi> No new game I have read about [20:25] <Cook879> but we have a big backlog [20:26] * Nick97 (4495f152@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.149.241.82) has joined #wikisimpsons [20:26] <AleWi> Hi Nick97 [20:26] <Phinbart> Well, I've spent the afternoon looking through Hit & Run walkthroughs for articles to create. [20:26] <Phinbart> Hi Nick97! [20:26] <Nick97> Hi, everybody [20:26] <Cook879> hey Nick97 [20:27] <Doh5678> Hi <s>Dr</s> Nick97 [20:27] <AleWi> Many older games do not have many information [20:27] <Phinbart> So, I think Hit & Run articles are off the list.... [20:28] <Doh5678> Wikipedia has some Good Articles on old Simpsons games [20:28] <Phinbart> New topic? [20:28] <Phinbart> Project Merchandise & User:Phinbart/List of The Simpsons merchandise [20:28] <Doh5678> Everyone like it? [20:28] <Phinbart> So, what does everyone think about Project Merchandise? [20:28] <AleWi> I like it [20:29] <Phinbart> About User:Phinbart/List of The Simpsons merchandise, it really needs help.... [20:29] <Phinbart> By the way, if anyone's using ChatZilla, :P, will be a smilie. [20:29] <Doh5678> It will perpetually be incomplete [20:30] <Cook879> It's a hard list - it really needs to be split and in main space - then it will become more appealling to edit [20:30] <AleWi> I like at the covers is showing [20:31] <Phinbart> That's the only section I've put into a table. [20:31] <Doh5678> Yeah that's good [20:31] <AleWi> Maybe is should be on http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Simpsons_Comics too [20:31] <Phinbart> By the way, I've got the Meltdown reprint book....just waiting for Royale to arrive... [20:32] <Cook879> please can i have a link to your list Phinbart [20:32] <AleWi> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:Phinbart/List_of_The_Simpsons_merchandise [20:32] <Phinbart> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:Phinbart/List_of_The_Simpsons_merchandise [20:32] <Doh5678> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:Phinbart/List_of_The_Simpsons_merchandise [20:32] <Cook879> thanks [20:32] <AleWi> I recently ordered Simpson Annual 2012, Bart Simpson Annual 2012 and the new Treehouse of Horror-comic books [20:33] <Doh5678> Good, can you write article on em' when you get 'em [20:33] <Phinbart> My local Smyths superstore has lots of annuals, last year it had the Simpsons annual, so I'll be able to get the 2012 annuals from there. [20:34] <Phinbart> New topic? [20:34] <Phinbart> A merchandise wiki? [20:34] <Cook879> Phinbart - off topic but you do now Hit & Run is non-canon right? [20:34] <Cook879> *know [20:34] <Doh5678> It could be a good idea [20:35] <Cook879> on topic - Supergeeky is willing to help if we do go ahead [20:35] <Doh5678> Simpsons question on Secret Fortune [20:35] <Phinbart> Yes, sorry, I forgot to add the non-canon template. [20:35] <Cook879> :P [20:35] <AleWi> A bit unnecessary we should have collected all at the same [20:35] <Phinbart> Supergeeky1 has Simpsons band-aids. [20:35] <Phinbart> What was the question? [20:35] <Doh5678> The merchandise wiki will be a lot more detailed [20:36] <Phinbart> Which of these Simpsons characters had appeared the fewest in 2010? [20:36] <Doh5678> Which of these Simpsons characters ha [20:36] <Phinbart> What was the answer? [20:36] <Doh5678> you've done it for me [20:36] <Doh5678> They said Chief wiggum [20:37] <Doh5678> he appeared in the second most episodes [20:37] <Cook879> were there options [20:37] <Phinbart> Right....hopefully someone recorded that and will put it on YouTube....or it's on iPlayer. [20:38] <Doh5678> Getting back on topic, I was about to say [20:38] <Phinbart> Now an Only Fools and & Horses. [20:38] <Doh5678> It's on Iplayer [20:38] <Doh5678> Getting back on topic [20:38] <Phinbart> Cut that bit, Cook879. [20:38] <Doh5678> So everyone like the idea of the wiki? [20:39] <Phinbart> Yes, but we'll wait for Solar's opinion. [20:39] <Cook879> Make a topic on the forums, continue discussion there [20:39] <Doh5678> AleWi, cjc Nick97 any opionions [20:40] <Phinbart> Don't think Secret Fortune's on Iplayer, Doh.... [20:40] <cjc> on what? [20:40] <cjc> I haven't been paying attention [20:40] <Doh5678> A merchandise wiki [20:40] <Phinbart> Search "Secret Fortune" on iPlayer, there's only the live version of tonight's ep..... [20:41] <Phinbart> So, next topic. [20:41] <Doh5678> A bit after the show [20:41] <Phinbart> Pages for deletion. [20:41] <Doh5678> Wikisimpsons:Pages for deletion [20:41] <Phinbart> What bit after the show? [20:42] * AleWi (53fb44c5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.251.68.197) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [20:42] <cjc> you vote on stuff, then delete if its voted to be deleted [20:42] <Phinbart> No....wait....Merchandise award [20:42] <Phinbart> Just refreshed. [20:42] <Doh5678> Everyone like it [20:42] <Doh5678> ? [20:42] * AleWi (53fb44c5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.251.68.197) has joined #wikisimpsons [20:42] <Nick97> I like it. [20:42] <AleWi> My browser crash [20:43] <Phinbart> Winner announced on Monday.... [20:43] <Cook879> would help if other people contirbuted to deletion discussion [20:43] <Doh5678> So get editing! [20:43] <Cook879> what topic are we on? [20:43] <Phinbart> BRB, adding Cook879's edits to the merchandise award contribs..... [20:43] <Phinbart> Merchandise award. [20:43] <Doh5678> merchandise award [20:43] <Cook879> My edits? What merc edits have I done? [20:43] <Cook879> ok, i'll come back to that when we move on [20:44] <Doh5678> Why do you not allow article creations [20:44] <Doh5678> ? [20:45] <Phinbart> Cause I can't link the diff.. [20:46] <Cook879> i'm saw you can [20:46] <Cook879> *sure [20:46] <Cook879> Try Permanent link in the toolbox - should give you a copy [20:48] <Doh5678> Next topic then [20:48] <AleWi> It feels a little cheat to get points for a small change [20:48] <Cook879> it is an odd thing to do [20:48] <Doh5678> Good point [20:50] <Cook879> my small fixes shouldn't give me points - or if you want to do that at least give more points to those who do more work, like 5 for new article/major overhaul, and scale down [20:51] <Doh5678> Next topic: Wikisimpsons:Pages for deletion [20:52] <Cook879> As i said, it would help if others discussed, or then i might as well just deleted them straight away [20:52] <AleWi> If there is one great article, maybe we can discuss [20:52] <Doh5678> It prettty unpopular [20:52] <AleWi> If there is one great article, maybe we can discuss [20:52] <Cook879> wait, shouldn't we let Phinbart get bck on the whole voting thing [20:52] <AleWi> However, it has not happened while I was here [20:53] <Phinbart> What voting thing? [20:53] <Cook879> about minor edits getting points/the same amount as major edits [20:53] <Cook879> kinda unfair [20:53] <Doh5678> merchandise award [20:55] <Doh5678> Phinbart, HELLO [20:55] <Phinbart> Can we just do like.....this for this week....and then I'll focus on more adding merchandise info to article next week. It's the trial run. [20:56] <Cook879> Also why do the game pages count? They would come under Project: Games [20:57] <Phinbart> They're still merchandise.... [20:57] <Phinbart> AleWi, is this for my merchandise page....http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:AleWi/Comics? [20:57] <Doh5678> But it already has a project [20:57] <Cook879> but the stuff in the game should come under Project Games [20:58] <Cook879> if its an edit to the Game page itself, maybe, but not the contents [20:58] <AleWi> It is perhaps a new http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Simpsons_Comics [20:58] <Phinbart> Just for this week..... [20:58] <Phinbart> please! [20:58] <Doh5678> OK [20:58] <Doh5678> but next week [20:58] <Cook879> ok, but next week it could do with some tweaking [20:59] <Doh5678> Next topic: Wikisimpsons:Pages for deletion [20:59] <Phinbart> Game page, no template adding, no category adding... [20:59] <Doh5678> no minor edits [20:59] <Cook879> new articles [21:00] <Doh5678> Next topic: Wikisimpsons:Pages for deletion [21:00] <Cook879> so back to deletions, for what must be the third time [21:00] <Doh5678> for the 4th time [21:00] <Cook879> ok foruth :P [21:01] <Doh5678> *fourth [21:01] <Phinbart> How about we move onto the forum topic. [21:01] <Cook879> Anyway the only problem is it will be underused [21:01] <Cook879> we should get this one done first [21:02] <Doh5678> If we modify the delete template [21:02] <Phinbart> Don't delete http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/List_of_electrical_products , I need time to add the other electrical items first.... [21:02] <Cook879> I think it will work, but wheter it will be used or notis up to the rest of the users - only me and you have commented [21:02] <Cook879> well post on the discussion Phinbart - that's why its there [21:03] <Doh5678> Go to PfD [21:04] <Doh5678> Ok then: Next topic [21:04] <Phinbart> Don't matter. Added items to my list. [21:04] <Cook879> but still, you should have your say - you are in charge of merchandise and its one of the pages [21:05] <cjc> Is the merchandise a seperate wiki? [21:05] <Phinbart> No, delete. [21:05] <Doh5678> Not yet [21:05] <cjc> Can't you just cross-wiki redirect it? [21:05] <Phinbart> cjc, there is no merchandise wiki yet, someone will open a topic on the forums. [21:05] * Cook879 thinks the head of project merchandise should do it [21:06] <Doh5678> Which brings us on to our next topic [21:06] <Phinbart> I'll ask Solar if he comes on later. [21:06] * Doh5678 wishses we could just go on to the next topic [21:07] <Phinbart> Forum [21:07] <Doh5678> LOOOOOOOOOOOADS of spam [21:07] <Cook879> yep - report it until Jake finds a fix [21:07] <Doh5678> Any new spam? [21:07] <Cook879> "Yeah, thanks for reporting those posts. It makes it a lot easier for us to remove them. I'm currently looking into a way to cut down the amount of forum spam, as apparently email verification isn't good enough. I should have it up and running soon!" [21:08] <Cook879> Maybe it is - haven't seen any spam today [21:09] <AleWi> Wonder how they found the forum, [21:09] <Phinbart> For a few days the forum has been spam-free. [21:09] <Doh5678> It is the internet [21:10] <Doh5678> Maybe it's Simpsons Wikia [21:10] <Cook879> not a few days - it was loaded yesterday [21:10] <Cook879> unlikely [21:10] <Doh5678> Y? [21:10] <Phinbart> Y? [21:10] <Cook879> most likely spam bots spamming [21:10] <Cook879> Y? as they don't seem to have many active users/probably don't keep track of us [21:10] <Phinbart> From Simpsons Fanon and our wiki. [21:11] <Phinbart> Remember the spam bot attack. [21:11] <Phinbart> We should put it on the news section of the September newsletter. [21:11] <Doh5678> Done that [21:11] <Phinbart> The FORUM spam attack. [21:12] <Doh5678> You do it [21:12] <Doh5678> I cBA [21:13] <Doh5678> Next topic then [21:14] <Doh5678> How minor is minor? [21:15] <Cook879> Well, i think speaking roles should be added to notability, as they are all featured in the later books [21:16] <AleWi> I think as Cook879, and mentioned [21:16] <Doh5678> What about non speaking ones [21:16] <AleWi> if they are named [21:16] <Cook879> According to Wikisimpsons:notability all named characters get a page [21:17] <Doh5678> So mentioned ones get a page as well [21:17] <AleWi> Right now: http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Category:Mentioned_characters [21:17] <Cook879> Named characters, no matter how minor, should have an article. [21:17] <Cook879> Unnamed characters who play a decent part in an episode should have an article. [21:17] <Cook879> Unnamed recurring characters should have an article. [21:17] <Cook879> Named mentioned characters should have an article [21:17] <Cook879> from http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Wikisimpsons:Notability [21:18] <Cook879> i think speaking roles should be added [21:18] <Doh5678> What about only voice heard? [21:19] <Phinbart> Unnamed non-speaking shouldn't have articles. [21:19] <Cook879> that's a speaking role [21:19] <Doh5678> Unamed though [21:19] <Cook879> well we already have articles like "cookie saleswoman" [21:20] <Doh5678> Was she seen? [21:20] <Nick97> So, would characters like Bart's unnamed clssmates get article? They are recurring. [21:20] <Cook879> Probably [21:20] <Phinbart> Hmm....the 2nd part of "Red or Black?" is starting 5 mins late. [21:20] <AleWi> Yes [21:20] <Cook879> Nick97 - yes [21:21] <Nick97> Ok. I can create those articles later then. [21:21] <Doh5678> Thanks [21:21] <Cook879> cool [21:22] <Doh5678> Next topic: "Complete/FatHomer"? [21:22] <AleWi> I do not know what it means [21:22] <Nick97> What exactly is that topic about? [21:22] <Cook879> Well we need Fathomer to discuss that - delay to next meeting [21:22] <Cook879> I guess one of his subpages [21:23] <Doh5678> What the F*** is it about? [21:23] <Phinbart> When will the next meeting be? [21:23] <Phinbart> Next Saturday, 17th? [21:23] <Doh5678> 24th September [21:23] <Phinbart> Why 24th? [21:23] <Doh5678> Anniversary [21:24] <Cook879> plus weekly is too often - not as much to discuss [21:24] <Phinbart> Why can't we have a meeting on the 17th.... [21:24] <AleWi> Not next week, for short time [21:24] <Doh5678> [21:24] <Cook879> plus weekly is too often - not as much to discuss [21:24] <AleWi> 24th is the day before the season premiere in the U.S.. [21:25] <Doh5678> So a good time then [21:25] <Phinbart> How about we'll see how many topics are added before Friday, and if there's not a lot of topics in the topic section, then we could move it to the 24th. [21:25] <Doh5678> Everyone like 24th September? [21:25] <Phinbart> Yeah, fine.... [21:25] <Cook879> so we can see who plans to do what after premiere, i.e. appearances, credits, e.t.c [21:26] <Cook879> yeah - i'll be here whatever] [21:27] <Doh5678> AleWi, cjc, Nick97: 24th September OK? [21:27] <Nick97> 24th is fine [21:27] <AleWi> Is okey [21:27] <cjc> um..i dont think that far ahead [21:27] <cjc> but whatever, doesn't matter much [21:27] <Doh5678> OK then meeting formally disbanded
