User talk:Jack Phoenix

Welcome!

Hello, Jack Phoenix, and welcome to Wikisimpsons!

Thank you for your edits to the MediaWiki:Common.js article and taking interest in our wiki. If you have any troubles, feel free to ask questions on my talk page or any other any experienced editors' talk page. Also, you could look at a help page.

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Again, welcome! ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 08:16, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, red link was annoying me. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 08:16, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Social tool and comment logging

Hi, could you enable both of these please? Also, is there a way to make it auto go to your wiki user page instead of the social page with the social tool?

Oh, and I sent an email through Special:Contact asking about you installing an extension, WhosOnline. Could you do this?

Thanks, ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 22:27, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I've enabled logging for Comments extension and social tools package. The user levels and the required points are using the defaults (i.e. if you have 1,200 points, your rank is apprentice; uploading your first avatar earns you 100 points, a mainspace edit earns you 50 points, only main NS edits can earn you points and so on). Please let me know what ranks are more suitable for Wikisimpsons and I'll be happy to customize them for you.

If you need any help in using the social tools, feel free to take a look at the help page and ask me. The sad truth is that despite the amount of sites using the SocialProfile extension, how to use them (i.e. how to create new gifts and/or awards and so on) is largely undocumented. I'll be happy to help you out should you need any help.

I don't think that there's a way to make it automatically go to your wiki user page as the choice between wiki/social user page is a per-user choice.

Regarding WhosOnline, that will unfortunately need to wait until next week, I'm afraid. I recall reading your contact message, but I probably forgot to answer to it — sorry about that! I prefer wiki talk pages for non-super-secret stuff so that I'll get notified if I'm about to forget important stuff. Or better yet, sometimes someone else might be a lot helpful and faster in answering a question than I. ;-) --Jack Phoenix <staff/> _(contact) 23:23, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Can you change the names of the user levels to something more Simpsons-like then? Thanks, ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 06:25, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Could you also explain to me on how to create new awards and gifts as well please? ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 07:14, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

I can change the user levels if you provide me the new user levels and required points, preferrably in this format (for better readbility).

New awards (or as they're called internally in the extension, "system gifts") can be created by going to Special:SystemGiftManager (requires the 'awardsmanage' permission, which administrators by default have). Click on the "+ Add new gift" link and you'll be presented with a form to create a new gift. "Gift name" is the name of the gift; something like "5 friends milestone", for example. "Description" is a short description about the gift and how one is able to get it (for example, "For making 5 friends"). "Gift type" is one of the following:

edit — normal mainspace editing on the wiki (or to be exact, editing any namespace in $wgNamespacesForEditPoints)
vote — voting; requires the Vote extension
comment — commenting (Comments extension)
comment_plus — giving thumbs up to other users' comments
opinions_created — not available
opinions_pub — not available
referral_complete — referring other users to the wiki (if you want to give out points for referring other users to this wiki, this needs to be separately enabled — let me know)
friend — friending other users
foe — foeing other users
challenges_won — not available
gift_rec — receiving gifts from other users
points_winner_weekly — not available
points_winner_monthly — not available
quiz_points — not yet available, related to the social Quiz extension

"Threshold" is the threshold which a user must pass to get the award. For example, if you created an award with gift type "edit" and threshold "10", it would mean that the user needs 10 (mainspace) edits to get it. Or an award with type gift_rec and threshold of 5 would mean that the user needs to receive 5 gifts from other users to get the award.
After you've filled out all the fields, press the "Create gift" button and your gift will be created. Now you will also be able to upload an image for the new award you created. (SocialProfile extension ships with a bunch of award images; if you don't want to create your own images for each award, feel free to use those)

Creating ordinary gifts is very similar to creating awards and it's done through Special:GiftManager. The form for adding a new gift has only two fields this time, for the name and the description of the gift. Once you've filled those out, press the "Create gift" button and the gift will be created and you'll be able to upload an image for the gift. Normal gifts can be given out to other users via Special:GiveGift or by going to the user's profile page and clicking on the "Send a gift" link.

If you need any further help or encounter problems, please don't hesitate to contact me! --Jack Phoenix <staff/> _(contact) 13:10, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

OK then. We have an award system called the Golden Homer Award on both Simpsons wikis. How would we go ahead giving points out if a user wins these? Or can't we?

I will get back to you with the names of the new levels once we discuss it. Thanks, ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 07:22, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I think that it's not possible to give out points if a user wins the Golden Homer Award. It's certainly an interesting idea, though. (Theoretically it would be possible to give out a certain amount of points to the user who has the most points for a week/month, but I haven't gotten that feature working yet.) --Jack Phoenix <staff/> _(contact) 14:28, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Pages messing up

Hi. Jedimca0 said when pages move from Wikia, their histories could clutter up if they already exist here. Does that include templates, user pages, mediawiki pages and the main page? — ^TheHomer ^{(Talk • Contributions)} 18:30, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, yes, it's certainly possible. For example, let's say that the last edit to Wikisimpsons' main page on Wikia was on April 1, 2010. The last edit to the main page over here could've been on November 1, 2010 (for example's sake). The main page over here has two revisions (again, just an example); when the content from the old wiki is imported here, the main page would show the newest version — the November 1 version — even if it were nothing but the default main page.

My suggestion would be to focus on new content that doesn't exist over at the old wiki — by next Wednesday you've already been editing for many days! ;-) --Jack Phoenix <staff/> _(contact) 18:49, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

OK, then we'll have to delete all templates that were moved manually from Wikia (a user wanted to help out the move), since they are here and at Wikia. — ^TheHomer ^{(Talk • Contributions)} 19:14, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Move

Since the new server is up, when will we be moving? Sorry if I sound impatient. Thanks, ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 09:14, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

We're working on Wikisimpsons import at this very moment. --Jack Phoenix <staff/> _(contact) 19:22, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Edit count

Hi, for some reason, my edit count hasn't moved over. Is this to do with me being the founder here or something?

Thanks, ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 07:32, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I've ran initEditCount maintenance script, it should have helped. According to Special:Editcount/Solar Dragon, you have 15,064 total edits. --Jack Phoenix <staff/> _(contact) 12:45, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 17:41, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Thumbs and comment logging

Hi. I've noticed that the outside area of image thumbs is white, not light yellow like the whole page. Also, comment logging doesn't seem to be working. Could you please fix them? — ^TheHomer ^{(Talk • Contributions)} 17:44, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Comment logging just worked. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 17:46, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Done. --Jack Phoenix <staff/> _(contact) 18:35, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

User Level names

Ok, I have been given a suggestion which I think we should do. Could you change the levels to these:

0 -> Recruit -> Gil Gunderson
1,200 -> Apprentice -> Cletus Spuckler
1,750 -> Private -> Barney Gumble
2,500 -> Corporal -> Moe Szyslak
5,000 -> Sergeant -> Bart Simpson
10,000 -> Gunnery Sergeant -> Homer Simpson
20,000 -> Lieutenant -> Seymour Skinner
35,000 -> Captain -> Abraham Simpson
1,000,000+ -> General of the Army -> Mr. Burns

Thanks, ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 18:58, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Misza has done these changes and the user levels not listed here were removed. --Jack Phoenix <staff/> _(contact) 19:06, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

OK, thanks. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 19:09, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Personalised signature problem

There's a problem as I cannot use my custom made signature as an official signature. A message reading "Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags." keeps appearing when I have "Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)" checked. Here is the code;

[[User:NGMan62|<span style="plainlink" title = "Select to access NGMan62's homepage."> <span style="background-  color:black;padding:3px;color:yellow;-moz-border-radius-topleft:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px;border-top:thin solidyellow;borderbottom:thin solid yellow;border-left:thin solid yellow;border-right:thin solid yellow;font-family:Rondalo;">NGMan62</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:NGMan62|<span style="plainlink" title = "Select if you want to talk to NGMan62."><span style="color:black;background-color:yellow;padding:2px;border-top:thin solid yellow;border-bottom:thin solid yellow;border-left:thin solid yellow;border-right:thin solid yellow;font-size:9pt;font-family:Rondalo;">Talk</span></span>]][[Special:Contributions/NGMan62|<span style="plainlink" title = "Select to view NGMan62's contributions."><span style="color:black;background-color:transparent;padding:2px;-moz-border-radius-topright:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px;border-top:thin solid yellow;border-bottom:thin solid yellow;border-left:thin solid yellow;border-right:thin solid yellow;font-size:9pt;font-family:Rondalo;">Contributions</span></span>]] </sup>

It seems to be fine as it appears in its normal form when viewed anywhere. So, what's the problem?--NGMan62 12:20, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Can I be the first one to say that...uh...it's kinda long? :-) Anyway, just because it looks fine doesn't mean that it's fine. The first span tag (the one with title="Select to access NGMan62's homepage") is not closed. Try this:

[[User:NGMan62|<span style="plainlink" title="Select to access NGMan62's homepage."> <span style="background-color:black;padding:3px;color:yellow;-moz-border-radius-topleft:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px;border-top:thin solidyellow;borderbottom:thin solid yellow;border-left:thin solid yellow;border-right:thin solid yellow;font-family:Rondalo;">NGMan62</span></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:NGMan62|<span style="plainlink" title="Select if you want to talk to NGMan62."><span style="color:black;background-color:yellow;padding:2px;border-top:thin solid yellow;border-bottom:thin solid yellow;border-left:thin solid yellow;border-right:thin solid yellow;font-size:9pt;font-family:Rondalo;">Talk</span></span>]][[Special:Contributions/NGMan62|<span style="plainlink" title="Select to view NGMan62's contributions."><span style="color:black;background-color:transparent;padding:2px;-moz-border-radius-topright:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px;border-top:thin solid yellow;border-bottom:thin solid yellow;border-left:thin solid yellow;border-right:thin solid yellow;font-size:9pt;font-family:Rondalo;">Contributions</span></span>]] </sup>

By the way, the style attribute is used for stuff like color, background color and such; style="plainlink" is just plain invalid CSS. It's class="plainlinks" and it's normally used to hide the external link icon from external links; you won't need the plainlinks class for normal wiki links. Hope this helps. --Jack Phoenix <staff/> _(contact) 11:50, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

I've realized that the code is too long and becomes incomplete when made as a signature. How could it be made shorter or should I make another signature or what?--NGMan62 14:24, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

What you could do then is make a template. Copy the code into User:NGMan62/Signature. Then, in the box, put {{subst:User:NGMan62/Signature}}. You will however have to add the signature page to every wiki you sign on. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 14:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

It works but two hyphens show up before the signature. Are they standard since some signatures like yours don't have them? -- NGMan62 ^{TalkContributions} 15:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)