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Wikisimpsons:Editor meetings/May 26th 2012

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(20:10:05)	Randomno	Okay, now.
(20:10:05)	Phinbart	I think it was sorting out the navboxes to fit them into the look of the wiki.
(20:10:16)	Randomno	Meeting's started...
(20:10:24)	Randomno	Okay, topic #1.
(20:10:42)	Randomno	Cancelling Randomno's proposal (below) to cancel the outcome of May 7th's meeting. Most of these topics have been brought up three times now.
(20:10:56)	Phinbart	Yes.
(20:11:09)	AleWi|ESC	Yes
(20:11:11)	Phinbart	Let's revert to the list that was there before the (failed) May 5 meeting.
(20:11:19)	Randomno	The last meeting was absolutely screwy.
(20:11:26)	AleWi|ESC	No
(20:11:33)	Mythigator	Abstain -- I don't know what was there.
(20:11:46)	Nick97	Abstain, same reason as Myth
(20:11:50)	Randomno	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Wikisimpsons:Editor_meetings/May_7th_2012 This was the last discussion.
(20:11:59)	Phinbart	Did You Know? section during the summer Framegrabs Framegrab wiki Should we keep framegrabs? Capitlization of a, am, an, and, are, as, at, be, by, for, if, in, is, it, of, on, or, so, the, to and with. Dictionary wiki. Points to discuss: Easier to find; half of our viewers probably don't know we have a dictionary. A name like "Simptionary" or something, otherwise we'd have to call it "the dictionary namespace".
(20:12:00)	Randomno	Two people there.
(20:12:05)	Phinbart	And more...
(20:12:07)	AleWi|ESC	"Most of these topics have been brought up three times now."
(20:12:14)	Randomno	Twice.
(20:12:17)	Phinbart	Well, WE'RE NOT HAVING FRAMEGRABS!
(20:12:26)	Randomno	Yes, we know that.
(20:12:31)	Phinbart	Even though I thought we could do them for the shorts only.
(20:12:34)	Randomno	The first bits were discussed.
(20:12:50)	Phinbart	Did we agree on that Did You Know? thing? I can't remember.
(20:12:51)	Randomno	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Wikisimpsons:Editor_meetings/May_5th_2012 Everything there stays.
(20:13:49)	Phinbart	Oh, we were supposed to open a wiki discussion.
(20:14:12)	Randomno	Okay, great.
(20:14:28)	Phinbart	Well, Did You Know?'s a bit of a stupid idea now.
(20:14:37)	Phinbart	"The Longest Daycare" is listed on Upcoming Episode
(20:14:42)	Randomno	Phinbart, AleWi, by "yes", do you mean cancel or keep proposal.
(20:14:58)	AleWi|ESC	Cancelling Randomno's proposal (below) to cancel the outcome of May 7th's meeting. Most of these topics have been brought up three times now.
(20:15:08)	AleWi|ESC	was the question
(20:15:08)	Randomno	^*?
(20:15:10)	AleWi|ESC	so yes
(20:15:21)	AleWi|ESC	cancel
(20:15:23)	Phinbart	Erm...
(20:15:29)	Phinbart	Cancel?
(20:15:32)	Randomno	
(20:15:46)	Randomno	You honestly think May 7's discussion was good?
(20:15:47)	WebkinzMania	cancel
(20:15:59)	Phinbart	I wasn't even there on May 7
(20:16:03)	Randomno	I know.
(20:16:11)	Randomno	There were TWO people discussing.
(20:16:21)	Randomno	And AleWi just mainly followed Solar's choice.
(20:16:23)	Mythigator	How about framing the question differently ... Should the May 7 discussion and its outcomes stand or be cancelled ?
(20:16:32)	Phinbart	Actually, now that I've read the proposal....
(20:16:34)	Randomno	Cancelled.
(20:16:37)	AleWi|ESC	We have now rules how many users we most have
(20:16:43)	Phinbart	I agree to his proposal!
(20:16:52)	AleWi|ESC	*no
(20:17:19)	Phinbart	Did we discuss a Dictionary wiki?
(20:17:25)	Randomno	Uhh...
(20:17:29)	AleWi|ESC	Yes, we should not have a Dictionary wiki
(20:17:37)	Phinbart	I think there should be a wiki discussion on the wiki about a dictionary wiki.
(20:18:00)	Randomno	[20:04:39] Solar_Dragon We don't need a dictionary wiki, it will be pointless
(20:18:00)	Randomno	[20:04:59] AleWi Easier to add project page, instead of putting "Wikisimpsons:Dictionary:Project page" or "Dictionary:Project:Project page".???
(20:18:00)	Randomno	[20:05:20] AleWi Okey, next topic
(20:18:02)	AleWi|ESC	It's hard for people to found it
(20:18:05)	Randomno	Barely any discussion.
(20:18:16)	WebkinzMania	No dictionary wiki.
(20:18:17)	Phinbart	How to improve the German wiki.
(20:18:25)	Randomno	Hang on, wha?
(20:18:40)	Phinbart	Next topic: How to improve the German wiki.
(20:18:40)	Randomno	Go back a few subjects.
(20:18:51)	Phinbart	Anyway, who's doin' the log for the meeting?
(20:18:55)	Randomno	I will.
(20:18:57)	Randomno	Might as well.
(20:19:14)	Randomno	I think I'm the only user here who has seconds on the timestamp.
(20:19:33)	Phinbart	We should try and aim to get German editors who are fluent with the language.
(20:19:33)	Randomno	Nick97, you haven't said anything for ages.
(20:19:47)	Randomno	Phinbart, please stop for a minute.
(20:19:50)	Phinbart	That "Tin" user on the German wiki only edits to improve the German language.
(20:20:04)	Nick97	Sorry, I'm kinda busy doing other stuff.
(20:20:20)	AleWi|ESC	kinda busy watching TV but write and read when I can
(20:20:31)	Nick97	>_>
(20:20:41)	Randomno	Right, are we cancel or keep on cancelling my proposal to cancel the editor meeting on May 7th?
(20:20:49)	AleWi|ESC	cancel
(20:20:58)	Phinbart	I agree with your proposal, Randomno.
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(20:21:12)	Randomno	Yay!
(20:21:12)	AleWi|ESC	Hi Cook879!!!!
(20:21:13)	Nick97	Cancel, I guess
(20:21:13)	Phinbart	Hi, Cook.
(20:21:15)	Randomno	Woo hoo!
(20:21:16)	AleWi|ESC	YOU ARE LATE?
(20:21:18)	=-=	Mode #wikisimpsons +o Cook879 by ChanServ
(20:21:18)	AleWi|ESC	???
(20:21:20)	AleWi|ESC	OR???
(20:21:20)	Cook879	YAY ME
(20:21:23)	AleWi|ESC	Early???
(20:21:28)	Randomno	Cook879 is in the discussion!
(20:21:33)	Randomno	Anyway, back to topic.
(20:21:35)	Phinbart	Cook, did you do something with the navbox last summer or the summer before?
(20:21:37)	AleWi|ESC	Cook879 - Right, are we cancel or keep on cancelling my proposal to cancel the editor meeting on May 7th?
(20:21:46)	AleWi|ESC	Randomno
(20:21:57)	Phinbart	It's Randomno's proposal, not AleWi's.
(20:21:59)	Cook879	Phinbart: What navbox?
(20:22:00)	AleWi|ESC	Right, are we cancel or keep on cancelling Randomno's proposal to cancel the editor meeting on May 7th?
(20:22:04)	Randomno	You dweeb, AleWi.
(20:22:08)	Mythigator	Cancel, I suppose, Since there were only 2 people there, I don't think you could call it decisive.
(20:22:12)	Phinbart	The Navbox in the Specials templae.
(20:22:16)	Phinbart	*template.
(20:22:27)	Cook879	errr... i'll look into it
(20:22:32)	WebkinzMania	Hi Cook.
(20:22:34)	Randomno	Okay, I think that's cancel.
(20:22:40)	Randomno	Right, discuss last meeting!
(20:22:52)	Randomno	It's a shame supergeeky1 doesn't have a say in this, though.
(20:23:00)	Randomno	He put up the proposal.
(20:23:01)	AleWi|ESC	can someone edit the sitenotice?
(20:23:10)	AleWi|ESC	= Cook879 or Mythigator
(20:23:14)	Cook879	one sec - i'm loading the football
(20:23:29)	Randomno	Football?
(20:23:29)	Mythigator	Last meeting was May 7th and if it's cancelled then there's nothing to discuss.
(20:23:41)	Cook879	England vs Norway Randomno
(20:23:42)	Randomno	...
(20:23:42)	Mythigator	Ale:What about the sitenotice? What change?
(20:23:45)	Cook879	we are winning 1-0
(20:23:48)	Phinbart	Back soon.
(20:23:49)	AleWi|ESC	Editor meeting now
(20:23:51)	Randomno	Loading it, though?
(20:23:53)	AleWi|ESC	should it stand
(20:24:00)	Mythigator	On it, Ale.
(20:24:06)	Randomno	Drunk.
(20:24:13)	AleWi|ESC	Are you not watching ESC, Cook87
(20:24:19)	AleWi|ESC	Cook879
(20:24:24)	AleWi|ESC	The biggest music show in Europe
(20:24:36)	Cook879	no, i thought i'd watch England while we're winning
(20:24:39)	Randomno	(That's opinion, not news!)
(20:24:45)	Cook879	anyway, we've gone on a tangent
(20:24:45)	Randomno	To AleWi's comment,
(20:24:46)	Randomno	8.
(20:24:49)	Randomno	*.
(20:25:00)	AleWi|ESC	It not look like UK win - http://www.olbg.com/eurovision.htm
(20:25:04)	Randomno	Anyway, back to meeting!!!!!!!
(20:25:19)	Mythigator	Done, Ale.
(20:25:29)	Randomno	Even more drunk.
(20:25:37)	Phinbart	Back.
(20:25:43)	Cook879	oh Mythigator, i'll short out the Troy McClure template in a bit
(20:26:08)	Randomno	http://simpsonswiki.net/w/index.php?title=Wikisimpsons:Editor_meetings&diff=prev&oldid=376333 Stuff to discuss.
(20:26:16)	Randomno	Short is out?
(20:26:26)	Cook879	you know what I meant
(20:26:27)	Randomno	*it
(20:26:33)	Mythigator	Coolness, Cook. BTW there is another template that needs sorted, I'll bring it up on your talkpage later.
(20:26:35)	Randomno	Anyway, meeting...
(20:26:49)	Cook879	ok-ily dokely
(20:26:52)	AleWi|ESC	"Cancelling Randomno's proposal (below) to cancel the outcome of May 7th's meeting. Most of these topics have been brought up three times now."
(20:26:56)	AleWi|ESC	YES!
(20:27:02)	Randomno	We decided keep.
(20:27:13)	Phinbart	Right, who's OK with Tapped Out location articles?
(20:27:15)	Randomno	And cancel what was said on May 7th.
(20:27:27)	Phinbart	Only a few users agreed to this.
(20:27:32)	Phinbart	I've create 4 already.
(20:27:33)	AleWi|ESC	Then we have 10 more topics
(20:27:35)	=-=	rofl is now known as Tux
(20:27:40)	Randomno	Uh, Phinbart, we're on the capitalisation subject.
(20:27:43)	Phinbart	10!? D'oh!
(20:27:56)	Phinbart	Capitalization?
(20:27:57)	=-=	Mode #wikisimpsons +o Mythigator by Cook879
(20:27:59)	Phinbart	Right...OK...
(20:28:09)	Randomno	We're discussing last meeting.
(20:28:12)	Randomno	http://simpsonswiki.net/w/index.php?title=Wikisimpsons:Editor_meetings&diff=prev&oldid=376333.
(20:28:25)	Randomno	So, capitalisation.
(20:28:34)	Phinbart	We should follow the titles as they are listed on Fox schedules on FoxFlash.com and in promotional image captions.
(20:28:40)	=-=	Mode #wikisimpsons +v AleWi|ESC by Cook879
(20:28:41)	Mythigator	Myth's tak re: caps: On that list of words, only "is" and "are" should be capitalized in titles if they aren not the first or last word.
(20:28:46)	=-=	Mode #wikisimpsons +v Phinbart by Cook879
(20:28:54)	Randomno	Cook879...
(20:28:57)	Randomno	Are you muting me?
(20:29:02)	Cook879	No
(20:29:13)	AleWi|ESC	update - http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Wikisimpsons:Editor_meetings
(20:29:14)	Cook879	I am giving rollbacks voice
(20:29:20)	Randomno	Oh.
(20:29:21)	Randomno	Fine.
(20:29:22)	Cook879	and admins ops, as per custom
(20:29:31)	Randomno	Okay.
(20:29:34)	Randomno	Back to meeting.
(20:29:57)	AleWi|ESC	Capitlization of a, am, an, and, are, as, at, be, by, for, if, in, is, it, of, on, or, so, the, to and with.
(20:30:01)	Phinbart	[20:28] <Phinbart> We should follow the titles as they are listed on Fox schedules on FoxFlash.com and in promotional image captions.
(20:30:03)	AleWi|ESC	is next topics
(20:30:10)	Randomno	Mythigator: Ignoring the fact they are verbs, I just don't see why.
(20:30:17)	Randomno	Hang on, not verbs.
(20:30:21)	Randomno	But something.
(20:30:35)	Mythigator	The fact that they are verbs is why they should be capitalized.
(20:30:42)	Nick97	You can't ignore that fact
(20:30:49)	Cook879	Simpsons World capitalizes "Is"
(20:30:53)	Cook879	just finding an "are"
(20:30:59)	Nick97	I basically agree with Myth
(20:31:15)	Phinbart	And we should list them as in the Simpsons World list of contents.
(20:31:17)	Randomno	How are they verbs?
(20:31:21)	Mythigator	All of the other words on the list are articles, prepositions, or conjunctions which are NOT capitalized in titles unless they're the first or last word.
(20:31:27)	Nick97	They are action words
(20:31:32)	Randomno	But shouldn't we go with the official site?
(20:31:41)	Randomno	He iss?
(20:31:43)	Randomno	And ares?
(20:31:47)	Mythigator	"Are" is a verb. So is "is". Consult a grammar text.
(20:31:59)	Randomno	To is?
(20:32:02)	Randomno	To are?
(20:32:06)	Cook879	OKay, I can't think of an "are" episode, but I agree with Myth
(20:32:09)	Randomno	To jump, he jumps.
(20:32:16)	Mythigator	They are both forms of "to be".
(20:32:28)	Phinbart	"the" is always listed as lowercase
(20:32:37)	Randomno	Great. Anyway, shouldn't we go with the official site?
(20:33:04)	Phinbart	Yes, "A Star Is Burns" is listed as "A Star Is Burns" with capitalization of "Is".
(20:33:20)	Cook879	What does the official site say for, say "Homer Simpson, This Is Your Wife"?
(20:33:38)	Phinbart	What season?
(20:33:56)	Randomno	Cook879: Other direction.
(20:34:02)	Phinbart	"Homer Simpson, This Is Your Wife" - as listed in Simpsons World.
(20:34:03)	Cook879	errr.... 18 i think
(20:34:12)	Mythigator	17
(20:34:19)	Cook879	Close enought
(20:34:28)	Randomno	I bet it does say that, but TheSimpsons.com says "Mom's I'd Like To Forget".
(20:34:33)	Phinbart	"with" is not capitalized.
(20:34:43)	Randomno	Anyway, on thesimpsons.com now.
(20:34:56)	Randomno	http://thesimpsons.com/#/recaps.
(20:35:07)	Phinbart	But that would mean that there's a character called "Mom" who has a "I'd Like to Forget".
(20:35:10)	Mythigator	They screwed up "Moms", are you going to trust their word on anything else?
(20:35:38)	Cook879	oh - the video loads and it's half time >_>
(20:35:38)	Randomno	Sorry, I think it is Moms.
(20:35:43)	Phinbart	Whenever I type the ep title I always type "Mom's"
(20:36:17)	Randomno	It is "Moms".
(20:36:33)	Randomno	Anyway, they capitalise "to">
(20:36:34)	Randomno	*.
(20:36:41)	Randomno	And they are an official site.
(20:36:47)	Mythigator	We all have our typing demons. The agency I work for does paratransit services. When I write something about taking a guest home, I keep typing "Homer".
(20:37:04)	Cook879	lol
(20:37:24)	Randomno	I often type "Homer" instead of "home">
(20:37:25)	Cook879	anyone know when "Moms" last aired on FOX?
(20:37:26)	Randomno	*.
(20:37:32)	Randomno	My fingers urge me to press the r.
(20:37:35)	Mythigator	"To Forget" in that context is part of a verb, therefore gets capped.
(20:37:36)	Phinbart	I dunno.
(20:37:41)	Mythigator	goota go in a minute
(20:37:42)	Randomno	2011.
(20:37:44)	Randomno	January.
(20:37:57)	Cook879	In my computing exam, I had to go back and change "center" to the English spelling
(20:37:58)	Phinbart	Check the ep list at SNPP.com where there's a list of the first four airdates.
(20:37:59)	AleWi|ESC	he ask last
(20:38:05)	Randomno	9th.
(20:38:14)	Mythigator	"to Spinrginfield" uses "to" as a preposition, therefore is lowercase.
(20:38:30)	Randomno	Oh, god.
(20:38:40)	Mythigator	And that's all I can say, gotta go. Sorry for the abrupt exit.
(20:38:41)	Randomno	This is why I call you a "wordy Scott".
(20:38:48)	Cook879	bye
(20:38:53)	Randomno	Bye bye.
(20:38:54)	Mythigator	Damn straight, Rand. Bye now!
(20:39:01)	|<--	Mythigator has left freenode (Quit: Page closed)
(20:39:03)	AleWi|ESC	bye Myth
(20:39:08)	Randomno	Straight in what sense?
(20:39:21)	Cook879	As in the phrase "damn straight"
(20:39:37)	Randomno	That still could mean other things.
(20:39:44)	Randomno	"Damn dent".
(20:39:47)	Randomno	*bent
(20:39:52)	Randomno	Anyway, back to topic.
(20:40:10)	Phinbart	So, Capitalization?
(20:40:16)	Phinbart	Shall we continue this next meeting?
(20:40:22)	Randomno	Yeah.
(20:40:36)	Randomno	If WebkinzMania is active, that is.
(20:40:39)	AleWi|ESC	Capitlization of a, am, an, and, are, as, at, be, by, for, if, in, is, it, of, on, or, so, the, to and with.
(20:40:42)	AleWi|ESC	next time
(20:40:49)	WebkinzMania	I'm just watching.
(20:40:51)	AleWi|ESC	Dictionary wiki. Points to discuss: Easier to find; half of our viewers probably don't know we have a dictionary.
(20:40:53)	AleWi|ESC	A name like "Simptionary" or something, otherwise we'd have to call it "the dictionary namespace".
(20:40:54)	AleWi|ESC	Easier to add project page, instead of putting "Wikisimpsons:Dictionary:Project page" or "Dictionary:Project:Project page".
(20:40:56)	AleWi|ESC	now
(20:40:58)	Randomno	Stop, AleWi|ESC.
(20:41:14)	Randomno	We're still on the previous topic.
(20:41:36)	Cook879	I thought we we're pushing it back?
(20:41:54)	Randomno	I want to say "Either don't capitalise "is" and "are", or go with TheSimpsons.com.
(20:42:00)	Randomno	*".
(20:42:20)	Cook879	Capitalize - Simpsons World is our best source and they capitalize it
(20:42:31)	Phinbart	Let's go with the Simpsons World titles, the titles listed on FoxFlash, and in another case, TheSimpsons.com.
(20:42:32)	Randomno	Why is it the best source?
(20:42:49)	Cook879	Because any Fox intern could have updated the website
(20:43:09)	Cook879	The book is a proper published source
(20:43:12)	Randomno	But that could mean they have updated the title.
(20:43:14)	AleWi|ESC	On the DVD they write all letters with Capitlization
(20:43:32)	Cook879	They don't update after broadcast
(20:44:02)	Randomno	Meh then.
(20:44:10)	Randomno	I still think a site is better.
(20:44:53)	Phinbart	I still think an official publication is best.
(20:45:00)	Nick97	^me too
(20:45:04)	Randomno	BRB.
(20:45:13)	Cook879	Can wew wrap this topic up?
(20:45:33)	Cook879	*we
(20:45:38)	AleWi|ESC	for the four time?
(20:45:40)	AleWi|ESC	yes???
(20:45:58)	Cook879	Yes - Say I if you think we should capitalize "Is" and "Are"
(20:46:00)	Cook879	I
(20:46:09)	Nick97	Eye
(20:46:51)	Cook879	Phinbart?
(20:47:05)	WebkinzMania	I
(20:47:11)	Phinbart	We should captialize "IS" not "ARE"
(20:47:40)	Cook879	hmm... Myth will say I, Randomno won't
(20:48:59)	Cook879	Well, majority are for. Anyone with additonal comments make a discussion
(20:49:02)	Cook879	Let's move on
(20:49:45)	AleWi|ESC	Dictionary wiki. Points to discuss: Easier to find; half of our viewers probably don't know we have a dictionary.
(20:49:47)	AleWi|ESC	A name like "Simptionary" or something, otherwise we'd have to call it "the dictionary namespace".
(20:49:49)	AleWi|ESC	Easier to add project page, instead of putting "Wikisimpsons:Dictionary:Project page" or "Dictionary:Project:Project page".
(20:49:54)	Phinbart	No Dictionary wiki.
(20:50:00)	AleWi|ESC	No Dictionary wiki.
(20:50:08)	Cook879	I know Solar would agree when I say no dictionary wiki
(20:50:09)	AleWi|ESC	Solar don't eighter
(20:50:26)	Nick97	no
(20:50:46)	WebkinzMania	no
(20:51:04)	Cook879	Randomno will argue, but it's clear the majority disagree with him
(20:51:08)	Cook879	so I think we can move on
(20:51:18)	AleWi|ESC	File:No character image.png
(20:51:22)	AleWi|ESC	is next topic
(20:51:25)	WebkinzMania	
(20:51:26)	AleWi|ESC	the file don't excist
(20:51:28)	Phinbart	Deleted - pointless to discuss
(20:51:32)	Cook879	Next
(20:51:37)	AleWi|ESC	German wiki Ways to keep it more active
(20:51:39)	AleWi|ESC	Improvements
(20:51:40)	WebkinzMania	Why do we need a no character image anyways?
(20:52:01)	Cook879	WebkinzMania: i guess just to fill the space in the infobox
(20:52:06)	WebkinzMania	ah
(20:52:07)	Phinbart	For characters with no images available (mentioned characters, etc.)
(20:52:23)	Cook879	German - get a German guy would be the best
(20:52:24)	WebkinzMania	I think Blank.png|Name (mentioned) is fine
(20:52:26)	WebkinzMania	but we moved on
(20:52:33)	WebkinzMania	we are moving on*
(20:52:34)	WebkinzMania	
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(20:52:46)	WebkinzMania	I honestly have no opinion about that. I don't edit there.
(20:52:48)	AleWi|ESC	German wiki Ways to keep it more active
(20:52:48)	Phinbart	In the infobox I meant.
(20:52:50)	AleWi|ESC	Improvements
(20:52:51)	Phinbart	Hi, Doh!
(20:52:52)	AleWi|ESC	WebkinzMania Why do we need a no character image anyways?
(20:52:53)	AleWi|ESC	Cook879 WebkinzMania: i guess jus
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(20:53:10)	Phinbart	For characters with no images available (mentioned characters, etc.) It could have gone in the infobox.
(20:53:48)	Doh5678	What've I missed?
(20:53:52)	Cook879	Right, German - Doh5678 this is your wiki, any comments?
(20:54:07)	Cook879	We're redoing the last meeting
(20:54:52)	Doh5678	Everyone needs to learn German
(20:55:08)	AleWi|ESC	I can a few words
(20:55:13)	Cook879	We need a German - simples
(20:55:16)	Randomno	Back.
(20:55:25)	AleWi|ESC	Blog:Changing bullets in appearances to numbers
(20:55:29)	Phinbart	I know a few words, but I usually translate the words.
(20:55:30)	AleWi|ESC	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Blog:Changing_bullets_in_appearances_to_numbers
(20:55:31)	Cook879	Randomno: Improving German
(20:55:37)	Phinbart	- Using Google Translate.
(20:55:48)	Doh5678	Do whatever the hell you want
(20:55:56)	Nick97	put a "wanted ad" in a German newspaper
(20:56:06)	Cook879	lol
(20:56:25)	Cook879	AleWi|ESC: Is that next? That is really old
(20:56:26)	Doh5678	My brother is going to GErmany next year so
(20:56:27)	AleWi|ESC	did one on TV
(20:56:38)	AleWi|ESC	yes, next topic is that
(20:56:52)	AleWi|ESC	Only Solar has vote
(20:56:53)	Nick97	@Doh5678: Get him to bring back a German.
(20:57:06)	Randomno	Please can we talk about dictionary wiki again?
(20:57:15)	Doh5678	He speaks a lot of German
(20:57:22)	Cook879	Randomno: Everyone but you we're against
(20:57:25)	Cook879	*were
(20:57:27)	AleWi|ESC	No dictionary wiki
(20:57:28)	Phinbart	The only German-fluent user is that "Tin" user on the German wiki who just fixes the translated German into proper German.
(20:57:32)	Randomno	I want to bring up some points.
(20:57:34)	AleWi|ESC	we have a mainspace for it
(20:57:41)	AleWi|ESC	not again, sigh!
(20:57:46)	Randomno	
(20:58:00)	Cook879	Bring them up at the end, or in a forum. We're ahead now
(20:58:10)	Randomno	
(20:58:26)	Phinbart	Next topic?
(20:58:26)	Randomno	Can we do German and move back?
(20:58:32)	AleWi|ESC	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Blog:Changing_bullets_in_appearances_to_numbers
(20:58:56)	Cook879	Randomno: at the end
(20:59:01)	Randomno	
(20:59:03)	Randomno	Fine.
(20:59:08)	Randomno	Hopefully I'll be there.
(20:59:27)	Cook879	RE: Numbers. I asked Randomno for an example, but he never served me
(20:59:39)	Randomno	What do you mean?
(20:59:52)	Phinbart	Nope, I don't think we should change the bullets to numbers.
(20:59:53)	Cook879	As in a numbered appearance list
(21:00:07)	Cook879	Just to see if it looks as bad as it seems
(21:00:19)	Randomno	I don't really think we should, but I wanted to know what to do with the discussion.
(21:00:33)	Cook879	Close it
(21:00:59)	Cook879	So if that's all, next AleWi|ESC
(21:01:09)	Randomno	Okay, seems to be.
(21:01:12)	Randomno	Next topic.
(21:01:15)	AleWi|ESC	Images on infoboxes for comics, title, front page or a frame?
(21:01:25)	Randomno	Title.
(21:01:30)	Cook879	Whatever's suitable
(21:01:31)	Phinbart	It should be the first frame in the comic.
(21:01:41)	AleWi|ESC	RIght now is often just the title
(21:01:46)	Phinbart	I mean - a frame that sums up the comic.
(21:01:52)	Cook879	Episodes is most suitable. Comics should be the same
(21:01:57)	Cook879	*are
(21:02:21)	Nick97	Most suitable.
(21:02:44)	Doh5678	Most suitable
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(21:02:57)	Randomno	Can we at least have the title with it?
(21:03:02)	Cook879	Though I fail to see an example where a title does this
(21:03:15)	Cook879	Randomno: So, two images?
(21:03:18)	Randomno	A Simpleton Plan?
(21:03:19)	Nick97	If the most suitable frame includes the title, then yes.
(21:03:32)	Randomno	How about we have the title and then a frame?
(21:03:49)	AleWi|ESC	Why most we have the title?
(21:03:50)	Cook879	Dunno - might look crappy
(21:04:10)	Randomno	Umm... Let me just attempt to scan something.
(21:04:15)	Randomno	May be about 5 - 10 minutes.
(21:04:20)	Doh5678	People can read the page title, so why repeat it in the image
(21:04:29)	Phinbart	Just having the title is a bit stupid.
(21:04:33)	AleWi|ESC	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Maggie%27s_Crib_20
(21:04:34)	AleWi|ESC	is better
(21:04:44)	Cook879	^
(21:05:21)	Phinbart	Next topic?
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(21:05:32)	AleWi|ESC	Main pages for comics
(21:05:36)	Phinbart	The Comic Main Page.
(21:05:45)	Phinbart	I like AleWi's Comic Portal thingy.
(21:05:56)	Cook879	Where would this be used though? Like the link and what not?
(21:06:05)	AleWi|ESC	Link in the sidebar
(21:06:08)	Phinbart	Get it completed, AleWi, and then we could implement it using a "Comic:" namespace maybe.
(21:06:09)	AleWi|ESC	when you click on Comic
(21:06:19)	Cook879	Oh right.
(21:06:31)	Randomno	Wait!!!!
(21:06:35)	Cook879	Though we would have to implement for all.
(21:06:38)	Nick97	I like the idea, but we need more completed articles.
(21:06:39)	Randomno	I'm nearly done scanning.
(21:06:49)	Cook879	Randomno: Bring it up when you're down
(21:06:57)	Phinbart	No, just the "Comic:" namespace for the portal.
(21:07:03)	AleWi|ESC	We can simply do a completed articles in month
(21:07:08)	Cook879	How about this.
(21:07:14)	Phinbart	Not renaming Comic articles with "Comic:" before them.
(21:07:31)	Cook879	We're removing projects into style guides
(21:07:38)	Cook879	so the talk pages link to the portal instead
(21:07:42)	Phinbart	AleWi, I meant complete the Comic portal thing.
(21:08:03)	AleWi|ESC	Yes, but I have wait to what you thinks about it
(21:08:05)	Cook879	Maybe portals for other things, like episodes, games, e.t.c.
(21:08:28)	Phinbart	Maybe just a "Comic:" portal
(21:08:46)	Phinbart	I think there's been more comic stories than there has been episodes!
(21:08:52)	Cook879	Well yeah
(21:09:04)	AleWi|ESC	Around 80% of all comic stories have an article
(21:09:15)	Nick97	Episodes and comics are the two main things. Games, etc. are less important.
(21:09:41)	Nick97	@AleWi: I know, I mean that most still need all the tabs, and other related articles.
(21:09:46)	Phinbart	We could have like a "Looking for a comic article" thing on the Portal, and a search feature to search for comics.
(21:10:15)	AleWi|ESC	The comic articles should stay in the main namespoace
(21:10:21)	AleWi|ESC	*space
(21:10:27)	Phinbart	Yes.
(21:10:31)	Cook879	Yes - the portal can go in the Wikisimpsons space
(21:10:33)	Randomno	Okay, I'm uploading the comic frame.
(21:10:38)	Randomno	It is 3MB, though.
(21:10:48)	Cook879	Don't talk about it till we discussed this.
(21:10:57)	Phinbart	I still think it should be in a "Comic:" namespace.
(21:11:10)	Randomno	I think we should have a portal.
(21:11:15)	Randomno	I just don't know where.
(21:11:18)	AleWi|ESC	I think we should have a portal for Comic in Wikisimpsons namespace
(21:11:19)	Cook879	But a new namespace for one article is pointless
(21:11:44)	Randomno	I just need to look at the log.
(21:11:51)	Phinbart	Yeah, but then where are we gonna put the portal?
(21:12:01)	Phinbart	A page named "Comic Portal"?
(21:12:04)	Cook879	in the Wikisimpsons name space
(21:12:10)	Randomno	I need to add the log of the meeting now; the discussion is getting very long.
(21:12:11)	Cook879	and that can redirect there
(21:12:17)	Doh5678	Wikisimpsons: Comic Portal
(21:12:28)	Phinbart	OK, but I'm just saying it's better with "Comic:Main Page"