Wikisimpsons:Editor meetings/April 21st 2012

(20:09:58)	AleWi	Should we start the meeting?
(20:10:09)	Phinbart	HA! Beat you to it!
(20:10:24)	Phinbart	I waited till the computer clock went "08:10", then pressed enter.
(20:10:28)	AleWi	Censority
(20:10:38)	Phinbart	Randomno wanted to discuss this.
(20:10:47)	Phinbart	Rndomno Rndomno|Away
(20:10:56)	Rndomno	Yes?
(20:10:57)	AleWi	Randomno is not here
(20:11:00)	AleWi	Rndomno is here
(20:11:00)	Rndomno	DAMMIT!
(20:11:03)	AleWi	it's not same person
(20:11:08)	Freddie_	It is time!
(20:11:13)	Phinbart	You always get things late, AleWi
(20:11:27)	Phinbart	Right, Randomno, what was it you wanted to discuss about Censority?
(20:11:41)	Rndomno	Part 2. [dramatic music]
(20:11:55)	Rndomno	Well, we're not Wikipedia.
(20:12:11)	Solar_Dragon	We're not censoring anything
(20:12:14)	Solar_Dragon	NEXT TOPIC!
(20:12:17)	Rndomno	Shuddup.
(20:12:22)	AleWi	Some things about The Simpsons shorts
(20:12:23)	Rndomno	STAY ON TOPIC!
(20:12:35)	Phinbart	"(→List of things to be discussed: I know we've already discussed this, but I have some more points to bring up)" - in history
(20:12:44)	Rndomno	Yeah.
(20:12:58)	Rndomno	Okay, next, The Simpsons doesn't use any strong language.
(20:13:11)	Solar_Dragon	Yes, it has done
(20:13:17)	Solar_Dragon	See Will k's list of swear words
(20:13:21)	Rndomno	If we were a South Park wiki, users would expect to see some stuff.
(20:13:39)	AleWi	Some episodes have raiting 14 in US
(20:13:41)	Solar_Dragon	We're not censoring anything
(20:13:44)	Solar_Dragon	NEXT TOPIC!
(20:13:45)	Rndomno	Solar_Dragon: Not really strong, like f*** and s***.
(20:13:52)	Rndomno	STAY ON TOPIC!
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(20:13:59)	Solar_Dragon	Don't ping me, it lags my episode
(20:14:06)	Rndomno	Mehkay.
(20:14:12)	Phinbart	Right, so next topic?
(20:14:15)	Rndomno	NO!
(20:14:17)	AleWi	Solar go away then
(20:14:24)	Solar_Dragon	No
(20:14:28)	AleWi	Some things about The Simpsons shorts
(20:14:36)	Cook879	what things?
(20:14:39)	Rndomno	AleWi: Hold on!
(20:14:41)	AleWi	I don't know
(20:14:45)	Rndomno	Back a topic!
(20:14:51)	AleWi	No Rndomno
(20:14:53)	Rndomno	yes.
(20:14:56)	Rndomno	*Yes
(20:14:56)	Phinbart	How about we let Randomno speak
(20:15:04)	AleWi	Write what you want
(20:15:17)	AleWi	*sigh*
(20:15:31)	Rndomno	Right: If we were another wiki like a South Park or Family Guy one, users would expect to see strong language.
(20:15:55)	AleWi	Simpsons it's not a show for kids according producers, but they now kids watching.
(20:15:56)	Rndomno	We should be umm... precautioness.
(20:16:05)	Solar_Dragon	Sigh. Is that the only point you're bringing up?
(20:16:09)	Cook879	How "strong" is "wank"? They used that twice, uncensored last week
(20:16:24)	Solar_Dragon	The Simpsons has used lots of swear words.
(20:16:30)	Rndomno	Yeah, where was the second time by the way? I know Lenny's one.
(20:16:32)	AleWi	wank is not in US a bad word, but in in UK.
(20:16:42)	Rndomno	Sólar: Not that strong.
(20:16:52)	Phinbart	It was once said on Breakfast when some American guys were on
(20:16:53)	Solar_Dragon	They haven't used "cunt" yet, which is the worst swear word of them all, which is why we would censor that if we had it
(20:17:21)	AleWi	Everybody can some swear words when you are 5, 6 years old.
(20:17:39)	Phinbart	OK, have we finished discussing censority?
(20:17:45)	Solar_Dragon	We're not censoring anything
(20:17:47)	Rndomno	Everybody knows some?
(20:17:47)	Solar_Dragon	NEXT TOPIC!
(20:17:51)	Rndomno	No, Solar.
(20:18:01)	AleWi	Yes, Solar.
(20:18:03)	AleWi	Some things about The Simpsons shorts
(20:18:05)	Solar_Dragon	WE ARE NOT CENSORING ANYTHING!
(20:18:09)	Rndomno	I don't care if you don't want pinging. We need to finish this off.
(20:18:14)	Rndomno	Vote:
(20:18:15)	Solar_Dragon	Randomno, you are the ONLY one who disagrees
(20:18:21)	Solar_Dragon	Therefore, NEXT TOPIC!
(20:18:24)	Rndomno	NO!
(20:18:26)	Cook879	No
(20:18:28)	Rndomno	Vote first.
(20:18:36)	AleWi	Vote: No
(20:18:41)	Phinbart	Errrrr...
(20:18:41)	Rndomno	Just quickly say "yes" or "no".
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(20:18:50)	FatHomer	Hi!
(20:18:50)	Freddie_	Yes.
(20:18:51)	Phinbart	Hi, FatHomer
(20:18:52)	AleWi	Hej FatHomer.
(20:18:52)	Rndomno	Hi, FatHomer.
(20:18:52)	Solar_Dragon	NO, No Censoring.
(20:19:00)	Cook879	hey FatHomer
(20:19:00)	Solar_Dragon	That's my vote
(20:19:01)	Rndomno	Voting, then?
(20:19:03)	Phinbart	We're in the middle of a heated argument about censority
(20:19:06)	Cook879	I have!
(20:19:09)	FatHomer	What'sok
(20:19:19)	FatHomer	sorry
(20:19:31)	FatHomer	censor what?
(20:19:37)	Cook879	rude words
(20:19:40)	Rndomno	Swear words.
(20:19:56)	FatHomer	we should not do that
(20:20:03)	Rndomno	Okay, LISTEN. I don;t mind words that were on the show.
(20:20:06)	Rndomno	Only other ones.
(20:20:30)	Rndomno	Like Sneed's Feed and Seed Behind the Laughter, or Homer's Trivia section.
(20:20:38)	Solar_Dragon	We do not need to censor swear words
(20:20:39)	FatHomer	but I think users shouldn't swear
(20:20:45)	Solar_Dragon	We won't censor swear words
(20:20:59)	Phinbart	Right, change topic then?
(20:21:09)	Freddie_	Oh, come on!
(20:21:25)	Rndomno	Can we just count up votes?
(20:21:37)	Rndomno	So, 3 no, 1 yes, so far.
(20:21:40)	Cook879	Well count then!
(20:21:42)	Solar_Dragon	"Fuck". Everyone knows it. A lot of people use it.
(20:21:46)	Phinbart	Remember everyone I'M doing the transcript of the meeting
(20:21:50)	AleWi	The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where feed and seed both have the same suffix -eed. The shop was "Formerly Chuck's", meaning for the two words beginning with "F" and "S" to have the same suffix with Chuck's (-uck), the shop would have been called "Chuck's Fuck and Suck".
(20:21:50)	Rndomno	I don't.
(20:21:53)	Rndomno	I will.
(20:21:59)	Rndomno	For transcript.
(20:22:11)	Rndomno	Not I will use swear words.
(20:22:18)	Cook879	I swear more than 4 of us have voted
(20:22:25)	Rndomno	
(20:22:41)	AleWi	In one episode he was the only character in the show to say bulls**t but the "s**t" part was censored by a honk sound.
(20:22:45)	Cook879	I was being serious - I didn't intend for that statement to be comic
(20:22:52)	Rndomno	Oh.
(20:23:00)	Phinbart	We've already created a template for pages which have content that is not suitable for young children
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(20:23:11)	Rndomno	I know!
(20:23:13)	FatHomer	Hi!
(20:23:18)	Rndomno	Let's create an parameter!
(20:23:18)	AleWi	supergeeky1 it's 23 minutes past 3PM!
(20:23:21)	Rndomno	I'll do it.
(20:23:21)	AleWi	Hi supergeeky1!
(20:23:22)	Phinbart	Hi, supergeeky
(20:23:28)	Solar_Dragon	supergeeky1, Randomno is trying to make us censor swear words. What do you have to say about that?
(20:23:35)	Rndomno	So, no censority but warning, then.
(20:23:43)	FatHomer	yepp
(20:23:59)	supergeeky1	I have had it with these motherfucking pings in this motherfucking channel.
(20:24:01)	supergeeky1	^
(20:24:04)	Solar_Dragon	
(20:24:12)	Solar_Dragon	Snakes on a Plane
(20:24:33)	Phinbart	Right, move topic then?
(20:24:39)	Rndomno	Asgard.
(20:24:49)	AleWi	Cook879, Solar_Dragon, the site notice?
(20:25:01)	Phinbart	Change to "There is an editor meeting now"
(20:25:02)	AleWi	we have a meeting now!!!
(20:25:08)	FatHomer	Some things about The Simpsons shorts?
(20:25:10)	Solar_Dragon	I cried when the Asgard committed mass genocide in Stargate
(20:25:11)	Cook879	God - you guys are so demanding
(20:25:21)	supergeeky1	head-desks.
(20:25:46)	FatHomer	Some things about The Simpsons shorts?...
(20:25:48)	Phinbart	Guess I'm not doing the transcript any more: http://simpsonswiki.net/w/index.php?title=Wikisimpsons:Editor_meetings/April_21st_2012&curid=79186&diff=362927&oldid=362923
(20:25:49)	YourDaddy	Title: Wikisimpsons:Editor meetings/April 21st 2012 - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(20:25:56)	Rndomno	Yeah.
(20:25:59)	Phinbart	I told everyone I was doing the transcript.
(20:26:03)	Rndomno	The only problem is smileys on ChatZilla.
(20:26:08)	Phinbart	Right, Some things about the shorts.
(20:26:10)	Rndomno	I said "I will." earlier.
(20:26:18)	Cook879	who added it?
(20:26:22)	Phinbart	Me
(20:26:32)	Phinbart	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:Phinbart/Short_titles
(20:26:34)	YourDaddy	Title: User:Phinbart/Short titles - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(20:26:50)	Solar_Dragon	Go for Simpson World titles
(20:27:08)	Phinbart	No-one took notice of it when I created it
(20:27:08)	Cook879	Yeah
(20:27:13)	FatHomer	I agree
(20:27:17)	Cook879	I notice everything
(20:27:19)	AleWi	We vote it last time
(20:27:28)	AleWi	We should have Simpsons World.
(20:27:35)	FatHomer	?
(20:27:44)	Phinbart	Also, we should use the videos here: http://www.youtube.com/user/Homerpalooza1997 for short framegrabs. The vids are from the FIRST airing of the short.
(20:27:45)	YourDaddy	Title: Homerpalooza1997 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
(20:27:45)	FatHomer	oh yes
(20:27:52)	Rndomno	Woah, mama! This is the only edit meeting we've had on a "st" date.
(20:28:04)	Cook879	that's a lovely fact
(20:28:10)	Cook879	too bad it's off topic
(20:28:16)	Phinbart	Are you doing the meeting transcript, Randomno?
(20:28:25)	Rndomno	Yes.
(20:28:30)	Phinbart	OK
(20:28:34)	Rndomno	I'll add more in a few minutes.
(20:28:40)	Phinbart	So, what does everyone think?
(20:28:49)	Phinbart	Change wiki titles to Simpson World titles?
(20:28:52)	Phinbart	I
(20:28:54)	FatHomer	yes
(20:28:56)	Cook879	I
(20:29:01)	Freddie_	Yup!
(20:29:03)	AleWi	yes, we vote it last time
(20:29:20)	FatHomer	Next topic: A plots and B plots categories?
(20:29:32)	Cook879	Explain
(20:29:34)	AleWi	[20:46] <Phinbart> Simpsons World titles here: http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:Phinbart/Cut_short_scenes
(20:29:35)	YourDaddy	Title: User:Phinbart/Cut short scenes - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(20:29:36)	AleWi	[20:47] <YourDaddy> Title: User:Phinbart/Cut short scenes - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(20:29:37)	AleWi	[20:47] <@Solar_Dragon> And if I notice a title discrepancy with episodes, I change it to what Simpsons World says
(20:29:39)	AleWi	[20:47] <Phinbart> Yes.
(20:29:50)	Phinbart	[20:27] <Phinbart> Also, we should use the videos here: http://www.youtube.com/user/Homerpalooza1997 for short framegrabs. The vids are from the FIRST airing of the short. - should we?
(20:29:51)	AleWi	[20:47] <Phinbart> Next topic, then?
(20:29:52)	YourDaddy	Title: Homerpalooza1997 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
(20:30:34)	FatHomer	yes phinbart
(20:30:45)	Phinbart	Right, A plots and B plots categories
(20:30:52)	Cook879	Explain
(20:30:53)	Phinbart	I added it
(20:31:08)	FatHomer	so...
(20:31:15)	Phinbart	I think we should have A plots and B plots categories like the Infosphere has.
(20:31:22)	FatHomer	link?
(20:31:52)	Phinbart	http://theinfosphere.org/Category:A_plots_focusing_on_Fry
(20:31:52)	YourDaddy	Title: Category:A plots focusing on Fry - The Infosphere, the Futurama Wiki (at theinfosphere.org)
(20:32:00)	Phinbart	http://theinfosphere.org/Category:B_plots_focusing_on_Fry
(20:32:02)	YourDaddy	Title: Category:B plots focusing on Fry - The Infosphere, the Futurama Wiki (at theinfosphere.org)
(20:32:13)	FatHomer	Could we please remove YourDaddy?
(20:32:31)	Freddie_	That is an okay idea...
(20:32:38)	Cook879	meh
(20:32:57)	Phinbart	For "Moaning Lisa", it would be, A plots focusing on Lisa, B plots focusing on Homer, B plots focusing on Bart
(20:33:32)	FatHomer	I don't think we should have it
(20:33:48)	Rndomno	Me neither.
(20:33:59)	Phinbart	A plots and B plots?
(20:34:00)	Phinbart	I
(20:34:00)	AleWi	It can be too much categories
(20:34:12)	Phinbart	"I" or "Nay"
(20:34:18)	Freddie_	Nay.
(20:34:27)	Cook879	Nay
(20:34:28)	AleWi	Nay
(20:34:43)	Phinbart	Solar? FatHomer?
(20:34:48)	FatHomer	Nay
(20:34:52)	Freddie_	Nay, nay, nay, hurry up!
(20:34:53)	Solar_Dragon	What?
(20:34:59)	Phinbart	A plots and B plots?
(20:35:07)	Solar_Dragon	What about them?
(20:35:11)	FatHomer	...
(20:35:13)	Cook879	>_>
(20:35:17)	Phinbart	Read the discussion, Solar?
(20:35:20)	Solar_Dragon	cba
(20:35:21)	AleWi	We should not have them as categories
(20:35:30)	Solar_Dragon	And stop pinging me
(20:35:38)	AleWi	■Did You Know? section during the summer
(20:35:46)	Phinbart	Solar hasn't decided yet/
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(20:35:56)	AleWi	No Solar if you are he we can ping you
(20:35:59)	AleWi	Solar left!
(20:36:02)	AleWi	Hurray!
(20:36:08)	Phinbart	He said "cba"
(20:36:12)	FatHomer	Can't Be Arsed
(20:36:17)	Phinbart	Oh.
(20:36:23)	Phinbart	Right then.
(20:36:32)	Phinbart	Did You Know? section during the summer
(20:36:38)	FatHomer	?
(20:36:41)	Freddie_	?
(20:36:42)	Rndomno	Why during the summer?
(20:36:44)	Phinbart	It could replace "Upcoming episode"
(20:36:51)	Freddie_	Why?
(20:36:52)	Phinbart	Because then there's no episodes.
(20:36:53)	FatHomer	oh, yes we should
(20:37:03)	Cook879	Though space might be a bit confining
(20:37:03)	Rndomno	Meh.
(20:37:07)	Freddie_	Yes, sorry.
(20:37:14)	Phinbart	Two facts or something.
(20:37:15)	AleWi	Wikipedia has always Did You Know.
(20:37:19)	Rndomno	Think it's a bit pointless.
(20:37:39)	Freddie_	What is pointless?
(20:37:48)	Rndomno	Did You Know? section.
(20:37:51)	Phinbart	Did You Know section
(20:38:01)	Freddie_	How come? Rattle me!
(20:38:32)	FatHomer	should we vote?
(20:38:42)	Freddie_	Yes - Yes.
(20:38:54)	Phinbart	We could replace the Upcoming Episode section on the main page during the summer with the Did You Know? section because there's no episodes in the summer and three months for it to have a run.
(20:39:07)	Rndomno	But we know the next episode sometimes.
(20:39:25)	Cook879	Not till about 2-3 weeks before
(20:39:29)	FatHomer	I vote Yes
(20:39:32)	Phinbart	Yes, but it would be pointless putting it on the main page till around mid-August or something.
(20:39:49)	Phinbart	That's when everyone will be wondering what the Season 24 premiere is and when it will premiere.
(20:39:52)	Rndomno	http://simpsonswiki.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Next_Episode&diff=prev&oldid=220507 We knew it August 9.
(20:39:54)	YourDaddy	Title: Template:Next Episode - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(20:40:32)	Cook879	That's still 2 months
(20:40:36)	Phinbart	From June 1 to August ...20 then?
(20:40:48)	FatHomer	OK
(20:40:50)	Rndomno	I vote no. I think we should have it either permanently or not.
(20:40:53)	AleWi	In late may we have no new episode
(20:41:05)	AleWi	Wikipedia has it permanent.
(20:41:27)	Rndomno	We just remove the next episode template.
(20:41:28)	Phinbart	I think it should be just during summer or periods where there is no new ep for about a month.
(20:42:05)	Phinbart	If we add it permanently, it will leave a gap in the page, left column or right column.
(20:42:13)	Freddie_	It will be a waste of space.
(20:42:57)	Phinbart	So, Did You Know? section in the summer?
(20:43:05)	Phinbart	Vote "I"/"Aye" or "Nay"
(20:43:07)	Rndomno	I think it's pointless just having it in gaps.
(20:43:08)	FatHomer	I
(20:43:08)	Phinbart	I
(20:43:19)	Phinbart	[20:43] <Phinbart> Vote "I"/"Aye" or "Nay"
(20:43:19)	Rndomno	Och nae!
(20:43:34)	Phinbart	Guessing that's a "Nay"
(20:43:39)	Cook879	Meh
(20:43:51)	Phinbart	Vote everyone.
(20:43:52)	AleWi	NJA
(20:43:54)	Rndomno	By the greatness of Scotland, I say nay!
(20:44:06)	Rndomno	Being Willie, as you can guess.
(20:44:09)	Phinbart	Randomno - transcript
(20:44:14)	Rndomno	Oh, yeah.
(20:44:17)	Rndomno	Okay.
(20:44:40)	Phinbart	It has gained interest, so should we go ahead with the idea when June 1 comes around (or even earlier)
(20:44:42)	Phinbart	?
(20:45:02)	FatHomer	yes
(20:45:34)	FatHomer	...
(20:45:39)	Phinbart	Next topic?
(20:45:48)	FatHomer	Framegrabs
(20:45:50)	Rndomno	What the vote?
(20:45:59)	Rndomno	For previous topic.
(20:46:02)	Phinbart	Yes, Randomno
(20:46:08)	Rndomno	
(20:46:08)	Phinbart	The vote was Yes
(20:46:19)	FatHomer	Framegrabs...
(20:46:23)	Phinbart	AleWi wanted to discuss framegrabs
(20:46:24)	Freddie_	Yes.
(20:46:31)	Rndomno	They take up a lot of space.
(20:46:35)	FatHomer	I vote yes
(20:46:39)	AleWi	Framegrabs take lots of memory space..
(20:46:41)	Freddie_	Oh, come on!
(20:46:47)	AleWi	Solar said also at we only should have 100 for every episode.
(20:46:55)	Rndomno	100 is pathetic.
(20:47:00)	AleWi	But the framegrabe is not complete then.
(20:47:00)	FatHomer	100 is too little
(20:47:02)	Rndomno	No-one will go to us.
(20:47:06)	Phinbart	That would mean about a framegrab every 2 mins
(20:47:18)	Rndomno	400 or more is suitable.
(20:47:22)	Cook879	Your rate for BTG is right AleWi - but too much space
(20:47:28)	Rndomno	I'd go for 500 - 600.
(20:47:29)	AleWi	But we has not limited space
(20:47:38)	AleWi	every picture take around 2 MB.
(20:47:49)	FatHomer	So?
(20:47:58)	Phinbart	we should limit the size of the framegrab then.
(20:48:05)	FatHomer	If we need more space, jake can buy it
(20:48:13)	AleWi	We have already bought an additional hard drive
(20:48:18)	AleWi	or Jake has
(20:48:43)	FatHomer	yeah but if we need it, he'll probaly buy it
(20:48:57)	FatHomer	*probably
(20:49:43)	FatHomer	vote?
(20:49:58)	Phinbart	I think we should limit the size of framegrabs (500px?)
(20:50:16)	Rndomno	It's not really a choice.
(20:50:20)	Cook879	Surely that devoids the point?
(20:50:26)	Rndomno	You get what your thingy made them.
(20:50:47)	AleWi	A fullscreen picture is 768 × 576
(20:50:59)	Phinbart	Meh.
(20:51:06)	FatHomer	we should not limit the framegrabs
(20:51:11)	Phinbart	So, are we finished with Framegrabs?
(20:51:35)	AleWi	We should continue with it
(20:51:39)	AleWi	without limited?
(20:51:41)	FatHomer	We should ask Jake if he can buy more space
(20:51:52)	AleWi	We don't know how much space we have left
(20:51:52)	FatHomer	yes, without limited
(20:51:55)	Phinbart	Classic episodes only with framegrabs?
(20:51:56)	Cook879	I think we need Jake's opinion
(20:52:17)	Rndomno	How about a wiki elsewhere?
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(20:52:31)	Cook879	Devoid the point, surely?
(20:52:33)	AleWi	Solar_Dragon is back!
(20:52:36)	Rndomno	Welcome back, Sólar_Dragon!
(20:52:41)	Phinbart	"Framesimpsons"? "Simpsonsgrabs"?
(20:52:42)	AleWi	We talking about framgrabs
(20:52:47)	Solar_Dragon	Yeah, not in an amazing mood today
(20:52:58)	FatHomer	Next topic: http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:Solar_Dragon/Episode_infobox
(20:52:59)	YourDaddy	Title: User:Solar Dragon/Episode infobox - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(20:52:59)	AleWi	we want do it without limited.
(20:53:03)	Rndomno	hang on!
(20:53:05)	Rndomno	*Hang
(20:53:11)	FatHomer	...
(20:53:16)	Phinbart	Randomno, really, a wiki for framegrabs?
(20:53:18)	Solar_Dragon	Yeah, that's not finished yet
(20:53:23)	Rndomno	Haven't finished this topic yet.
(20:53:25)	Phinbart	"Simpsonsgrabs" seems like a good name though
(20:53:36)	Rndomno	Discuss the name later, Phinbart.
(20:53:41)	Solar_Dragon	You mean like a wiki just for framegrabs?
(20:53:46)	Rndomno	Yes.
(20:53:47)	Solar_Dragon	Bad idea
(20:53:51)	FatHomer	yepp
(20:53:51)	Rndomno	Why?
(20:53:55)	AleWi	bad idea.
(20:53:57)	Solar_Dragon	I think we should scrap the framegrabs idea altogether
(20:53:59)	AleWi	people can't find it easy
(20:54:05)	Solar_Dragon	That for one
(20:54:09)	Rndomno	Yes, they could.
(20:54:14)	AleWi	why complicate things?
(20:54:17)	Solar_Dragon	And two, it would still take up considerable space on the server
(20:54:21)	Phinbart	Do you think it should just be for shorts?
(20:54:25)	Rndomno	As easily as they could find framegrabs now.
(20:54:37)	Phinbart	A lot of people haven't seem them.
(20:54:44)	Rndomno	No, I think we should have a separate wiki somewhere selse.
(20:54:48)	Rndomno	*else
(20:54:48)	FatHomer	I have
(20:54:53)	FatHomer	I don't
(20:55:01)	Rndomno	You do or you don't?
(20:55:07)	FatHomer	don't
(20:55:16)	Phinbart	I'm starting to like the idea now, but will it fail like Wik-E-Mart and the Chinese wiki?
(20:55:19)	supergeeky1	For what it's worth when it comes to the name, I vote for anything other than "Simpsonsgrabs," based purely on the fact that "Simpsonsgrabs" pings me.
(20:55:22)	AleWi	Fanfiction Simpsons is okey
(20:55:31)	Rndomno	But people know it's just about framegrabs.
(20:55:56)	AleWi	How do you know that?
(20:56:05)	Rndomno	It should only end up with 500 and a bit pages.
(20:56:07)	Phinbart	The logo could be a pic of the Wikisimpsons logo in a slanted picture frame.
(20:56:14)	FatHomer	It feels unnecessary to make a wiki just for framegrabs
(20:56:31)	Rndomno	Yeah, I know, but we might need to if we have framegrabs.
(20:56:40)	AleWi	why?
(20:56:40)	Rndomno	Also, how much does Wikia pay for server space?
(20:56:47)	Cook879	Who would host it?
(20:56:49)	FatHomer	a lot
(20:56:56)	Rndomno	AleWi: Server space.
(20:57:15)	supergeeky1	Wikia owns the servers.
(20:57:25)	Phinbart	Well, possibly Randomno since he came up with the idea for the wiki.
(20:57:48)	Phinbart	I could be co-founder because I came up with the idea for framegrabs in the first place.
(20:58:03)	Rndomno	I can't get a separate wiki.
(20:58:11)	FatHomer	I could
(20:58:29)	Rndomno	How, by the way?
(20:58:31)	FatHomer	But I don't think we should create a framegrab wiki
(20:59:02)	Solar_Dragon	^
(20:59:03)	Phinbart	FatHomer's thought about setting up Fish Hooks Wiki independently.
(20:59:33)	FatHomer	I payed for a webhotel 100gb and 2000gb traffic which I don't use
(20:59:47)	Cook879	Why'd you pay for it?
(21:00:11)	FatHomer	I created a website which I didn't work that much on...
(21:00:12)	Phinbart	But a framegrab wiki would get a LOT of traffic.
(21:00:24)	FatHomer	Over 2000gb/month
(21:00:26)	FatHomer	?
(21:00:35)	Solar_Dragon	No, I can 100% guarantee that it would have less than 20 visitors a day Phinbart
(21:00:52)	Solar_Dragon	And it'd still strain our servers
(21:00:53)	FatHomer	probably
(21:01:09)	Solar_Dragon	Which why I want to stop the framegrab thing
(21:01:35)	FatHomer	We should have framebrabs, but not on a seperate wiki
(21:01:58)	Rndomno	*framegrabs
(21:02:04)	FatHomer	...
(21:02:18)	Phinbart	We would be the only site around that keeps up to date with framegrabs though.
(21:02:33)	Phinbart	Simpsonspark, lardlad, babysimpson don't have framegrabs of the latest eps.
(21:02:43)	FatHomer	which is good for us
(21:02:49)	Phinbart	There's loads more sites that don't keep upto date with framegrabs though.
(21:02:49)	Rndomno	babysimpson.co.uk waits for them to air somewhere.
(21:02:49)	AleWi	we should have with out watermark
(21:02:56)	Rndomno	No.
(21:03:13)	Rndomno	That would be bad and no-one could get screenshots from them.
(21:03:24)	Rndomno	And it could be too hard to add them.
(21:03:33)	Phinbart	Users that can access The Simpsons full eps on Hulu and Fox.com vids could only get framegrabs without watermark.
(21:03:53)	Phinbart	And that's only for the United States
(21:03:59)	FatHomer	So... Should we ask Jake if we can have framegrabs?
(21:04:05)	FatHomer	and next topic?
(21:04:10)	Phinbart	There's also iTunes, which you get much better quality frmaegrabs off.
(21:04:22)	Phinbart	But there's only Season 1 and 2 on the UK iTunes store.
(21:04:33)	AleWi	You can buy them on Amazon.com if you live in US
(21:04:50)	FatHomer	or if you have a us account
(21:04:50)	AleWi	Season 1-14 and 20 can you find on DVD
(21:04:52)	Phinbart	Not many users are from the US
(21:05:01)	Phinbart	Season 20 isn't on DVD in the UK.
(21:05:06)	Phinbart	For some...strange...reason
(21:05:12)	FatHomer	in Sweden it is
(21:05:17)	Phinbart	I'm hoping to get an imported one from Sweden off Amazon.
(21:05:18)	AleWi	You can buy it with menu and sub on English
(21:05:33)	AleWi	The folder is also in english
(21:05:34)	FatHomer	It's also on blu-ray so much better images
(21:05:34)	Phinbart	I mean an imported one, with English language.
(21:05:40)	Cook879	It doesn't have commentary right?
(21:05:52)	AleWi	Season 20 has not commentary or deleted scene
(21:05:54)	Phinbart	I don't have a blu-ray player
(21:05:55)	AleWi	only the episodes
(21:06:01)	Cook879	that sucks
(21:06:10)	Phinbart	I think players are too expensive and the Blu-ray DVDs are expensive.
(21:06:10)	Rndomno	AleWi: Sorry, I thought you meant / our / watermark.
(21:06:24)	AleWi	http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Simpsons-Season-Complete-Region/dp/B0067JM3SU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335038778&sr=8-1
(21:06:29)	Phinbart	Why did they release Season 13 and 14 in Blu-Ray. They're not even in HD.
(21:06:36)	Cook879	Cos they can
(21:06:37)	AleWi	The Simpsons - Season 20 - Complete (Region 2) (Import)
(21:07:01)	AleWi	Skadinavian Edition, PAL/Region 2 DVD: Subtitles: Danish, Finnish, Norwegian, Swedish, English. Audio: English. The Simpsons: The Complete Twentieth Season.
(21:07:11)	Phinbart	That's what I'm hoping to get.
(21:07:14)	FatHomer	Next topic?
(21:07:33)	Phinbart	We'll discuss more with framegrabs and the wiki next meeting.
(21:07:42)	Phinbart	(May 5, I think)
(21:07:44)	FatHomer	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:Solar_Dragon/Episode_infobox
(21:07:45)	YourDaddy	Title: User:Solar Dragon/Episode infobox - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(21:07:57)	Phinbart	Think it's a good infobox
(21:08:03)	FatHomer	I don't
(21:08:13)	Cook879	Is there an example?
(21:08:13)	Phinbart	Similar to the Spanish Wikisimpsons on Wikia.
(21:08:22)	Phinbart	They have their promo images under a section in the infobox
(21:08:23)	AleWi	We should not hide the Episode Information
(21:08:35)	FatHomer	It looks ugly and you need to click for the information
(21:08:36)	Cook879	It's not auto-hidden
(21:08:44)	Cook879	only the promos are
(21:08:54)	FatHomer	it still looks ugly
(21:09:16)	Phinbart	Hmm....it does a bit...but
(21:09:17)	Rndomno	hang on!
(21:09:22)	Phinbart	I still like it
(21:09:26)	AleWi	Promos should we have under a gallery at the bottom
(21:09:38)	Rndomno	*Hang [I hape my Shift key]
(21:09:42)	Rndomno	*hate
(21:09:46)	Rndomno	And spelling.
(21:09:59)	Phinbart	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Wikisimpsons:Sandbox - infobox in action
(21:10:00)	YourDaddy	Title: Wikisimpsons:Sandbox - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(21:10:04)	Rndomno	Anyway, we need to decide using promos or framegrabs in the infobox first.
(21:10:37)	Cook879	I'd tend for having the gallery for promos as it is
(21:10:44)	FatHomer	I don't like templates in templates....
(21:10:44)	Cook879	if we have loads it would go on very long
(21:10:54)	Freddie_	A section dedicated to promos.
(21:11:12)	Phinbart	Correct...but we could have "View more promos here..." - would link to gallery of promos further down the page.
(21:11:28)	Phinbart	We could always create a Promotional images page with the promos on it...
(21:11:36)	Rndomno	We are missing a lot of promos.
(21:11:39)	Cook879	brb
(21:11:48)	Phinbart	Randomno - transcript.
(21:11:54)	Rndomno	Okay.
(21:12:00)	Phinbart	And FoxFlash's Simpsons page has deleted the other seasons from the sidebar.
(21:12:03)	Phinbart	Just Season 23 now.
(21:12:16)	Rndomno	Yeah. It's really annoying.
(21:12:20)	Phinbart	All the 500th ep stuff should be in a section called 500th episode