Wikisimpsons:Editor meetings/April 21st 2012

(20:09:58)	AleWi	Should we start the meeting?
(20:10:09)	Phinbart	HA! Beat you to it!
(20:10:24)	Phinbart	I waited till the computer clock went "08:10", then pressed enter.
(20:10:28)	AleWi	Censority
(20:10:38)	Phinbart	Randomno wanted to discuss this.
(20:10:47)	Phinbart	Rndomno Rndomno|Away
(20:10:56)	Rndomno	Yes?
(20:10:57)	AleWi	Randomno is not here
(20:11:00)	AleWi	Rndomno is here
(20:11:00)	Rndomno	DAMMIT!
(20:11:03)	AleWi	it's not same person
(20:11:08)	Freddie_	It is time!
(20:11:13)	Phinbart	You always get things late, AleWi
(20:11:27)	Phinbart	Right, Randomno, what was it you wanted to discuss about Censority?
(20:11:41)	Rndomno	Part 2. [dramatic music]
(20:11:55)	Rndomno	Well, we're not Wikipedia.
(20:12:11)	Solar_Dragon	We're not censoring anything
(20:12:14)	Solar_Dragon	NEXT TOPIC!
(20:12:17)	Rndomno	Shuddup.
(20:12:22)	AleWi	Some things about The Simpsons shorts
(20:12:23)	Rndomno	STAY ON TOPIC!
(20:12:35)	Phinbart	"(→List of things to be discussed: I know we've already discussed this, but I have some more points to bring up)" - in history
(20:12:44)	Rndomno	Yeah.
(20:12:58)	Rndomno	Okay, next, The Simpsons doesn't use any strong language.
(20:13:11)	Solar_Dragon	Yes, it has done
(20:13:17)	Solar_Dragon	See Will k's list of swear words
(20:13:21)	Rndomno	If we were a South Park wiki, users would expect to see some stuff.
(20:13:39)	AleWi	Some episodes have raiting 14 in US
(20:13:41)	Solar_Dragon	We're not censoring anything
(20:13:44)	Solar_Dragon	NEXT TOPIC!
(20:13:45)	Rndomno	Solar_Dragon: Not really strong, like f*** and s***.
(20:13:52)	Rndomno	STAY ON TOPIC!
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(20:13:59)	Solar_Dragon	Don't ping me, it lags my episode
(20:14:06)	Rndomno	Mehkay.
(20:14:12)	Phinbart	Right, so next topic?
(20:14:15)	Rndomno	NO!
(20:14:17)	AleWi	Solar go away then
(20:14:24)	Solar_Dragon	No
(20:14:28)	AleWi	Some things about The Simpsons shorts
(20:14:36)	Cook879	what things?
(20:14:39)	Rndomno	AleWi: Hold on!
(20:14:41)	AleWi	I don't know
(20:14:45)	Rndomno	Back a topic!
(20:14:51)	AleWi	No Rndomno
(20:14:53)	Rndomno	yes.
(20:14:56)	Rndomno	*Yes
(20:14:56)	Phinbart	How about we let Randomno speak
(20:15:04)	AleWi	Write what you want
(20:15:17)	AleWi	*sigh*
(20:15:31)	Rndomno	Right: If we were another wiki like a South Park or Family Guy one, users would expect to see strong language.
(20:15:55)	AleWi	Simpsons it's not a show for kids according producers, but they now kids watching.
(20:15:56)	Rndomno	We should be umm... precautioness.
(20:16:05)	Solar_Dragon	Sigh. Is that the only point you're bringing up?
(20:16:09)	Cook879	How "strong" is "wank"? They used that twice, uncensored last week
(20:16:24)	Solar_Dragon	The Simpsons has used lots of swear words.
(20:16:30)	Rndomno	Yeah, where was the second time by the way? I know Lenny's one.
(20:16:32)	AleWi	wank is not in US a bad word, but in in UK.
(20:16:42)	Rndomno	Sólar: Not that strong.
(20:16:52)	Phinbart	It was once said on Breakfast when some American guys were on
(20:16:53)	Solar_Dragon	They haven't used "cunt" yet, which is the worst swear word of them all, which is why we would censor that if we had it
(20:17:21)	AleWi	Everybody can some swear words when you are 5, 6 years old.
(20:17:39)	Phinbart	OK, have we finished discussing censority?
(20:17:45)	Solar_Dragon	We're not censoring anything
(20:17:47)	Rndomno	Everybody knows some?
(20:17:47)	Solar_Dragon	NEXT TOPIC!
(20:17:51)	Rndomno	No, Solar.
(20:18:01)	AleWi	Yes, Solar.
(20:18:03)	AleWi	Some things about The Simpsons shorts
(20:18:05)	Solar_Dragon	WE ARE NOT CENSORING ANYTHING!
(20:18:09)	Rndomno	I don't care if you don't want pinging. We need to finish this off.
(20:18:14)	Rndomno	Vote:
(20:18:15)	Solar_Dragon	Randomno, you are the ONLY one who disagrees
(20:18:21)	Solar_Dragon	Therefore, NEXT TOPIC!
(20:18:24)	Rndomno	NO!
(20:18:26)	Cook879	No
(20:18:28)	Rndomno	Vote first.
(20:18:36)	AleWi	Vote: No
(20:18:41)	Phinbart	Errrrr...
(20:18:41)	Rndomno	Just quickly say "yes" or "no".
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(20:18:50)	FatHomer	Hi!
(20:18:50)	Freddie_	Yes.
(20:18:51)	Phinbart	Hi, FatHomer
(20:18:52)	AleWi	Hej FatHomer.
(20:18:52)	Rndomno	Hi, FatHomer.
(20:18:52)	Solar_Dragon	NO, No Censoring.
(20:19:00)	Cook879	hey FatHomer
(20:19:00)	Solar_Dragon	That's my vote
(20:19:01)	Rndomno	Voting, then?
(20:19:03)	Phinbart	We're in the middle of a heated argument about censority
(20:19:06)	Cook879	I have!
(20:19:09)	FatHomer	What'sok
(20:19:19)	FatHomer	sorry
(20:19:31)	FatHomer	censor what?
(20:19:37)	Cook879	rude words
(20:19:40)	Rndomno	Swear words.
(20:19:56)	FatHomer	we should not do that
(20:20:03)	Rndomno	Okay, LISTEN. I don;t mind words that were on the show.
(20:20:06)	Rndomno	Only other ones.
(20:20:30)	Rndomno	Like Sneed's Feed and Seed Behind the Laughter, or Homer's Trivia section.
(20:20:38)	Solar_Dragon	We do not need to censor swear words
(20:20:39)	FatHomer	but I think users shouldn't swear
(20:20:45)	Solar_Dragon	We won't censor swear words
(20:20:59)	Phinbart	Right, change topic then?
(20:21:09)	Freddie_	Oh, come on!
(20:21:25)	Rndomno	Can we just count up votes?
(20:21:37)	Rndomno	So, 3 no, 1 yes, so far.
(20:21:40)	Cook879	Well count then!
(20:21:42)	Solar_Dragon	"Fuck". Everyone knows it. A lot of people use it.
(20:21:46)	Phinbart	Remember everyone I'M doing the transcript of the meeting
(20:21:50)	AleWi	The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where feed and seed both have the same suffix -eed. The shop was "Formerly Chuck's", meaning for the two words beginning with "F" and "S" to have the same suffix with Chuck's (-uck), the shop would have been called "Chuck's Fuck and Suck".
(20:21:50)	Rndomno	I don't.
(20:21:53)	Rndomno	I will.
(20:21:59)	Rndomno	For transcript.
(20:22:11)	Rndomno	Not I will use swear words.
(20:22:18)	Cook879	I swear more than 4 of us have voted
(20:22:25)	Rndomno	
(20:22:41)	AleWi	In one episode he was the only character in the show to say bulls**t but the "s**t" part was censored by a honk sound.
(20:22:45)	Cook879	I was being serious - I didn't intend for that statement to be comic
(20:22:52)	Rndomno	Oh.
(20:23:00)	Phinbart	We've already created a template for pages which have content that is not suitable for young children
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(20:23:11)	Rndomno	I know!
(20:23:13)	FatHomer	Hi!
(20:23:18)	Rndomno	Let's create an parameter!
(20:23:18)	AleWi	supergeeky1 it's 23 minutes past 3PM!
(20:23:21)	Rndomno	I'll do it.
(20:23:21)	AleWi	Hi supergeeky1!
(20:23:22)	Phinbart	Hi, supergeeky
(20:23:28)	Solar_Dragon	supergeeky1, Randomno is trying to make us censor swear words. What do you have to say about that?
(20:23:35)	Rndomno	So, no censority but warning, then.
(20:23:43)	FatHomer	yepp
(20:23:59)	supergeeky1	I have had it with these motherfucking pings in this motherfucking channel.
(20:24:01)	supergeeky1	^
(20:24:04)	Solar_Dragon	
(20:24:12)	Solar_Dragon	Snakes on a Plane
(20:24:33)	Phinbart	Right, move topic then?
(20:24:39)	Rndomno	Asgard.
(20:24:49)	AleWi	Cook879, Solar_Dragon, the site notice?
(20:25:01)	Phinbart	Change to "There is an editor meeting now"
(20:25:02)	AleWi	we have a meeting now!!!
(20:25:08)	FatHomer	Some things about The Simpsons shorts?
(20:25:10)	Solar_Dragon	I cried when the Asgard committed mass genocide in Stargate
(20:25:11)	Cook879	God - you guys are so demanding
(20:25:21)	supergeeky1	head-desks.
(20:25:46)	FatHomer	Some things about The Simpsons shorts?...
(20:25:48)	Phinbart	Guess I'm not doing the transcript any more: http://simpsonswiki.net/w/index.php?title=Wikisimpsons:Editor_meetings/April_21st_2012&curid=79186&diff=362927&oldid=362923
(20:25:49)	YourDaddy	Title: Wikisimpsons:Editor meetings/April 21st 2012 - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(20:25:56)	Rndomno	Yeah.
(20:25:59)	Phinbart	I told everyone I was doing the transcript.
(20:26:03)	Rndomno	The only problem is smileys on ChatZilla.
(20:26:08)	Phinbart	Right, Some things about the shorts.
(20:26:10)	Rndomno	I said "I will." earlier.
(20:26:18)	Cook879	who added it?
(20:26:22)	Phinbart	Me
(20:26:32)	Phinbart	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:Phinbart/Short_titles
(20:26:34)	YourDaddy	Title: User:Phinbart/Short titles - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(20:26:50)	Solar_Dragon	Go for Simpson World titles
(20:27:08)	Phinbart	No-one took notice of it when I created it
(20:27:08)	Cook879	Yeah
(20:27:13)	FatHomer	I agree
(20:27:17)	Cook879	I notice everything
(20:27:19)	AleWi	We vote it last time
(20:27:28)	AleWi	We should have Simpsons World.
(20:27:35)	FatHomer	?
(20:27:44)	Phinbart	Also, we should use the videos here: http://www.youtube.com/user/Homerpalooza1997 for short framegrabs. The vids are from the FIRST airing of the short.
(20:27:45)	YourDaddy	Title: Homerpalooza1997 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
(20:27:45)	FatHomer	oh yes
(20:27:52)	Rndomno	Woah, mama! This is the only edit meeting we've had on a "st" date.
(20:28:04)	Cook879	that's a lovely fact
(20:28:10)	Cook879	too bad it's off topic
(20:28:16)	Phinbart	Are you doing the meeting transcript, Randomno?
(20:28:25)	Rndomno	Yes.
(20:28:30)	Phinbart	OK
(20:28:34)	Rndomno	I'll add more in a few minutes.
(20:28:40)	Phinbart	So, what does everyone think?
(20:28:49)	Phinbart	Change wiki titles to Simpson World titles?
(20:28:52)	Phinbart	I
(20:28:54)	FatHomer	yes
(20:28:56)	Cook879	I
(20:29:01)	Freddie_	Yup!
(20:29:03)	AleWi	yes, we vote it last time
(20:29:20)	FatHomer	Next topic: A plots and B plots categories?
(20:29:32)	Cook879	Explain
(20:29:34)	AleWi	[20:46] <Phinbart> Simpsons World titles here: http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:Phinbart/Cut_short_scenes
(20:29:35)	YourDaddy	Title: User:Phinbart/Cut short scenes - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(20:29:36)	AleWi	[20:47] <YourDaddy> Title: User:Phinbart/Cut short scenes - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(20:29:37)	AleWi	[20:47] <@Solar_Dragon> And if I notice a title discrepancy with episodes, I change it to what Simpsons World says
(20:29:39)	AleWi	[20:47] <Phinbart> Yes.
(20:29:50)	Phinbart	[20:27] <Phinbart> Also, we should use the videos here: http://www.youtube.com/user/Homerpalooza1997 for short framegrabs. The vids are from the FIRST airing of the short. - should we?
(20:29:51)	AleWi	[20:47] <Phinbart> Next topic, then?
(20:29:52)	YourDaddy	Title: Homerpalooza1997 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
(20:30:34)	FatHomer	yes phinbart
(20:30:45)	Phinbart	Right, A plots and B plots categories
(20:30:52)	Cook879	Explain
(20:30:53)	Phinbart	I added it
(20:31:08)	FatHomer	so...
(20:31:15)	Phinbart	I think we should have A plots and B plots categories like the Infosphere has.
(20:31:22)	FatHomer	link?
(20:31:52)	Phinbart	http://theinfosphere.org/Category:A_plots_focusing_on_Fry
(20:31:52)	YourDaddy	Title: Category:A plots focusing on Fry - The Infosphere, the Futurama Wiki (at theinfosphere.org)
(20:32:00)	Phinbart	http://theinfosphere.org/Category:B_plots_focusing_on_Fry
(20:32:02)	YourDaddy	Title: Category:B plots focusing on Fry - The Infosphere, the Futurama Wiki (at theinfosphere.org)
(20:32:13)	FatHomer	Could we please remove YourDaddy?
(20:32:31)	Freddie_	That is an okay idea...
(20:32:38)	Cook879	meh
(20:32:57)	Phinbart	For "Moaning Lisa", it would be, A plots focusing on Lisa, B plots focusing on Homer, B plots focusing on Bart
(20:33:32)	FatHomer	I don't think we should have it
(20:33:48)	Rndomno	Me neither.
(20:33:59)	Phinbart	A plots and B plots?
(20:34:00)	Phinbart	I
(20:34:00)	AleWi	It can be too much categories
(20:34:12)	Phinbart	"I" or "Nay"
(20:34:18)	Freddie_	Nay.
(20:34:27)	Cook879	Nay
(20:34:28)	AleWi	Nay
(20:34:43)	Phinbart	Solar? FatHomer?
(20:34:48)	FatHomer	Nay
(20:34:52)	Freddie_	Nay, nay, nay, hurry up!
(20:34:53)	Solar_Dragon	What?
(20:34:59)	Phinbart	A plots and B plots?
(20:35:07)	Solar_Dragon	What about them?
(20:35:11)	FatHomer	...
(20:35:13)	Cook879	>_>
(20:35:17)	Phinbart	Read the discussion, Solar?
(20:35:20)	Solar_Dragon	cba
(20:35:21)	AleWi	We should not have them as categories
(20:35:30)	Solar_Dragon	And stop pinging me
(20:35:38)	AleWi	■Did You Know? section during the summer
(20:35:46)	Phinbart	Solar hasn't decided yet/
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(20:35:56)	AleWi	No Solar if you are he we can ping you
(20:35:59)	AleWi	Solar left!
(20:36:02)	AleWi	Hurray!
(20:36:08)	Phinbart	He said "cba"
(20:36:12)	FatHomer	Can't Be Arsed
(20:36:17)	Phinbart	Oh.
(20:36:23)	Phinbart	Right then.
(20:36:32)	Phinbart	Did You Know? section during the summer
(20:36:38)	FatHomer	?
(20:36:41)	Freddie_	?
(20:36:42)	Rndomno	Why during the summer?
(20:36:44)	Phinbart	It could replace "Upcoming episode"
(20:36:51)	Freddie_	Why?
(20:36:52)	Phinbart	Because then there's no episodes.
(20:36:53)	FatHomer	oh, yes we should
(20:37:03)	Cook879	Though space might be a bit confining
(20:37:03)	Rndomno	Meh.
(20:37:07)	Freddie_	Yes, sorry.
(20:37:14)	Phinbart	Two facts or something.
(20:37:15)	AleWi	Wikipedia has always Did You Know.
(20:37:19)	Rndomno	Think it's a bit pointless.
(20:37:39)	Freddie_	What is pointless?
(20:37:48)	Rndomno	Did You Know? section.
(20:37:51)	Phinbart	Did You Know section
(20:38:01)	Freddie_	How come? Rattle me!
(20:38:32)	FatHomer	should we vote?
(20:38:42)	Freddie_	Yes - Yes.
(20:38:54)	Phinbart	We could replace the Upcoming Episode section on the main page during the summer with the Did You Know? section because there's no episodes in the summer and three months for it to have a run.
(20:39:07)	Rndomno	But we know the next episode sometimes.
(20:39:25)	Cook879	Not till about 2-3 weeks before
(20:39:29)	FatHomer	I vote Yes
(20:39:32)	Phinbart	Yes, but it would be pointless putting it on the main page till around mid-August or something.
(20:39:49)	Phinbart	That's when everyone will be wondering what the Season 24 premiere is and when it will premiere.
(20:39:52)	Rndomno	http://simpsonswiki.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Next_Episode&diff=prev&oldid=220507 We knew it August 9.
(20:39:54)	YourDaddy	Title: Template:Next Episode - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(20:40:32)	Cook879	That's still 2 months
(20:40:36)	Phinbart	From June 1 to August ...20 then?
(20:40:48)	FatHomer	OK
(20:40:50)	Rndomno	I vote no. I think we should have it either permanently or not.
(20:40:53)	AleWi	In late may we have no new episode
(20:41:05)	AleWi	Wikipedia has it permanent.
(20:41:27)	Rndomno	We just remove the next episode template.
(20:41:28)	Phinbart	I think it should be just during summer or periods where there is no new ep for about a month.
(20:42:05)	Phinbart	If we add it permanently, it will leave a gap in the page, left column or right column.
(20:42:13)	Freddie_	It will be a waste of space.
(20:42:57)	Phinbart	So, Did You Know? section in the summer?
(20:43:05)	Phinbart	Vote "I"/"Aye" or "Nay"
(20:43:07)	Rndomno	I think it's pointless just having it in gaps.
(20:43:08)	FatHomer	I
(20:43:08)	Phinbart	I
(20:43:19)	Phinbart	[20:43] <Phinbart> Vote "I"/"Aye" or "Nay"
(20:43:19)	Rndomno	Och nae!
(20:43:34)	Phinbart	Guessing that's a "Nay"
(20:43:39)	Cook879	Meh
(20:43:51)	Phinbart	Vote everyone.
(20:43:52)	AleWi	NJA
(20:43:54)	Rndomno	By the greatness of Scotland, I say nay!
(20:44:06)	Rndomno	Being Willie, as you can guess.
(20:44:09)	Phinbart	Randomno - transcript
(20:44:14)	Rndomno	Oh, yeah.
(20:44:17)	Rndomno	Okay.
(20:44:40)	Phinbart	It has gained interest, so should we go ahead with the idea when June 1 comes around (or even earlier)
(20:44:42)	Phinbart	?
(20:45:02)	FatHomer	yes
(20:45:34)	FatHomer	...
(20:45:39)	Phinbart	Next topic?
(20:45:48)	FatHomer	Framegrabs
(20:45:50)	Rndomno	What the vote?
(20:45:59)	Rndomno	For previous topic.
(20:46:02)	Phinbart	Yes, Randomno
(20:46:08)	Rndomno	
(20:46:08)	Phinbart	The vote was Yes
(20:46:19)	FatHomer	Framegrabs...
(20:46:23)	Phinbart	AleWi wanted to discuss framegrabs
(20:46:24)	Freddie_	Yes.
(20:46:31)	Rndomno	They take up a lot of space.
(20:46:35)	FatHomer	I vote yes
(20:46:39)	AleWi	Framegrabs take lots of memory space..
(20:46:41)	Freddie_	Oh, come on!
(20:46:47)	AleWi	Solar said also at we only should have 100 for every episode.
(20:46:55)	Rndomno	100 is pathetic.
(20:47:00)	AleWi	But the framegrabe is not complete then.
(20:47:00)	FatHomer	100 is too little
(20:47:02)	Rndomno	No-one will go to us.
(20:47:06)	Phinbart	That would mean about a framegrab every 2 mins
(20:47:18)	Rndomno	400 or more is suitable.
(20:47:22)	Cook879	Your rate for BTG is right AleWi - but too much space
(20:47:28)	Rndomno	I'd go for 500 - 600.
(20:47:29)	AleWi	But we has not limited space
(20:47:38)	AleWi	every picture take around 2 MB.
(20:47:49)	FatHomer	So?
(20:47:58)	Phinbart	we should limit the size of the framegrab then.
(20:48:05)	FatHomer	If we need more space, jake can buy it
(20:48:13)	AleWi	We have already bought an additional hard drive
(20:48:18)	AleWi	or Jake has
(20:48:43)	FatHomer	yeah but if we need it, he'll probaly buy it
(20:48:57)	FatHomer	*probably
(20:49:43)	FatHomer	vote?
(20:49:58)	Phinbart	I think we should limit the size of framegrabs (500px?)
(20:50:16)	Rndomno	It's not really a choice.
(20:50:20)	Cook879	Surely that devoids the point?
(20:50:26)	Rndomno	You get what your thingy made them.
(20:50:47)	AleWi	A fullscreen picture is 768 × 576
(20:50:59)	Phinbart	Meh.
(20:51:06)	FatHomer	we should not limit the framegrabs
(20:51:11)	Phinbart	So, are we finished with Framegrabs?
(20:51:35)	AleWi	We should continue with it
(20:51:39)	AleWi	without limited?
(20:51:41)	FatHomer	We should ask Jake if he can buy more space
(20:51:52)	AleWi	We don't know how much space we have left
(20:51:52)	FatHomer	yes, without limited
(20:51:55)	Phinbart	Classic episodes only with framegrabs?
(20:51:56)	Cook879	I think we need Jake's opinion
(20:52:17)	Rndomno	How about a wiki elsewhere?
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(20:52:31)	Cook879	Devoid the point, surely?
(20:52:33)	AleWi	Solar_Dragon is back!
(20:52:36)	Rndomno	Welcome back, Sólar_Dragon!
(20:52:41)	Phinbart	"Framesimpsons"? "Simpsonsgrabs"?
(20:52:42)	AleWi	We talking about framgrabs
(20:52:47)	Solar_Dragon	Yeah, not in an amazing mood today
(20:52:58)	FatHomer	Next topic: http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:Solar_Dragon/Episode_infobox
(20:52:59)	YourDaddy	Title: User:Solar Dragon/Episode infobox - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(20:52:59)	AleWi	we want do it without limited.
(20:53:03)	Rndomno	hang on!
(20:53:05)	Rndomno	*Hang
(20:53:11)	FatHomer	...
(20:53:16)	Phinbart	Randomno, really, a wiki for framegrabs?
(20:53:18)	Solar_Dragon	Yeah, that's not finished yet
(20:53:23)	Rndomno	Haven't finished this topic yet.
(20:53:25)	Phinbart	"Simpsonsgrabs" seems like a good name though
(20:53:36)	Rndomno	Discuss the name later, Phinbart.
(20:53:41)	Solar_Dragon	You mean like a wiki just for framegrabs?
(20:53:46)	Rndomno	Yes.
(20:53:47)	Solar_Dragon	Bad idea
(20:53:51)	FatHomer	yepp
(20:53:51)	Rndomno	Why?
(20:53:55)	AleWi	bad idea.
(20:53:57)	Solar_Dragon	I think we should scrap the framegrabs idea altogether
(20:53:59)	AleWi	people can't find it easy
(20:54:05)	Solar_Dragon	That for one
(20:54:09)	Rndomno	Yes, they could.
(20:54:14)	AleWi	why complicate things?
(20:54:17)	Solar_Dragon	And two, it would still take up considerable space on the server
(20:54:21)	Phinbart	Do you think it should just be for shorts?
(20:54:25)	Rndomno	As easily as they could find framegrabs now.
(20:54:37)	Phinbart	A lot of people haven't seem them.
(20:54:44)	Rndomno	No, I think we should have a separate wiki somewhere selse.
(20:54:48)	Rndomno	*else
(20:54:48)	FatHomer	I have
(20:54:53)	FatHomer	I don't
(20:55:01)	Rndomno	You do or you don't?
(20:55:07)	FatHomer	don't
(20:55:16)	Phinbart	I'm starting to like the idea now, but will it fail like Wik-E-Mart and the Chinese wiki?
(20:55:19)	supergeeky1	For what it's worth when it comes to the name, I vote for anything other than "Simpsonsgrabs," based purely on the fact that "Simpsonsgrabs" pings me.
(20:55:22)	AleWi	Fanfiction Simpsons is okey
(20:55:31)	Rndomno	But people know it's just about framegrabs.
(20:55:56)	AleWi	How do you know that?
(20:56:05)	Rndomno	It should only end up with 500 and a bit pages.
(20:56:07)	Phinbart	The logo could be a pic of the Wikisimpsons logo in a slanted picture frame.
(20:56:14)	FatHomer	It feels unnecessary to make a wiki just for framegrabs
(20:56:31)	Rndomno	Yeah, I know, but we might need to if we have framegrabs.
(20:56:40)	AleWi	why?
(20:56:40)	Rndomno	Also, how much does Wikia pay for server space?
(20:56:47)	Cook879	Who would host it?
(20:56:49)	FatHomer	a lot
(20:56:56)	Rndomno	AleWi: Server space.
(20:57:15)	supergeeky1	Wikia owns the servers.
(20:57:25)	Phinbart	Well, possibly Randomno since he came up with the idea for the wiki.
(20:57:48)	Phinbart	I could be co-founder because I came up with the idea for framegrabs in the first place.
(20:58:03)	Rndomno	I can't get a separate wiki.
(20:58:11)	FatHomer	I could
(20:58:29)	Rndomno	How, by the way?
(20:58:31)	FatHomer	But I don't think we should create a framegrab wiki
(20:59:02)	Solar_Dragon	^
(20:59:03)	Phinbart	FatHomer's thought about setting up Fish Hooks Wiki independently.
(20:59:33)	FatHomer	I payed for a webhotel 100gb and 2000gb traffic which I don't use
(20:59:47)	Cook879	Why'd you pay for it?
(21:00:11)	FatHomer	I created a website which I didn't work that much on...
(21:00:12)	Phinbart	But a framegrab wiki would get a LOT of traffic.
(21:00:24)	FatHomer	Over 2000gb/month
(21:00:26)	FatHomer	?
(21:00:35)	Solar_Dragon	No, I can 100% guarantee that it would have less than 20 visitors a day Phinbart
(21:00:52)	Solar_Dragon	And it'd still strain our servers
(21:00:53)	FatHomer	probably
(21:01:09)	Solar_Dragon	Which why I want to stop the framegrab thing
(21:01:35)	FatHomer	We should have framebrabs, but not on a seperate wiki
(21:01:58)	Rndomno	*framegrabs
(21:02:04)	FatHomer	...
(21:02:18)	Phinbart	We would be the only site around that keeps up to date with framegrabs though.
(21:02:33)	Phinbart	Simpsonspark, lardlad, babysimpson don't have framegrabs of the latest eps.
(21:02:43)	FatHomer	which is good for us
(21:02:49)	Phinbart	There's loads more sites that don't keep upto date with framegrabs though.
(21:02:49)	Rndomno	babysimpson.co.uk waits for them to air somewhere.
(21:02:49)	AleWi	we should have with out watermark
(21:02:56)	Rndomno	No.
(21:03:13)	Rndomno	That would be bad and no-one could get screenshots from them.
(21:03:24)	Rndomno	And it could be too hard to add them.
(21:03:33)	Phinbart	Users that can access The Simpsons full eps on Hulu and Fox.com vids could only get framegrabs without watermark.
(21:03:53)	Phinbart	And that's only for the United States
(21:03:59)	FatHomer	So... Should we ask Jake if we can have framegrabs?
(21:04:05)	FatHomer	and next topic?
(21:04:10)	Phinbart	There's also iTunes, which you get much better quality frmaegrabs off.
(21:04:22)	Phinbart	But there's only Season 1 and 2 on the UK iTunes store.
(21:04:33)	AleWi	You can buy them on Amazon.com if you live in US
(21:04:50)	FatHomer	or if you have a us account
(21:04:50)	AleWi	Season 1-14 and 20 can you find on DVD
(21:04:52)	Phinbart	Not many users are from the US
(21:05:01)	Phinbart	Season 20 isn't on DVD in the UK.
(21:05:06)	Phinbart	For some...strange...reason
(21:05:12)	FatHomer	in Sweden it is
(21:05:17)	Phinbart	I'm hoping to get an imported one from Sweden off Amazon.
(21:05:18)	AleWi	You can buy it with menu and sub on English
(21:05:33)	AleWi	The folder is also in english
(21:05:34)	FatHomer	It's also on blu-ray so much better images
(21:05:34)	Phinbart	I mean an imported one, with English language.
(21:05:40)	Cook879	It doesn't have commentary right?
(21:05:52)	AleWi	Season 20 has not commentary or deleted scene
(21:05:54)	Phinbart	I don't have a blu-ray player
(21:05:55)	AleWi	only the episodes
(21:06:01)	Cook879	that sucks
(21:06:10)	Phinbart	I think players are too expensive and the Blu-ray DVDs are expensive.
(21:06:10)	Rndomno	AleWi: Sorry, I thought you meant / our / watermark.
(21:06:24)	AleWi	http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Simpsons-Season-Complete-Region/dp/B0067JM3SU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335038778&sr=8-1
(21:06:29)	Phinbart	Why did they release Season 13 and 14 in Blu-Ray. They're not even in HD.
(21:06:36)	Cook879	Cos they can
(21:06:37)	AleWi	The Simpsons - Season 20 - Complete (Region 2) (Import)
(21:07:01)	AleWi	Skadinavian Edition, PAL/Region 2 DVD: Subtitles: Danish, Finnish, Norwegian, Swedish, English. Audio: English. The Simpsons: The Complete Twentieth Season.
(21:07:11)	Phinbart	That's what I'm hoping to get.
(21:07:14)	FatHomer	Next topic?
(21:07:33)	Phinbart	We'll discuss more with framegrabs and the wiki next meeting.
(21:07:42)	Phinbart	(May 5, I think)
(21:07:44)	FatHomer	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:Solar_Dragon/Episode_infobox
(21:07:45)	YourDaddy	Title: User:Solar Dragon/Episode infobox - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(21:07:57)	Phinbart	Think it's a good infobox
(21:08:03)	FatHomer	I don't
(21:08:13)	Cook879	Is there an example?
(21:08:13)	Phinbart	Similar to the Spanish Wikisimpsons on Wikia.
(21:08:22)	Phinbart	They have their promo images under a section in the infobox
(21:08:23)	AleWi	We should not hide the Episode Information
(21:08:35)	FatHomer	It looks ugly and you need to click for the information
(21:08:36)	Cook879	It's not auto-hidden
(21:08:44)	Cook879	only the promos are
(21:08:54)	FatHomer	it still looks ugly
(21:09:16)	Phinbart	Hmm....it does a bit...but
(21:09:17)	Rndomno	hang on!
(21:09:22)	Phinbart	I still like it
(21:09:26)	AleWi	Promos should we have under a gallery at the bottom
(21:09:38)	Rndomno	*Hang [I hape my Shift key]
(21:09:42)	Rndomno	*hate
(21:09:46)	Rndomno	And spelling.
(21:09:59)	Phinbart	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Wikisimpsons:Sandbox - infobox in action
(21:10:00)	YourDaddy	Title: Wikisimpsons:Sandbox - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(21:10:04)	Rndomno	Anyway, we need to decide using promos or framegrabs in the infobox first.
(21:10:37)	Cook879	I'd tend for having the gallery for promos as it is
(21:10:44)	FatHomer	I don't like templates in templates....
(21:10:44)	Cook879	if we have loads it would go on very long
(21:10:54)	Freddie_	A section dedicated to promos.
(21:11:12)	Phinbart	Correct...but we could have "View more promos here..." - would link to gallery of promos further down the page.
(21:11:28)	Phinbart	We could always create a Promotional images page with the promos on it...
(21:11:36)	Rndomno	We are missing a lot of promos.
(21:11:39)	Cook879	brb
(21:11:48)	Phinbart	Randomno - transcript.
(21:11:54)	Rndomno	Okay.
(21:12:00)	Phinbart	And FoxFlash's Simpsons page has deleted the other seasons from the sidebar.
(21:12:03)	Phinbart	Just Season 23 now.
(21:12:16)	Rndomno	Yeah. It's really annoying.
(21:12:20)	Phinbart	All the 500th ep stuff should be in a section called 500th episode
(21:13:15)	Phinbart	...
(21:13:25)	Freddie_	...
(21:13:32)	FatHomer	...
(21:13:46)	FatHomer	vote?
(21:14:07)	Cook879	back - with cake and ice cream!
(21:14:10)	Phinbart	Maybe when we've decided the framegrabs/promo images in infobox thing
(21:14:18)	Rndomno	Yeah.
(21:14:26)	FatHomer	ok, next meeting then?
(21:14:34)	Phinbart	Topic...
(21:14:42)	FatHomer	Comic credits/appearance order - by series or date?
(21:14:44)	Phinbart	Comic credits/appearance order - by series or date?
(21:14:49)	FatHomer	...
(21:14:54)	Cook879	Bascially...
(21:14:57)	FatHomer	Who added it?
(21:15:02)	AleWi	???
(21:15:03)	Cook879	me. left me type
(21:15:11)	FatHomer	ok
(21:15:27)	AleWi	Aha, I think i understand
(21:15:33)	Cook879	do we go in date order, or by the series of comic - e.g. Simpsons, Bart, e.t.c
(21:15:41)	Cook879	Personally, i think date
(21:15:43)	AleWi	By date
(21:15:46)	Rndomno	Series then date.
(21:15:47)	FatHomer	date
(21:15:47)	AleWi	if we can
(21:15:55)	Cook879	I was about to sort it
(21:16:00)	Rndomno	Hang on...
(21:16:10)	FatHomer	hanging on...
(21:16:11)	Rndomno	What does credit/appearance mean?
(21:16:13)	Phinbart	Date
(21:16:16)	Rndomno	Now let go.
(21:16:20)	Phinbart	I mean series of comic
(21:16:27)	Cook879	Crew credits. Character/thing appearances
(21:16:37)	Rndomno	?
(21:16:40)	FatHomer	?
(21:16:44)	AleWi	Like http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Ian_Boothby
(21:16:45)	YourDaddy	Title: Ian Boothby - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(21:16:50)	AleWi	By date or series
(21:16:59)	Rndomno	Okay.
(21:17:05)	Rndomno	I understand now.
(21:17:05)	Phinbart	Series
(21:17:20)	FatHomer	date
(21:17:21)	Rndomno	Date, then, I think.
(21:18:07)	Cook879	So - vote - those in favour of date
(21:18:11)	AleWi	date
(21:18:30)	Rndomno	Aye! By the wrath of Scotland and the Scots!
(21:18:39)	Rndomno	Not including Geoff!
(21:18:45)	Rndomno	Anyway, yes.
(21:19:09)	AleWi	sorting after first publish date
(21:19:10)	FatHomer	date
(21:19:29)	Cook879	Phinbart?
(21:19:41)	Phinbart	I think date now.
(21:19:58)	AleWi	<Phinbart> Series
(21:20:07)	Phinbart	NOW I think date
(21:20:12)	Rndomno	We've had 5 new users today!
(21:20:18)	AleWi	Solar?
(21:20:20)	FatHomer	yaay
(21:20:24)	Solar_Dragon	WHAT?!
(21:20:34)	Rndomno	None have edited in main namespace.
(21:20:39)	AleWi	vote
(21:20:43)	Cook879	I don't think we cares
(21:20:47)	Rndomno	The only one who's actually edited edited their user page.
(21:21:01)	FatHomer	Next topic?
(21:21:09)	Rndomno	Err...
(21:21:15)	FatHomer	The end of projects
(21:21:16)	AleWi	The end of projects
(21:21:17)	supergeeky1	Rndomno: Let's hope they aren't scared away by the recent changes flooding.
(21:21:19)	Rndomno	The end of projects.
(21:21:21)	AleWi	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Blog:The_end_of_projects
(21:21:23)	YourDaddy	Title: Blog:The end of projects - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(21:21:31)	Cook879	Ahh - we need to conclude that
(21:21:33)	Rndomno	I vote yes, apart from re-watch.
(21:21:59)	FatHomer	I vote yes
(21:22:16)	FatHomer	They should be, as said, style guides
(21:22:20)	AleWi	Make them to Style guide
(21:22:42)	Phinbart	I vote that we keep Project Re-Watch, start it again in the summer when there will be probably a lot more editing.
(21:23:18)	Cook879	Ok - what about talk pages? Shall we just go down to the standard {{Talkheader}}
(21:23:27)	AleWi	I will not participate in "Project Re-Watch"
(21:23:36)	Cook879	^
(21:23:56)	AleWi	Can change it from Project to Type
(21:23:59)	AleWi	Type: Comic
(21:24:07)	AleWi	Type: Crew
(21:24:10)	FatHomer	cook, yes we should
(21:24:27)	FatHomer	or as AleWi, change type
(21:24:32)	FatHomer	vote about it?
(21:24:36)	Cook879	AleWi: What purpose would that serve?
(21:24:48)	Phinbart	Also, by the way, I'm bringing back the Merchandise Award in the summer, possibly before that in May.
(21:24:49)	AleWi	You find what type of article it is
(21:24:56)	Rndomno	How about a re-watch episode on the main page.
(21:25:03)	Rndomno	*?
(21:25:09)	Phinbart	But in the summer, it might be 3-days instead of a week.
(21:25:16)	FatHomer	Yes
(21:25:17)	Cook879	But it says that in the article
(21:25:19)	Rndomno	We nominate one every month like featured.
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(21:25:24)	Phinbart	Yes! Good idea Randomno!
(21:25:47)	Rndomno	But like a spotlight one.
(21:25:55)	Rndomno	*spotlight article
(21:26:13)	FatHomer	Feauter article...
(21:26:24)	Rndomno	Category:Episode stubs will help.
(21:26:34)	FatHomer	We can't have two "feautered articles"
(21:26:51)	Rndomno	Not exactly featured.
(21:27:04)	Rndomno	One is good, the other one needs to be good.
(21:27:11)	FatHomer	it will take up too much space on the homepage
(21:27:36)	FatHomer	there is 24 Category:Episode stubs
(21:27:39)	Phinbart	Did You Know? could be longer then Project Re-Watch section could fit in...?
(21:27:47)	FatHomer	maybe
(21:28:13)	FatHomer	Next topic: Letting admins win Golden Homers
(21:28:17)	Rndomno	But re-watch would be small.
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(21:28:30)	FatHomer	?
(21:28:32)	Rndomno	No content from the page.
(21:28:35)	Phinbart	I don't think we should let admins win Golden Homers.
(21:28:35)	Rndomno	Probably.
(21:28:41)	Rndomno	Oh, sorry.
(21:28:45)	Rndomno	Next topic.
(21:28:46)	Cook879	I don't think so
(21:28:52)	Rndomno	I'll just do transcript.
(21:29:06)	Phinbart	Then they would be nomed every month and win either Golden, Silver, and rarely Bronze.
(21:29:29)	FatHomer	I don't think admins should win Golden Homers, being an "Admin" is pretty big
(21:29:30)	AleWi	They should have a own award
(21:29:53)	Rndomno	It's just a right.
(21:30:03)	Rndomno	Doesn't make them a better editor.
(21:30:25)	FatHomer	only great editors becomes admins
(21:30:28)	FatHomer	....
(21:30:31)	supergeeky1	No.
(21:30:35)	Rndomno	I even forgot Mythigator was an admin once, and I nominated him because he was a good editor.
(21:30:37)	FatHomer	?
(21:30:43)	Rndomno	But
(21:30:48)	supergeeky1	As it stands, our current admins /are/ great editors.
(21:30:54)	Rndomno	*[pressed enter to soon]
(21:31:01)	supergeeky1	But that's not always the case. Many wikis use admins for purely technical reasons.
(21:31:10)	FatHomer	ok
(21:31:16)	Rndomno	Smiley12 is semi-active and a bureaucrat.
(21:31:35)	Cook879	But I think Golden Homer should be used as encouragement for new users to work hard
(21:31:42)	FatHomer	right, I don't think he should be a bureacrat
(21:31:56)	Rndomno	We barely have any new users nominated.
(21:32:51)	Phinbart	So, should we let admins win Golden Homers?
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(21:32:57)	Phinbart	"I"/"Aye" or "Nay"
(21:33:02)	FatHomer	Nay
(21:33:09)	AleWi	nay
(21:33:14)	Cook879	nay
(21:33:15)	supergeeky1	Aye.
(21:33:32)	Cook879	'cos I don't really care about getting the award
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(21:33:35)	Rndomno	5 nominated editors were nomiated last month.
(21:33:52)	Rndomno	Aye!
(21:34:22)	FatHomer	3 nay, 2 aye
(21:34:25)	Rndomno	C'mon!
(21:34:30)	AleWi	LisaloLisaLovr20​00 try three time add herself
(21:34:37)	Rndomno	But not everyone has voted.
(21:34:45)	AleWi	Solar, vote!!!
(21:34:51)	Cook879	have i?
(21:34:58)	Rndomno	He's going to be Nay.
(21:35:00)	Solar_Dragon	Vote on what?
(21:35:03)	Rndomno	Most likely.
(21:35:05)	AleWi	So, should we let admins win Golden Homers?
(21:35:06)	supergeeky1	!say Aye.
(21:35:09)	supergeeky1	Bah.
(21:35:11)	Phinbart	if admins should win Golden Homers, Solar
(21:35:13)	Freddie_	Nay.
(21:35:19)	supergeeky1	The only bot in the world that doesn't have a "say" command.
(21:35:21)	Solar_Dragon	Oh, yeah, but I'm opting myself out of it
(21:35:25)	Freddie_	I said I did but come on!
(21:35:37)	Rndomno	@say Aye
(21:35:38)	YourDaddy	Rndomno: Error: "say" is not a valid command.
(21:35:40)	supergeeky1	Didn't we already have a vote about this not two weeks ago?
(21:35:43)	Solar_Dragon	Someone needs to be able to hand it out without handing it to themselves
(21:35:43)	Rndomno	D'oh!
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(21:36:06)	Cook879	supergeeky1: Dunno - but the discussion thread continued so i added it to the meeting
(21:36:07)	Rndomno	Freddie_: Why now nay?
(21:36:08)	Phinbart	So, next topic?
(21:36:23)	Rndomno	hang on.
(21:36:25)	Rndomno	*Hang
(21:36:29)	Rndomno	Darn!
(21:36:37)	Rndomno	Why is it always that word?!
(21:36:41)	Rndomno	Anyway...
(21:36:55)	Rndomno	@help
(21:36:56)	YourDaddy	Rndomno: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
(21:37:06)	Rndomno	@help rss
(21:37:07)	YourDaddy	Rndomno: (rss <url> [<number of headlines>]) -- Gets the title components of the given RSS feed. If <number of headlines> is given, return only that many headlines.
(21:37:15)	supergeeky1	@repeat Aye.
(21:37:16)	YourDaddy	supergeeky1: Error: "repeat" is not a valid command.
(21:37:26)	Rndomno	@help say
(21:37:26)	YourDaddy	Rndomno: Error: There is no command "say".
(21:37:31)	AleWi	Links in new table style
(21:37:37)	Rndomno	...
(21:38:02)	Phinbart	Right, are we finished with Golden Homers?
(21:38:10)	Rndomno	Freddie_: Why now nay?
(21:38:11)	Phinbart	Good.
(21:38:12)	supergeeky1	No.
(21:38:20)	supergeeky1	I have two things to discuss at the end of the meeting.
(21:38:28)	Phinbart	There is a problem with the new table style.
(21:38:35)	Phinbart	Links appear as "{{{1}}}"
(21:38:45)	Rndomno	What new table style?
(21:39:17)	Phinbart	Randomno, Duh!
(21:39:25)	Rndomno	No. No duh.
(21:39:33)	Rndomno	Wrong wording.
(21:39:37)	Rndomno	It's not new.
(21:39:45)	Phinbart	Whatever.
(21:39:49)	Rndomno	It's better to call it a table template.
(21:39:54)	Rndomno	No, not whatever.
(21:39:54)	Phinbart	http://simpsonswiki.net/w/index.php?title=User:Phinbart/Episode_interruptions&diff=362256&oldid=362253
(21:39:56)	YourDaddy	Title: User:Phinbart/Episode interruptions - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(21:40:11)	Phinbart	http://simpsonswiki.net/w/index.php?title=User:Phinbart/Episode_interruptions&diff=prev&oldid=362253
(21:40:12)	YourDaddy	Title: User:Phinbart/Episode interruptions - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(21:40:28)	Rndomno	Phinbart: External links don't work in templates for some reason.
(21:40:37)	Phinbart	I know.
(21:40:38)	Rndomno	We discussed that before.
(21:40:48)	Cook879	Well it needs fixing
(21:40:51)	Phinbart	Solar, WHY DO EXTERNAL LINKS NOT WORK IN THE TABLE TEMPLATE?
(21:40:56)	Rndomno	In QuoteEx, Desc, etc.
(21:41:01)	Solar_Dragon	Dunno Phinbart
(21:41:02)	Rndomno	not just the table template.
(21:41:25)	Rndomno	*Not
(21:41:32)	Phinbart	We should ask Jake this.
(21:41:33)	Solar_Dragon	All templates
(21:42:06)	Phinbart	So, external links now do not work in...table template
(21:42:19)	Phinbart	QuoteEx, Desc templates that have been added to a page.




(22:02:40)	Cook879	But it kinda loses the effect that the order has
(22:02:48)	=-=	YOU are now known as Rndomno2
(22:02:54)	Phinbart	Move topic then?
(22:02:58)	Rndomno2	Can somebody do a quick log, please?
(22:02:59)	Solar_Dragon	Not yet Phinbart
(22:03:27)	Solar_Dragon	Well Cook879, unless you're willing to remove all the links and change the tables...
(22:03:37)	Rndomno2	Hello?!
(22:03:39)	Solar_Dragon	And make similar articles for every other language version
(22:03:41)	Rndomno2	Log?
(22:03:43)	Cook879	Well, a bot can remove links
(22:03:44)	Solar_Dragon	And complete them all
(22:03:56)	Cook879	What am I superman?
(22:04:00)	Rndomno2	Just the bits from "BRB" for me to now.
(22:04:07)	Rndomno2	Please!
(22:04:19)	Solar_Dragon	It seems like too much work and isn't that necessary.
(22:04:31)	Rndomno2	To what, Solar?
(22:04:46)	Cook879	Just 'cos it ain't complete, doesn't mean we can't/don't need it
(22:05:05)	Rndomno2	Cook879 Solar_Dragon AleWi Phinbart supergeeky1
(22:05:10)	Rndomno2	UnknownFork
(22:05:12)	Cook879	WHAT!
(22:05:16)	Rndomno2	Log, please?
(22:05:17)	supergeeky1	What?
(22:05:20)	AleWi	???
(22:05:20)	Phinbart	What?
(22:05:21)	Solar_Dragon	Rndomno2: http://pastebin.com/qX0mZAZ8
(22:05:22)	YourDaddy	Title: Log - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
(22:05:25)	Rndomno2	Just between my leaving and joining.
(22:05:27)	Solar_Dragon	I was making a damn log!
(22:05:28)	Rndomno2	Thank yoi.
(22:05:31)	Rndomno2	*you
(22:05:35)	Solar_Dragon	Be patient
(22:05:38)	Rndomno2	You ould have said "okay"...
(22:05:49)	supergeeky1	You obviously don't know Solar_Dragon well enough.
(22:05:49)	Rndomno2	I can't read minds.
(22:06:41)	Solar_Dragon	... Why the fuck do I have the "Make Way For Noddy" theme song stuck in my head?
(22:06:43)	Rndomno2	Okay, thank you.
(22:06:52)	Rndomno2	Solar: 'Cos he's addictive.
(22:07:08)	Solar_Dragon	I haven't heard it for years...
(22:07:11)	Rndomno2	May way for Noddy! He's eating up his head!
(22:07:16)	Solar_Dragon	Yet it's somehow just popped into my head
(22:07:25)	Phinbart	Change topic?
(22:07:36)	Rndomno2	Make way for Noddy! He just got out of bed [and he's really cranky]!
(22:07:38)	AleWi	Character slates
(22:07:42)	Rndomno2	Yes.
(22:07:54)	Rndomno2	I have some more things to discuss (like earlier).
(22:08:16)	supergeeky1	I have two things in particular for the end of the meeting.
(22:08:26)	Rndomno2	Firstly, how is it that Edna has a shiny slate, but Grampa has a normal one?!
(22:08:50)	Cook879	slate?
(22:08:58)	Rndomno2	Promo image.
(22:09:04)	Cook879	Oh
(22:09:15)	Rndomno2	http://babysimpson.co.uk/index.php?action=slates.
(22:09:20)	YourDaddy	Title: The War of the Simpsons - v3 - Pretending to Cry - Index (at babysimpson.co.uk)
(22:09:36)	Phinbart	We've already discussed the slates.
(22:09:42)	supergeeky1	Shiny?
(22:09:43)	Phinbart	Apparently, they're not official.
(22:09:47)	Rndomno2	There are also some PNG versions of those.
(22:09:51)	Rndomno2	How do we know?
(22:10:03)	Phinbart	Well, some of them anyway.
(22:10:10)	Cook879	Official will most likely have appeared on FoxFlash
(22:10:14)	Phinbart	We discussed it a while back now.
(22:10:15)	Rndomno2	How do we know http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/File:Edna_Krabappel.png is official.
(22:10:16)	Cook879	and have Matt's signature
(22:10:17)	YourDaddy	Title: File:Edna Krabappel.png - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(22:10:17)	Rndomno2	*?
(22:10:20)	Rndomno2	No signature.
(22:10:46)	Rndomno2	Or http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/File:Ned_Flanders.png.
(22:10:56)	|<--	Rndomno|Away has left freenode (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
(22:11:13)	Phinbart	His glasses/eyes look a bit too far apart
(22:11:21)	Cook879	Chances are the person who transparented them would have removed them
(22:11:29)	supergeeky1	The Edna image originally came from a pack of promotional images made by Fox.
(22:11:29)	Rndomno2	Or http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/File:Seymour_Skinner.png.
(22:11:33)	supergeeky1	According to Wikipedia, anyway.
(22:11:36)	Rndomno2	Where?
(22:11:50)	supergeeky1	http://www.thesimpsons.com/postercontest/
(22:11:55)	Solar_Dragon	I've found an official image of Edna on FoxFlash]
(22:11:55)	supergeeky1	That page, which sadly no longer exists.
(22:12:11)	Cook879	but it's a different pose
(22:12:24)	Rndomno2	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Edna_Krabappel.png No signature.
(22:12:27)	YourDaddy	Title: File:Edna Krabappel.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
(22:12:48)	Phinbart	http://babysimpson.co.uk/index.php?img=gallery/slates/group_1.jpg - is from the cover of Simpsons Monopoly I think
(22:12:49)	YourDaddy	Title: The War of the Simpsons - v3 - Pretending to Cry - Image Viewer (at babysimpson.co.uk)
(22:13:38)	Rndomno2	http://www.foxflash.com/div.php/main/page?aID=1z2z2z175z5z5 Official.
(22:13:41)	YourDaddy	Title: FOX FLASH - FOX PRIMETIME (at www.foxflash.com)
(22:13:44)	Rndomno2	Ned isn't shiny.
(22:13:51)	Phinbart	thesimpsons.com/postercontest?
(22:13:56)	Rndomno2	Or Moe.
(22:14:00)	AleWi	Why is this important?
(22:14:05)	Rndomno2	Or Krusty.
(22:14:07)	supergeeky1	I still don't understand what you mean by shiny.
(22:14:14)	supergeeky1	Are you talking about shading?
(22:14:18)	Rndomno2	They have glows and shadows.
(22:14:20)	Rndomno2	And stuff.
(22:14:50)	supergeeky1	That could be an addition made by fans, but it's likely just updated promotional images.
(22:14:51)	Phinbart	Change topic?
(22:14:56)	Rndomno2	No.
(22:15:11)	Rndomno2	But where are they from?
(22:15:17)	Rndomno2	The ones with shading.
(22:15:26)	Rndomno2	I'll check Wikia quickly.
(22:16:59)	Rndomno2	http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/File:Krabappelsexy.jpg.
(22:17:01)	YourDaddy	Title: File:Krabappelsexy.jpg. - Simpsons Wiki (at simpsons.wikia.com)
(22:17:05)	Rndomno2	Earlier image.
(22:17:15)	Cook879	What a file name!
(22:17:42)	AleWi	next topic?
(22:18:19)	Rndomno2	http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/PanadolForte Added the good images.
(22:18:21)	YourDaddy	Title: User contributions for PanadolForte - Simpsons Wiki (at simpsons.wikia.com)
(22:18:25)	Rndomno2	Anyway...
(22:18:46)	AleWi	Next editor meeting
(22:19:04)	AleWi	April, 22
(22:19:05)	Phinbart	May 5
(22:19:07)	Rndomno2	May 12.
(22:19:27)	Phinbart	We're supposed to have a meeting every two weeks
(22:19:28)	Rndomno2	Depends on amount of things to discuss at that point.
(22:19:34)	AleWi	Between this and last meeting it was 12 days
(22:19:36)	Rndomno2	
(22:19:39)	AleWi	and the meeting take 2 houers
(22:19:41)	AleWi	hours
(22:19:49)	Phinbart	Is everyone off school on May 7?
(22:19:52)	Rndomno2	I'll do log quickly.
(22:19:56)	Cook879	Me no no
(22:20:10)	Phinbart	Oh. Thought we could have meeting on May 7.
(22:20:13)	Phinbart	I think May 5 then.
(22:20:26)	Cook879	Why can't we if we have "school"
(22:20:27)	Solar_Dragon	Found the official image: http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/File:Edna_Krabappel.png
(22:20:29)	YourDaddy	Title: File:Edna Krabappel.png - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(22:21:00)	AleWi	My little sister works on saturday
(22:21:05)	AleWi	but it was off topic
(22:21:08)	Phinbart	So May 5?
(22:21:41)	Rndomno2	I suppose so.
(22:21:48)	Rndomno2	Or May 6.
(22:21:53)	Rndomno2	That's a Sunday.
(22:22:01)	Rndomno2	But I'd prefer May 5.
(22:22:06)	Phinbart	Yeah.
(22:22:14)	Rndomno2	So, May 5 for now.
(22:22:23)	Rndomno2	I have to go, though.
(22:22:33)	AleWi	end of meeting
(22:22:35)	Rndomno2	Can we close the meeting?
(22:22:37)	Phinbart	Have to go. Smell ya later.

Nonsense

(22:22:38)	Rndomno2	hang on.
(22:22:41)	Rndomno2	*hang
(22:22:45)	Rndomno2	*Hang
(22:22:51)	Rndomno2	(Again!!!!!!!)
(22:22:52)	supergeeky1	Per Rndomno2. Again, I have two things to discuss at the end.
(22:23:04)	Rndomno2	Anything good?
(22:23:13)	Rndomno2	Not more Chuck Berry videos?
(22:23:27)	Rndomno2	Or Jay Sherman.
(22:23:37)	supergeeky1	That wasn't a Chuck Berry video. That was a Burl Ives video, thank you very much.
(22:23:43)	Rndomno2	Shuddup.
(22:23:44)	supergeeky1	And it was highly important to Wikisimpsons' future.
(22:23:53)	Rndomno2	
(22:24:02)	supergeeky1	But seriously, I have two things to add to the discussion whenever you're done with your thing.
(22:24:17)	AleWi	Reading Ned's list of lefties.
(22:24:17)	Rndomno2	What are they?
(22:24:19)	AleWi	It's many
(22:24:25)	Rndomno2	(I have a bad feeling about this.)
(22:24:50)	supergeeky1	I'd prefer to go last.
(22:25:02)	supergeeky1	So does anyone else have anything to add to the meeting before I'm up?
(22:25:25)	Rndomno2	No.
(22:25:30)	Rndomno2	Hurry up.
(22:25:38)	Rndomno2	Unless it's going to be rubbish.
(22:25:43)	supergeeky1	Okay. Firstly, this: http://simpsonswiki.net/w/index.php?title=Wikisimpsons:Editor_meetings/April_21st_2012&action=history
(22:25:45)	YourDaddy	Title: Revision history of "Wikisimpsons:Editor meetings/April 21st 2012" - Wikisimpsons, the Simpsons Wiki (at simpsonswiki.net)
(22:25:46)	supergeeky1	Needs to stop.
(22:25:49)	Rndomno2	In that case, go and lick a toilet.
(22:25:51)	supergeeky1	It's flooding the recent changes.
(22:25:53)	Rndomno2	No, sorry.
(22:25:58)	supergeeky1	Can't we wait until the end of the meeting to post logs?
(22:25:59)	Rndomno2	if it's nonsense do that.
(22:26:05)	Rndomno2	*If
(22:26:06)	Rndomno2	Maybe.
(22:26:15)	Rndomno2	It was Matt's idea,
(22:26:17)	Rndomno2	*.
(22:26:23)	supergeeky1	Seriously, I thought we decided on this several months ago after Phinbart log-bombed the RC.
(22:26:43)	supergeeky1	It doesn't make any sense to do it every few minutes. It accomplishes nothing.
(22:27:02)	Rndomno2	It did help as I had to switch accounts.
(22:27:03)	|<--	Phinbart has left freenode (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
(22:27:15)	Rndomno2	Anyway, we probably won't next time.
(22:27:18)	Rndomno2	Next one?
(22:27:29)	supergeeky1	Right, but there are 8 people in the channel at the moment. Every one of them is keeping logs.
(22:27:39)	Rndomno2	Yes?
(22:27:47)	Cook879	i wasn't - i'm in webchat as freenode died
(22:28:00)	Cook879	*mIRC died
(22:28:14)	Cook879	but nevertheless, 7 people
(22:28:24)	Rndomno2	then, what, supergeeky1?
(22:28:30)	supergeeky1	Right, but the users who disconnect are very few. The majority remain connected throughout the entire meeting, and I'm sure they'd be more than willing to post it at the end.
(22:28:32)	Rndomno2	I really need to wait for the meeting to end.
(22:28:44)	Rndomno2	But they have different designs.
(22:29:01)	Rndomno2	ChatZilla and Freenode are different.
(22:29:08)	supergeeky1	So?
(22:29:15)	supergeeky1	They can post the logs in their entirety.
(22:29:20)	supergeeky1	Same design.
(22:29:20)	Rndomno2	And my time design is different.
(22:29:32)	Rndomno2	(hour:minute:second) is mine.
(22:29:39)	Rndomno2	It's unique on this channel.
(22:29:48)	supergeeky1	If only one person is posting the logs, then surely the time layout is going to be the same.
(22:29:50)	AleWi	I don't can stand live with Rndomno2
(22:29:57)	Rndomno2	It's better if one user does it.
(22:30:04)	Rndomno2	Anyway, can we end now?
(22:30:08)	supergeeky1	Exactly. One person. All at once.
(22:30:13)	AleWi	Bye Cook879, Solar_Dragon, supergeeky1, UnknownFork.
(22:30:18)	Cook879	night
(22:30:20)	<--|	AleWi has left #wikisimpsons ("See you in hell, pal!")
(22:30:36)	Rndomno2	Okay, bye.
(22:30:39)	supergeeky1	Anyway, that was just a quick question that I had pertaining to the logging.
[17:30:37] <supergeeky1> Second thing: I'd like to setup a special holiday on Wikisimpsons.  Now before you call me crazy, let me explain.
[17:31:03] <@Solar_Dragon> Occasionally, you can get so many messages that the last messages are removed from the top of ChatZilla
[17:31:06] <@Solar_Dragon> There's a limit
[17:31:29] <supergeeky1> My holiday idea: I don't think hot girls get the recognition they deserve.  Just like us, they have problems, and I'm looking to spread awareness about this on a suitable site.  I believe Wikisimpsons is that site.
[17:31:39] <supergeeky1> As you can see here, hot girls have many problems: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__HeE6NWmDE
[17:31:40] <YourDaddy> Title: Hot Problems (official single) - Double Take - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
[17:31:51] <supergeeky1> I'm sure most, if not all of you weren't aware of this, either.
[17:31:58] <Rndomno2> :|
[17:32:10] <supergeeky1> I'm proposing on April 15th, we celebrate Hot Girls Appreciation Day.
[17:32:15] <supergeeky1> Every year.
[17:32:28] <Rndomno2> Can you finish?!
[17:32:32] <Rndomno2> I need to end the log!
[17:32:39] <supergeeky1> We raise awareness to the many problems that hot girls commonly experience.
[17:32:43] <@Cook879> I did not know this was such a big issue
[17:32:45] <Rndomno2> Shuddup.
[17:32:55] <Rndomno2> Do you have anything useful left?
[17:32:59] <supergeeky1> Textbook perfection, for instance, really takes a lot.
[17:33:07] <Rndomno2> Please...?
[17:33:13] <supergeeky1> And in the words of the great Miley Cyrus, "I can't be tamed."
[17:33:25] <@Cook879> Don't you see this is a big problem Rndomno2 ?
[17:33:28] <Rndomno2> I REALLY NEED TO GO!
[17:33:36] <supergeeky1> Just imagine if weird guys called you the phone all the time.
[17:33:38] <Rndomno2> BUT I NEED TO ADD THE REST OF THE LOG!
[17:33:46] <supergeeky1> Like Solar_Dragon.
[17:33:56] <Rndomno2> supergeeky1: Do I need to add this rubbish>
[17:33:57] <Rndomno2> *?
[17:34:07] <@Solar_Dragon> I don't have weird guys calling me on the phone all the time...
[17:34:07] <supergeeky1> I think it's very important that you do.
[17:34:14] <supergeeky1> No, you just make the calls.
[17:34:20] <Rndomno2> Then hurry up about it.
[17:34:27] <@Solar_Dragon> :P
[17:34:31] <supergeeky1> Seriously, hot girls just want to have fun.
[17:34:44] <supergeeky1> They don't deserve the many rumors they receive.
[17:35:20] <supergeeky1> And while I don't want to say any names in particular (**cough** Rndomno2), we haven't been the most hot girl-friendly society on the internet.
[17:35:42] <supergeeky1> In fact, we've been mighty cruel.  This is why Hot Girls Appreciation Day /must/ happen.
[17:35:43] <UnknownFork> lol
[17:36:00] <Rndomno2> Have to go.
[17:36:10] * Rndomno2 is now known as Rndomno|Away
[17:36:41] <supergeeky1> So, let's have a vote.  Every April 15th, we celebrate the wonderful things that hot girls bring to our world and spread awareness about their problems.
[17:36:58] <@Cook879> I
[17:37:02] <supergeeky1> I/Aye or Nay/No for Hot Girls Appreciation Day.
[17:37:07] <supergeeky1> Aye.
[17:37:09] <Rndomno|Away> Nay.
[17:37:13] <Rndomno|Away> Now quickly.
[17:37:20] <Rndomno|Away> SHUT UP!
[17:37:27] <supergeeky1> Also, I volunteer Rndomno|Away to write the project page about this holiday.
[17:37:30] <@Cook879> I think I know why Rndomno|Away is so against this
[17:37:38] <@Solar_Dragon> He's gay :|
[17:37:39] <Rndomno|Away> Shut up.
[17:37:43] <Rndomno|Away> Please, finish,
[17:37:46] <Rndomno|Away> I'm straight.
[17:37:52] <@Cook879> i was gonna do that much more dramatically Solar_Dragon  :P
[17:37:53] <Rndomno|Away> Anyway...
[17:37:58] <Rndomno|Away> Finish?
[17:38:05] <Rndomno|Away> I need to get this down.
[17:38:07] <supergeeky1> Rndomno|Away: Seriously, they may have the looks and the butt, but that doesn't make them a slut.
[17:38:11] <supergeeky1> There's no need to spread your hate.
[17:38:13] <@Solar_Dragon> As straight as a circle Randomno :|
[17:38:17] <UnknownFork> supergeek1: I
[17:38:19] <Rndomno|Away> Is it finished now?!
[17:38:25] <Rndomno|Away> Do I need to copy this?
[17:38:30] <Rndomno|Away> Or is it useless.
[17:38:32] <Rndomno|Away> *?
[17:38:34] <@Cook879> YES
[17:38:41] <@Cook879> This is the best convo all meeting
[17:38:42] <Rndomno|Away> Yes to what?
[17:38:48] <supergeeky1> I'm glad we could come to a decision about this.
[17:38:52] <@Cook879> Where's Phinbart - he'd love this
[17:38:53] <supergeeky1> April 15th it is.
[17:38:56] <Rndomno|Away> Then finish quick.
[17:39:08] <Rndomno|Away> Or copy every bit of the nonsense.
[17:39:18] <Rndomno|Away> Okay, WHO WANTS TO TAKE OVER?!
[17:39:29] <supergeeky1> You were the one that wanted to be in charge of logging.
[17:39:32] <Rndomno|Away> Just copy the nonsense and put it in a new section.
[17:39:40] <Rndomno|Away> Well, I REALLY need to go.
[17:39:51] <Rndomno|Away> Please do it.
[17:40:01] <Rndomno|Away> Your fault if you don't.
[17:40:04] <supergeeky1> Okay, the vote is over then.  Happy belated Hot Girls Appreciation Day.
[17:40:08] <supergeeky1> See you next year.
[17:40:19] <supergeeky1> Meeting over?