Wikisimpsons:Editor meetings/December 20th
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[20:10:33] <Solar_Dragon> And meeting is to start now! [20:10:50] <Phinbart> New template code. [20:10:54] <AleWi> no Next editor meeting [20:11:02] =-= AleWi was booted from #wikisimpsons by YOU (AleWi) [20:11:02] -->| AleWi (~chatzilla@83.251.68.197) has joined #wikisimpsons [20:11:25] <Solar_Dragon> Okay then, everyone has seen my new code. We just need to implement it on all tables [20:11:33] <Smiley12> I havent seen it [20:11:37] <Phinbart> That is going to be hard. [20:11:37] <AleWi> I have [20:11:55] <AleWi> It's little hard to use if you are new on it [20:11:56] <Cook879> If someone makes a list I may start... [20:11:56] <Doh5678> The code is good, a simpler way to make tables without all the code [20:12:16] <Solar_Dragon> Smiley12: http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Pokemon [20:12:21] <Solar_Dragon> Press edit on that to see what I did [20:12:53] <Smiley12> I see what you did [20:13:09] <Solar_Dragon> Basically, it cuts down on a lot of code, makes it simpler to set up tables and looks good :P [20:13:23] <AleWi> I think the code before was easier [20:13:34] <Phinbart> Me too. [20:13:35] <AleWi> It the same they use on Wikpiedia [20:13:46] <Solar_Dragon> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Template:Table <- That might help AleWi [20:14:03] <Phinbart> I prefer the old one. [20:14:12] <Smiley12> yep, I like the new one better [20:14:24] <Smiley12> only problem is the process of turning all old ones into hte new one [20:14:37] <Doh5678> A mountain of random letters and numbers and symbols, that's better? [20:14:54] <AleWi> When it's colspan and rowspan it's harder [20:15:00] <Solar_Dragon> Yeah, but if we ever decide to change the table style again, it will also mean 1 change rather than hundreds [20:15:09] <Phinbart> Huh? That's an easy part for me. [20:15:22] <Phinbart> The colspan and rowspan thing [20:15:27] <AleWi> If you use the template in the menu is the old system [20:15:28] <Solar_Dragon> Col and Rowspans are fairly simple with the new template too [20:15:40] <Smiley12> Solar_Dragon, will this new table template fit other differnt table designs as well? [20:15:54] <Solar_Dragon> What do you mean other different table designs? [20:16:00] <Phinbart> Are you doing the log, Solar? [20:16:18] <Solar_Dragon> I will update it every 10 minutes or so Phinbart [20:16:22] <Solar_Dragon> It's only been 6 [20:16:34] <Phinbart> OK. [20:16:35] <AleWi> In the edit menu is still the old table [20:16:36] <Cook879> Like: http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/List_of_episodes_by_production_code ? [20:16:54] <Cook879> how would the colours work? [20:16:58] <Solar_Dragon> Oh god >_> [20:17:16] <Doh5678> Shit [20:17:18] <Solar_Dragon> Well, I could make a slight change to the table, add one more parameter which allows you to change colours too [20:17:32] <Doh5678> Do that [20:17:34] <AleWi> Should we have it on http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/List_of_episodes too? [20:17:41] <Doh5678> With the code? [20:17:44] <Smiley12> Solar_Dragon, not all tables are those grid shapes, some are more complex (Ive seen them on the wiki, cant remember any) [20:18:12] <Cook879> that one uses eptable AleWi [20:18:12] <AleWi> We have eptable there now [20:18:13] <Solar_Dragon> All tables are basically grids Smiley12... [20:19:08] <Cook879> Could eptable be used on production, or a different version? [20:19:27] <Smiley12> meh [20:20:56] <Solar_Dragon> Basically, we need to try and get this out on all table articles though [20:21:18] <Solar_Dragon> For those of you not that confident with the code, I would suggest copying to a user subpage and editing there [20:21:26] -->| UnknownFork (~Eoin@unaffiliated/unknownfork) has joined #wikisimpsons [20:21:32] <AleWi> Hi UnknownFork [20:21:33] <Phinbart> Hi, UnknownFork! [20:21:34] <Solar_Dragon> So if you make a mistake, it wouldn't be seen by many people [20:21:36] <AleWi> YOUR LATE!!! [20:21:37] <UnknownFork> Hi [20:22:00] <Cook879> As I said, make a list and i'll do some now [20:22:07] <AleWi> I'm usually copy an article when I creating a new [20:22:26] <Solar_Dragon> Cook879, there's a list on the Cultural references template basically :P [20:23:28] <Cook879> I notice that AleWi - I do the same [20:23:49] <AleWi> I take a smilar article [20:24:02] <Solar_Dragon> I had to do that with the normal table code. However, with the new templates, I don't have to :P [20:24:15] <AleWi> *smilar , [20:24:33] <Solar_Dragon> Although http://simpsonswiki.net/w/index.php?title=First_Church_of_Springfield_marquee&action=edit <- That did get confusing [20:25:12] <AleWi> The season list is not good [20:25:32] <Solar_Dragon> What do you mean? [20:25:35] <Phinbart> Shall we move onto the next subject? [20:25:42] <Doh5678> Not yet [20:25:58] <AleWi> They should be a line on the right side too [20:26:10] <Solar_Dragon> You mean like the timeline template? [20:26:24] <AleWi> at the the first column [20:26:47] <Solar_Dragon> Oh right, I see [20:26:48] <UnknownFork> at the the first column [20:27:40] <Solar_Dragon> Yeah, but there's one problem with having the seasons column first, the rowspans make the code get incredibly confusing [20:27:58] <Solar_Dragon> See the Marquee article for instance [20:28:00] <AleWi> It was so before [20:28:07] <UnknownFork> It was so before [20:28:14] <Solar_Dragon> No, this had me stumped for a bit before I created a workaround [20:28:18] <AleWi> UknownFork is a dork [20:28:21] =-= UnknownFork was booted from #wikisimpsons by YOU (stop repeating) [20:28:53] <Solar_Dragon> I had to introduce Template:TableBodyBottom as well which can make things even more confusing [20:28:59] -->| UnknownFork (~Eoin@unaffiliated/unknownfork) has joined #wikisimpsons [20:29:04] <UnknownFork> kk' [20:30:16] <Solar_Dragon> So, yeah, the tables mainly need to be changed on the cultural references template pages [20:30:29] <Solar_Dragon> The TV shows and movies that have been references to in the show [20:31:29] <Solar_Dragon> Okay now, I think it's time to move on now if everyone's satisfied with what we have to do [20:31:35] <Phinbart> Song infoboxes [20:31:47] <Phinbart> brb [20:31:48] <AleWi> I have ad it on two pages [20:31:51] <AleWi> *add [20:32:19] <Doh5678> Is this for fictional or real songs? [20:32:29] <AleWi> Song in Simpsons [20:32:32] <Solar_Dragon> The song infobox is for all song pages [20:32:43] <Solar_Dragon> And my keyboard froze up then :S [20:32:45] <AleWi> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Template:Song [20:32:50] <Doh5678> OK [20:33:01] <Solar_Dragon> Every button hit made it make a noise XD [20:33:08] <AleWi> Right now it's, name, image, singers, characters, length, writer, album and appearance [20:33:37] <Solar_Dragon> Singers is the voice actors/people who performed the song [20:33:39] <AleWi> You probably have sticky keys on [20:33:50] <Solar_Dragon> No, I had to turn it on to make it work again XD [20:33:58] <Solar_Dragon> That was weird [20:34:12] <Solar_Dragon> Well, I got sticky keys up then pressed no [20:34:34] <Solar_Dragon> Basically, all our song articles need the song infobox and an image preferably [20:35:37] <Doh5678> What about song that can't have an image? [20:35:54] <AleWi> Don't add it [20:35:58] <Solar_Dragon> Then we leave that blank obviously [20:36:01] <Solar_Dragon> No image [20:36:02] <Phinbart> Back! [20:36:04] <Smiley12> An image of the people singing or what [20:36:14] <Solar_Dragon> An image of part of the song on screen [20:36:15] <Phinbart> The song infoboxes was a good idea! [20:36:19] <AleWi> Yes, when they singing the song? [20:36:33] <Smiley12> cause on Wikipedia they have ar teh bottom of the song infobox a .ogg file that gives a preview of the song [20:36:41] <Solar_Dragon> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Bloggin%27_a_Food_Blog for instance [20:36:52] <Doh5678> .ogg files are annoying [20:36:58] <Solar_Dragon> Smiley12, I thought about getting a video of the song in the infobox actually [20:37:07] <Solar_Dragon> But it'd be too much work [20:37:18] <Doh5678> .ogg could be workable [20:37:23] <Phinbart> What about copyright thingys [20:37:34] <Smiley12> Not really, get a screen recorder, and just enjoy the song while oure watching and recording [20:38:00] <Solar_Dragon> No, I mean too much work with fitting it into an infobox :P [20:38:12] <AleWi> The lyrics for old songs can you find on the Simpsons World Book [20:38:19] <Solar_Dragon> Yes [20:38:30] <Solar_Dragon> and many websites have song lyrics too [20:38:30] <Smiley12> Youtube embedding? [20:39:05] <Solar_Dragon> Smiley12, making a section of the infobox with only one thing on it, so no Gender: etc thing before, is near enough impossible for some reason :S [20:39:13] <Doh5678> Don't we already have videos on some articles [20:39:21] <Solar_Dragon> Which is what we would want for the song articles [20:39:32] <Solar_Dragon> We could do something like Bulbapedia does though I guess [20:39:34] <AleWi> Youtube videos can be deleted [20:39:55] <AleWi> It should go to Itunes or similar [20:40:13] <Doh5678> Same problem [20:40:21] <Solar_Dragon> http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_glitches_in_Generation_I#Prevented_progress <- There [20:40:23] <Phinbart> How can you embedd itunes vids? [20:40:38] <Solar_Dragon> Doesn't matter about a video being deleted. We can either remove it or find another one [20:40:52] <Smiley12> just remember to mirror the iedo so it doesnt get removed [20:40:59] <Smiley12> *video [20:41:07] <AleWi> It may take time before we discover at a video is removed [20:41:31] <Solar_Dragon> Smiley12, don't use our own videos. Use others. :P [20:41:37] <Doh5678> Smiley12's solution will stop it being deleted [20:41:45] <Solar_Dragon> One more copyright infringement and our YT account is closed [20:41:53] <Smiley12> :O [20:42:14] <Smiley12> then just make a new one [20:42:49] <AleWi> Hulu, Coca-Cola and Fox has some Simpson videos [20:43:03] <Solar_Dragon> That's because they have rights to it [20:43:51] <Smiley12> We should be allowed to use their vids since our YT account is not a partnership account [20:43:52] <Phinbart> Maybe you could put Copyright 20th Century Fox or someat. [20:43:59] <Solar_Dragon> Still won't work [20:44:09] <Cook879> that does nothing [20:44:13] <Solar_Dragon> Smiley12, it doesn't matter [20:44:29] <Smiley12> That's what I hate about copyright [20:44:36] <Smiley12> And SOPA [20:44:41] <Cook879> I uploaded a Family Guy one as FOX didn't bother - got it from FoxFlash with our offical account [20:44:42] <Smiley12> that will ruin the internet [20:45:05] <Cook879> They blocked, I disputed, got it online for like a week, then it got deleted [20:45:22] <AleWi> I'm recording all episode or have it on DVD [20:46:06] <Smiley12> Solar_Dragon, are we affiliated with wtso.net? [20:46:15] <Solar_Dragon> Well, I reckon that Fox are missing out on something here. They could upload all their music videos to their YT I think [20:46:23] <Solar_Dragon> And Smiley12, I tried to contact them before. No reply [20:46:36] <Smiley12> what about iwatchsimpsonsonline.net [20:46:48] <Doh5678> Smiley12: Don't forget about Protect IP [20:46:58] <AleWi> Simpsons 20th are still on Youtube after two years in january [20:47:01] <Smiley12> wait, nevermind, iwatchsimpsonsonline.net has been taken down by fox [20:47:12] -->| supergeeky1 (~sg1@c-71-200-165-110.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #wikisimpsons [20:47:27] <Phinbart> I wondered what happened to that site, Smiley. [20:47:27] <Doh5678> Maybe later Solar [20:47:31] <Phinbart> Hi, supergeeky! [20:47:33] <AleWi> next topic? [20:48:01] <Phinbart> 20th Century Fox and FOX. [20:48:41] -->| TuxBot (~TuxBot@tropicalwikis/bot/tuxbot) has joined #wikisimpsons [20:48:51] <Phinbart> Hi, TuxBot. [20:49:00] <Tux> Because I'm a bitch I brought my bot here [20:49:10] <Solar_Dragon> I hate bots >_> [20:49:16] <Tux> also i need to catch up on things sometimes [20:49:25] <Phinbart> 11 users (including Chanserv) are here! [20:49:44] <Solar_Dragon> Okay then, 20th Century Fox and FOX [20:49:51] <Solar_Dragon> These articles are a jumbled mess [20:50:08] <Phinbart> Solar. [20:48] Phinbart 20th Century Fox and FOX. -_- [20:50:27] <Solar_Dragon> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/20th_Century_Fox <- Many of those references shouldn't really count and should be on the FOX article [20:50:29] <Doh5678> Aren't tehy the same? [20:50:39] <Solar_Dragon> That should be for the production of The Simpsons [20:50:43] <Tux> FOX is run by Jews anyway. You know when there's Jews there's jewgold. [20:50:44] <Solar_Dragon> The real-world one [20:51:02] <Solar_Dragon> FOX is for the TV channel in The Simpsons http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/FOX [20:51:16] <Doh5678> Oh [20:51:22] <Solar_Dragon> Although the first image shouldn't be there as it's not for the channel itself >_> [20:51:40] <Solar_Dragon> See the problems? [20:51:53] <Solar_Dragon> Basically, we need someone to go through the pages and totally redo them [20:52:05] <Solar_Dragon> I nominated Phinbart for the task. :P [20:52:11] =-= Mode #wikisimpsons +v AleWi by Solar_Dragon [20:53:10] <Doh5678> I second that nomination [20:53:28] <Solar_Dragon> Seriously, anyone up for the job though? [20:53:49] <Doh5678> I may POSSIBLY do it [20:54:38] <Solar_Dragon> Because, I think that 20th Century Fox should be about the company itself, get rid of the references. Keep the logo images. [20:54:45] <Solar_Dragon> And FOX should be purely about the channel [20:54:49] <Smiley12> I just made a minor edit to 20 century fox article so i may have edit conflicted Phinbart if he's editing it [20:55:19] <Phinbart> I haven't been on Wikisimpsons since I put on the next topic [20:57:06] <AleWi> next? [20:57:18] <Phinbart> Cultural references pages. How many references to deserve a page? [20:57:37] <AleWi> 50 [20:57:43] <Solar_Dragon> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Twilight_Saga <- Prime example [20:58:05] <Solar_Dragon> Only 2 references to Twilight. Granted, there will probably be more in the future. But for now, does 2 references deserve an article/ [20:58:06] <Doh5678> 10 [20:58:06] <Solar_Dragon> ? [20:58:12] <Cook879> 5? [20:58:12] <Doh5678> No [20:58:23] <Solar_Dragon> 10 I think may be too much. 5 I think seems good enough [20:58:31] <Doh5678> Yeah 5 is good [20:58:55] <AleWi> If i do a dif with the new table it's that something wrong [20:59:00] <AleWi> but it isn't [20:59:17] <AleWi> http://simpsonswiki.net/w/index.php?title=Sesame_Street&curid=25259&diff=262528&oldid=262527&rcid=74117 [20:59:33] <Cook879> I edited afterwards [20:59:40] <Cook879> Fixing it [21:00:13] <AleWi> see it now [21:00:51] <Solar_Dragon> So, please have your say on the Twilight Saga on the deletion page [21:01:31] <Doh5678> Link please [21:01:43] <Solar_Dragon> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Wikisimpsons:Pages_for_deletion#Twilight_Saga [21:02:07] <Solar_Dragon> "It's a Wonderful Life" just makes it in with 6 references (two of which are I&S comic name references) [21:03:09] <AleWi> edit conflict!!! [21:03:30] <AleWi> stupid doh
