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Wikisimpsons:Editor meetings/December 20th

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[20:10:33]	<Solar_Dragon>	And meeting is to start now!
[20:10:50]	<Phinbart>	New template code.
[20:10:54]	<AleWi>	no Next editor meeting
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[20:11:25]	<Solar_Dragon>	Okay then, everyone has seen my new code. We just need to implement it on all tables
[20:11:33]	<Smiley12>	I havent seen it
[20:11:37]	<Phinbart>	That is going to be hard.
[20:11:37]	<AleWi>	I have
[20:11:55]	<AleWi>	It's little hard to use if you are new on it
[20:11:56]	<Cook879>	If someone makes a list I may start...
[20:11:56]	<Doh5678>	The code is good, a simpler way to make tables without all the code
[20:12:16]	<Solar_Dragon>	Smiley12: http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Pokemon
[20:12:21]	<Solar_Dragon>	Press edit on that to see what I did
[20:12:53]	<Smiley12>	I see what you did
[20:13:09]	<Solar_Dragon>	Basically, it cuts down on a lot of code, makes it simpler to set up tables and looks good :P
[20:13:23]	<AleWi>	I think the code before was easier
[20:13:34]	<Phinbart>	Me too.
[20:13:35]	<AleWi>	It the same they use on Wikpiedia
[20:13:46]	<Solar_Dragon>	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Template:Table <- That might help AleWi
[20:14:03]	<Phinbart>	I prefer the old one.
[20:14:12]	<Smiley12>	yep, I like the new one better
[20:14:24]	<Smiley12>	only problem is the process of turning all old ones into hte new one
[20:14:37]	<Doh5678>	A mountain of random letters and numbers and symbols, that's better?
[20:14:54]	<AleWi>	When it's colspan and rowspan it's harder
[20:15:00]	<Solar_Dragon>	Yeah, but if we ever decide to change the table style again, it will also mean 1 change rather than hundreds
[20:15:09]	<Phinbart>	Huh? That's an easy part for me.
[20:15:22]	<Phinbart>	The colspan and rowspan thing
[20:15:27]	<AleWi>	If you use the template in the menu is the old system
[20:15:28]	<Solar_Dragon>	Col and Rowspans are fairly simple with the new template too
[20:15:40]	<Smiley12>	Solar_Dragon, will this new table template fit other differnt table designs as well?
[20:15:54]	<Solar_Dragon>	What do you mean other different table designs?
[20:16:00]	<Phinbart>	Are you doing the log, Solar?
[20:16:18]	<Solar_Dragon>	I will update it every 10 minutes or so Phinbart
[20:16:22]	<Solar_Dragon>	It's only been 6
[20:16:34]	<Phinbart>	OK.
[20:16:35]	<AleWi>	In the edit menu is still the old table
[20:16:36]	<Cook879>	Like: http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/List_of_episodes_by_production_code ?
[20:16:54]	<Cook879>	how would the colours work?
[20:16:58]	<Solar_Dragon>	Oh god >_>
[20:17:16]	<Doh5678>	Shit
[20:17:18]	<Solar_Dragon>	Well, I could make a slight change to the table, add one more parameter which allows you to change colours too
[20:17:32]	<Doh5678>	Do that
[20:17:34]	<AleWi>	Should we have it on http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/List_of_episodes too?
[20:17:41]	<Doh5678>	With the code?
[20:17:44]	<Smiley12>	Solar_Dragon, not all tables are those grid shapes, some are more complex (Ive seen them on the wiki, cant remember any)
[20:18:12]	<Cook879>	that one uses eptable AleWi
[20:18:12]	<AleWi>	We have eptable there now
[20:18:13]	<Solar_Dragon>	All tables are basically grids Smiley12...
[20:19:08]	<Cook879>	Could eptable be used on production, or a different version?
[20:19:27]	<Smiley12>	meh
[20:20:56]	<Solar_Dragon>	Basically, we need to try and get this out on all table articles though
[20:21:18]	<Solar_Dragon>	For those of you not that confident with the code, I would suggest copying to a user subpage and editing there
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[20:21:32]	<AleWi>	Hi UnknownFork
[20:21:33]	<Phinbart>	Hi, UnknownFork!
[20:21:34]	<Solar_Dragon>	So if you make a mistake, it wouldn't be seen by many people
[20:21:36]	<AleWi>	YOUR LATE!!!
[20:21:37]	<UnknownFork>	Hi
[20:22:00]	<Cook879>	As I said, make a list and i'll do some now
[20:22:07]	<AleWi>	I'm usually copy an article when I creating a new
[20:22:26]	<Solar_Dragon>	Cook879, there's a list on the Cultural references template basically :P
[20:23:28]	<Cook879>	I notice that AleWi - I do the same
[20:23:49]	<AleWi>	I take a smilar article
[20:24:02]	<Solar_Dragon>	I had to do that with the normal table code. However, with the new templates, I don't have to :P
[20:24:15]	<AleWi>	*smilar ,
[20:24:33]	<Solar_Dragon>	Although http://simpsonswiki.net/w/index.php?title=First_Church_of_Springfield_marquee&action=edit <- That did get confusing
[20:25:12]	<AleWi>	The season list is not good
[20:25:32]	<Solar_Dragon>	What do you mean?
[20:25:35]	<Phinbart>	Shall we move onto the next subject?
[20:25:42]	<Doh5678>	Not yet
[20:25:58]	<AleWi>	They should be a line on the right side too
[20:26:10]	<Solar_Dragon>	You mean like the timeline template?
[20:26:24]	<AleWi>	at the the first column
[20:26:47]	<Solar_Dragon>	Oh right, I see
[20:26:48]	<UnknownFork>	at the the first column
[20:27:40]	<Solar_Dragon>	Yeah, but there's one problem with having the seasons column first, the rowspans make the code get incredibly confusing
[20:27:58]	<Solar_Dragon>	See the Marquee article for instance
[20:28:00]	<AleWi>	It was so before
[20:28:07]	<UnknownFork>	It was so before
[20:28:14]	<Solar_Dragon>	No, this had me stumped for a bit before I created a workaround
[20:28:18]	<AleWi>	UknownFork is a dork
[20:28:21]	=-=	UnknownFork was booted from #wikisimpsons by YOU (stop repeating)
[20:28:53]	<Solar_Dragon>	I had to introduce Template:TableBodyBottom as well which can make things even more confusing
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[20:29:04]	<UnknownFork>	kk'
[20:30:16]	<Solar_Dragon>	So, yeah, the tables mainly need to be changed on the cultural references template pages
[20:30:29]	<Solar_Dragon>	The TV shows and movies that have been references to in the show
[20:31:29]	<Solar_Dragon>	Okay now, I think it's time to move on now if everyone's satisfied with what we have to do
[20:31:35]	<Phinbart>	Song infoboxes
[20:31:47]	<Phinbart>	brb
[20:31:48]	<AleWi>	I have ad it on two pages
[20:31:51]	<AleWi>	*add
[20:32:19]	<Doh5678>	Is this for fictional or real songs?
[20:32:29]	<AleWi>	Song in Simpsons
[20:32:32]	<Solar_Dragon>	The song infobox is for all song pages
[20:32:43]	<Solar_Dragon>	And my keyboard froze up then :S
[20:32:45]	<AleWi>	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Template:Song
[20:32:50]	<Doh5678>	OK
[20:33:01]	<Solar_Dragon>	Every button hit made it make a noise XD
[20:33:08]	<AleWi>	Right now it's, name, image, singers, characters, length, writer, album and appearance
[20:33:37]	<Solar_Dragon>	Singers is the voice actors/people who performed the song
[20:33:39]	<AleWi>	You probably have sticky keys on
[20:33:50]	<Solar_Dragon>	No, I had to turn it on to make it work again XD
[20:33:58]	<Solar_Dragon>	That was weird
[20:34:12]	<Solar_Dragon>	Well, I got sticky keys up then pressed no
[20:34:34]	<Solar_Dragon>	Basically, all our song articles need the song infobox and an image preferably
[20:35:37]	<Doh5678>	What about song that can't have an image?
[20:35:54]	<AleWi>	Don't add it
[20:35:58]	<Solar_Dragon>	Then we leave that blank obviously
[20:36:01]	<Solar_Dragon>	No image
[20:36:02]	<Phinbart>	Back!
[20:36:04]	<Smiley12>	An image of the people singing or what
[20:36:14]	<Solar_Dragon>	An image of part of the song on screen
[20:36:15]	<Phinbart>	The song infoboxes was a good idea!
[20:36:19]	<AleWi>	Yes, when they singing the song?
[20:36:33]	<Smiley12>	cause on Wikipedia they have ar teh bottom of the song infobox a .ogg file that gives a preview of the song
[20:36:41]	<Solar_Dragon>	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Bloggin%27_a_Food_Blog for instance
[20:36:52]	<Doh5678>	.ogg files are annoying
[20:36:58]	<Solar_Dragon>	Smiley12, I thought about getting a video of the song in the infobox actually
[20:37:07]	<Solar_Dragon>	But it'd be too much work
[20:37:18]	<Doh5678>	.ogg could be workable
[20:37:23]	<Phinbart>	What about copyright thingys