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| + | *We should stick with Wikipedia naming conventions, most common name over real name, hence why I said that [[Rafael]] should be moved to Wiseguy. Willie is Willie's most common name and Groundskeeper is a title, which is why we don't use that in the article name. MacDougal is his last name though and it can go with his first name with no problems in the article title. <span style="font-family:Chiller"><big><big>[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">The</span> <span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:red">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</sup></big></big></span> 18:00, 19 February 2012 (EST) | ||
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A major discussion occurred during the most recent editor meeting about changing the naming policy. This discussion was decided to be discussed off IRC. You can find the key points below. Find a full transcript here.--Cook879 18:22, 18 February 2012 (EST)
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Key points
[21:24] <RandomNO> I think we should change our policy, though. [21:24] <RandomNO> I think all pages should have the real first-last name. [21:24] <@Cook879> I think most common names trump real names [21:27] <RandomNO> To: The real first and last name (if known) should be the page name, with any middle names on the page and they're most common name (if one) stated clearly on the page. [21:28] <@Solar_Dragon> Most commonly known by name [21:28] <@Solar_Dragon> Over everything [21:30] <RandomNO> "The real first and last name (if known) should be the page name, with any middle names on the page and they're most common name (if one) stated clearly on the page." My idea of policy. [21:31] <Underfaker> If the more common name is a generic name (even if the character has a full real name) the article should be named by that (Comic Book Guy and Cat Lady, not Jeff Albertson and Eleanor Abernathy) [21:32] <@Cook879> I agree with Underfaker [21:32] <Underfaker> If the common name is a shortened real name, then by that (Bart Simpson, Ned Flanders, not Bartholemew Jojo Simpson and Nedward Flanders)
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Characters
Willie
[21:23] <RandomNO> Right, Willie MacDougal. Goes against policy. [21:23] <@Solar_Dragon> No it doesn't [21:23] <@Solar_Dragon> It goes with policy [21:23] <RandomNO> Most common names. [21:24] <RandomNO> Groundskeeper Willie, it should be. [21:24] <@Solar_Dragon> He is known as Willie most [21:25] <RandomNO> Groundskeeper Willie is "never" called Willie MacDougal. [21:26] <@Solar_Dragon> And Willie is mainly called by his first name [21:26] <@Solar_Dragon> Groundskeeper is a title [21:26] <@Solar_Dragon> Not his first name [21:28] <AleWi> Bart Simpson is called just that not Bartholomew JoJo Simpson
Wiseguy
[21:24] <Underfaker> Most common names, but we refer to Wiseguy as Raphael -_- [21:24] <Underfaker> Then again, neither are that common [21:24] <@Solar_Dragon> He is never called wiseguy [21:26] <Underfaker> If we ant to get technical: He's only called Raphael in that one episode, and although his name in the script is always just whatever he is (Cab Driver, Delivery Man, etc.), in the Simpsons episode guide, they always refer to him as Wiseguy (and the writers do as well in the commentaries), so so do I [21:27] <@Solar_Dragon> If that's the case Underfaker, then we should move his article
Eleanor Abernathy
[21:24] <AleWi> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Eleanor_Abernathy [21:25] <@Solar_Dragon> And she is never called crazy cat lady [21:28] <@Solar_Dragon> Crazy cat lady is called Eleanor Abernathy several times [21:29] <@Solar_Dragon> Including by the episode guide [21:32] <@Solar_Dragon> But Eleanor Abernathy is never called crazy cat lady any more [21:32] <@Solar_Dragon> Her proper name has been mentioned elsewhere and in the episode guide
Yes Guy
[21:25] <AleWi> Yes Guy is called in the series for That Jerk That Goes Ye-e-e-es and in books for Frank Nelson-Type.
Comic Book Guy
[21:25] <@Solar_Dragon> While Comic Book Guy is always called that [21:26] <AleWi> Comic Book Guy have a real name [21:26] <@Solar_Dragon> CBG is always known as that [21:26] <Phinbart> Comic Book Guy should be kept and not moved to Jeff Albertson
Discussion
- We should stick with Wikipedia naming conventions, most common name over real name, hence why I said that Rafael should be moved to Wiseguy. Willie is Willie's most common name and Groundskeeper is a title, which is why we don't use that in the article name. MacDougal is his last name though and it can go with his first name with no problems in the article title. The Solar Dragon (Talk - Contribs.) 18:00, 19 February 2012 (EST)
