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[20:10] <Phinbart> Right, let's start the meeting shall we!
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(20:09:58) AleWi Should we start the meeting?
[20:10] <AleWi> Should we start the meeting?
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(20:10:09) Phinbart HA! Beat you to it!
[20:10] <Phinbart> HA! Beat you to it!
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(20:10:24) Phinbart I waited till the computer clock went "08:10", then pressed enter.
[20:10] <Phinbart> I waited till the computer clock went "08:10", then pressed enter.
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(20:10:28) AleWi Censority
[20:10] <AleWi> Censority
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(20:10:38) Phinbart Randomno wanted to discuss this.
[20:10] <Phinbart> Randomno wanted to discuss this.
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(20:10:47) Phinbart Rndomno Rndomno|Away
[20:10] <Phinbart> Rndomno Rndomno|Away
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(20:10:56) Rndomno Yes?
[20:11] <Rndomno> Yes?
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(20:10:57) AleWi Randomno is not here
[20:11] <AleWi> Randomno is not here
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(20:11:00) AleWi Rndomno is here
[20:11] <AleWi> Rndomno is here
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(20:11:00) Rndomno DAMMIT!
[20:11] <Rndomno> DAMMIT!
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(20:11:03) AleWi it's not same person
[20:11] <AleWi> it's not same person
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(20:11:08) Freddie_ It is time!
[20:11] <Freddie_> It is time!
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(20:11:13) Phinbart You always get things late, AleWi
[20:11] <Phinbart> You always get things late, AleWi
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(20:11:27) Phinbart Right, Randomno, what was it you wanted to discuss about Censority?
[20:11] <Phinbart> Right, Randomno, what was it you wanted to discuss about Censority?
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(20:11:41) Rndomno Part 2. [dramatic music]
[20:11] <Rndomno> Part 2. [dramatic music]
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(20:11:55) Rndomno Well, we're not Wikipedia.
[20:12] <Rndomno> Well, we're not Wikipedia.
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(20:12:11) Solar_Dragon We're not censoring anything
[20:12] <@Solar_Dragon> We're not censoring anything
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(20:12:14) Solar_Dragon NEXT TOPIC!
[20:12] <@Solar_Dragon> NEXT TOPIC!
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(20:12:17) Rndomno Shuddup.
[20:12] <Rndomno> Shuddup.
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(20:12:22) AleWi Some things about The Simpsons shorts
[20:12] <AleWi> Some things about The Simpsons shorts
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(20:12:23) Rndomno STAY ON TOPIC!
[20:12] <Rndomno> STAY ON TOPIC!
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(20:12:35) Phinbart "(→List of things to be discussed: I know we've already discussed this, but I have some more points to bring up)" - in history
[20:12] <Phinbart> "(→List of things to be discussed: I know we've already discussed this, but I have some more points to bring up)" - in history
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(20:12:44) Rndomno Yeah.
[20:12] <Rndomno> Yeah.
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(20:12:58) Rndomno Okay, next, The Simpsons doesn't use any strong language.
[20:13] <Rndomno> Okay, next, The Simpsons doesn't use any strong language.
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(20:13:11) Solar_Dragon Yes, it has done
[20:13] <@Solar_Dragon> Yes, it has done
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(20:13:17) Solar_Dragon See Will k's list of swear words
[20:13] <@Solar_Dragon> See Will k's list of swear words
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(20:13:21) Rndomno If we were a South Park wiki, users would expect to see some stuff.
[20:13] <Rndomno> If we were a South Park wiki, users would expect to see some stuff.
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(20:13:39) AleWi Some episodes have raiting 14 in US
[20:13] <AleWi> Some episodes have raiting 14 in US
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(20:13:41) Solar_Dragon We're not censoring anything
[20:13] <@Solar_Dragon> We're not censoring anything
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(20:13:44) Solar_Dragon NEXT TOPIC!
[20:13] <@Solar_Dragon> NEXT TOPIC!
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(20:13:45) Rndomno Solar_Dragon: Not really strong, like f*** and s***.
[20:13] <Rndomno> Solar_Dragon: Not really strong, like f*** and s***.
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(20:13:52) Rndomno STAY ON TOPIC!
[20:13] <Rndomno> STAY ON TOPIC!
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(20:13:52) |<-- Shwido has left freenode (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
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(20:13:59) Solar_Dragon Don't ping me, it lags my episode
[20:14] <@Solar_Dragon> Don't ping me, it lags my episode
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(20:14:06) Rndomno Mehkay.
[20:14] <Rndomno> Mehkay.
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(20:14:12) Phinbart Right, so next topic?
[20:14] <Phinbart> Right, so next topic?
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(20:14:15) Rndomno NO!
[20:14] <Rndomno> NO!
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(20:14:17) AleWi Solar go away then
[20:14] <AleWi> Solar go away then
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(20:14:24) Solar_Dragon No
[20:14] <@Solar_Dragon> No
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(20:14:28) AleWi Some things about The Simpsons shorts
[20:14] <AleWi> Some things about The Simpsons shorts  
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(20:14:36) Cook879 what things?
[20:14] <@Cook879> what things?
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(20:14:39) Rndomno AleWi: Hold on!
[20:14] <Rndomno> AleWi: Hold on!
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(20:14:41) AleWi I don't know
[20:14] <AleWi> I don't know
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(20:14:45) Rndomno Back a topic!
[20:14] <Rndomno> Back a topic!
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(20:14:51) AleWi No Rndomno
[20:14] <AleWi> No Rndomno
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(20:14:53) Rndomno yes.
[20:14] <Rndomno> yes.
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(20:14:56) Rndomno *Yes
[20:15] <Phinbart> How about we let Randomno speak
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(20:14:56) Phinbart How about we let Randomno speak
[20:15] <Rndomno> *Yes
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(20:15:04) AleWi Write what you want
[20:15] <AleWi> Write what you want
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(20:15:17) AleWi *sigh*
[20:15] <AleWi> *sigh*
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(20:15:31) Rndomno Right: If we were another wiki like a South Park or Family Guy one, users would expect to see strong language.
[20:15] <Rndomno> Right: If we were another wiki like a South Park or Family Guy one, users would expect to see strong language.
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(20:15:55) AleWi Simpsons it's not a show for kids according producers, but they now kids watching.
[20:16] <AleWi> Simpsons it's not a show for kids according producers, but they now kids watching.
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(20:15:56) Rndomno We should be umm... precautioness.
[20:16] <Rndomno> We should be umm... precautioness.
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(20:16:05) Solar_Dragon Sigh. Is that the only point you're bringing up?
[20:16] <@Solar_Dragon> Sigh. Is that the only point you're bringing up?
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(20:16:09) Cook879 How "strong" is "wank"? They used that twice, uncensored last week
[20:16] <@Cook879> How "strong" is "wank"? They used that twice, uncensored last week
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(20:16:24) Solar_Dragon The Simpsons has used lots of swear words.
[20:16] <@Solar_Dragon> The Simpsons has used lots of swear words.
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(20:16:30) Rndomno Yeah, where was the second time by the way? I know Lenny's one.
[20:16] <Rndomno> Yeah, where was the second time by the way? I know Lenny's one.
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(20:16:32) AleWi wank is not in US a bad word, but in in UK.
[20:16] <AleWi> wank is not in US a bad word, but in in UK.
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(20:16:42) Rndomno Sólar: Not that strong.
[20:16] <Rndomno> Sólar: Not that strong.
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(20:16:52) Phinbart It was once said on Breakfast when some American guys were on
[20:16] <Phinbart> It was once said on Breakfast when some American guys were on
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(20:16:53) Solar_Dragon They haven't used "cunt" yet, which is the worst swear word of them all, which is why we would censor that if we had it
[20:16] <@Solar_Dragon> They haven't used "cunt" yet, which is the worst swear word of them all, which is why we would censor that if we had it
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(20:17:21) AleWi Everybody can some swear words when you are 5, 6 years old.
[20:17] <AleWi> Everybody can some swear words when you are 5, 6 years old.
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(20:17:39) Phinbart OK, have we finished discussing censority?
[20:17] <Phinbart> OK, have we finished discussing censority?
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(20:17:45) Solar_Dragon We're not censoring anything
[20:17] <@Solar_Dragon> We're not censoring anything
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(20:17:47) Rndomno Everybody knows some?
[20:17] <@Solar_Dragon> NEXT TOPIC!
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(20:17:47) Solar_Dragon NEXT TOPIC!
[20:17] <Rndomno> Everybody knows some?
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(20:17:51) Rndomno No, Solar.
[20:17] <Rndomno> No, Solar.
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(20:18:01) AleWi Yes, Solar.
[20:18] <AleWi> Yes, Solar.
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(20:18:03) AleWi Some things about The Simpsons shorts
[20:18] <AleWi> Some things about The Simpsons shorts
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(20:18:05) Solar_Dragon WE ARE NOT CENSORING ANYTHING!
[20:18] <@Solar_Dragon> WE ARE NOT CENSORING ANYTHING!
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(20:18:09) Rndomno I don't care if you don't want pinging. We need to finish this off.
[20:18] <Rndomno> I don't care if you don't want pinging. We need to finish this off.
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(20:18:14) Rndomno Vote:
[20:18] <@Solar_Dragon> Randomno, you are the ONLY one who disagrees
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(20:18:15) Solar_Dragon Randomno, you are the ONLY one who disagrees
[20:18] <Rndomno> Vote:
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(20:18:21) Solar_Dragon Therefore, NEXT TOPIC!
[20:18] <@Solar_Dragon> Therefore, NEXT TOPIC!
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(20:18:24) Rndomno NO!
[20:18] <Rndomno> NO!
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(20:18:26) Cook879 No
[20:18] <@Cook879> No
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(20:18:28) Rndomno Vote first.
[20:18] <Rndomno> Vote first.
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(20:18:36) AleWi Vote: No
[20:18] <AleWi> Vote: No
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(20:18:41) Phinbart Errrrr...
[20:18] <Phinbart> Errrrr...
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(20:18:41) Rndomno Just quickly say "yes" or "no".
[20:18] <Rndomno> Just quickly say "yes" or "no".
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(20:18:50) FatHomer Hi!
[20:18] <FatHomer> Hi!
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(20:18:50) Freddie_ Yes.
[20:18] <Phinbart> Hi, FatHomer
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(20:18:51) Phinbart Hi, FatHomer
[20:18] <Freddie_> Yes.
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(20:18:52) AleWi Hej FatHomer.
[20:18] <@Solar_Dragon> NO, No Censoring.
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(20:18:52) Rndomno Hi, FatHomer.
[20:18] <AleWi> Hej FatHomer.
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(20:18:52) Solar_Dragon NO, No Censoring.
[20:18] <Rndomno> Hi, FatHomer.
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(20:19:00) Cook879 hey FatHomer
[20:19] <@Cook879> hey FatHomer
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(20:19:00) Solar_Dragon That's my vote
[20:19] <@Solar_Dragon> That's my vote
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(20:19:01) Rndomno Voting, then?
[20:19] <Rndomno> Voting, then?
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(20:19:03) Phinbart We're in the middle of a heated argument about censority
[20:19] <Phinbart> We're in the middle of a heated argument about censority
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(20:19:06) Cook879 I have!
[20:19] <@Cook879> I have!
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(20:19:09) FatHomer What'sok
[20:19] <FatHomer> What'sok
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(20:19:19) FatHomer sorry
[20:19] <FatHomer> sorry
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(20:19:31) FatHomer censor what?
[20:19] <FatHomer> censor what?
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(20:19:37) Cook879 rude words
[20:19] <@Cook879> rude words
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(20:19:40) Rndomno Swear words.
[20:19] <Rndomno> Swear words.
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(20:19:56) FatHomer we should not do that
[20:20] <FatHomer> we should not do that
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(20:20:03) Rndomno Okay, LISTEN. I don;t mind words that were on the show.
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(20:20:06) Rndomno Only other ones.
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(20:20:30) Rndomno Like Sneed's Feed and Seed Behind the Laughter, or Homer's Trivia section.
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(20:20:38) Solar_Dragon We do not need to censor swear words
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(20:20:39) FatHomer but I think users shouldn't swear
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(20:20:45) Solar_Dragon We won't censor swear words
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(20:20:59) Phinbart Right, change topic then?
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(20:21:09) Freddie_ Oh, come on!
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(20:21:25) Rndomno Can we just count up votes?
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(20:21:37) Rndomno So, 3 no, 1 yes, so far.
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(20:21:40) Cook879 Well count then!
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(20:21:42) Solar_Dragon "Fuck". Everyone knows it. A lot of people use it.
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(20:21:46) Phinbart Remember everyone I'M doing the transcript of the meeting
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(20:21:50) AleWi The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where feed and seed both have the same suffix -eed. The shop was "Formerly Chuck's", meaning for the two words beginning with "F" and "S" to have the same suffix with Chuck's (-uck), the shop would have been called "Chuck's Fuck and Suck".
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(20:21:50) Rndomno I don't.
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(20:21:53) Rndomno I will.
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(20:21:59) Rndomno For transcript.
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(20:22:11) Rndomno Not I will use swear words.
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(20:22:18) Cook879 I swear more than 4 of us have voted
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(20:22:25) Rndomno
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(20:22:41) AleWi In one episode he was the only character in the show to say bulls**t but the "s**t" part was censored by a honk sound.
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(20:22:45) Cook879 I was being serious - I didn't intend for that statement to be comic
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(20:22:52) Rndomno Oh.
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(20:23:00) Phinbart We've already created a template for pages which have content that is not suitable for young children
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(20:23:11) Rndomno I know!
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(20:23:13) FatHomer Hi!
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(20:23:18) Rndomno Let's create an parameter!
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(20:23:18) AleWi supergeeky1 it's 23 minutes past 3PM!
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(20:23:21) Rndomno I'll do it.
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(20:23:21) AleWi Hi supergeeky1!
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(20:23:22) Phinbart Hi, supergeeky
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(20:23:28) Solar_Dragon supergeeky1, Randomno is trying to make us censor swear words. What do you have to say about that?
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(20:23:35) Rndomno So, no censority but warning, then.
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(20:23:43) FatHomer yepp
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(20:23:59) supergeeky1 I have had it with these motherfucking pings in this motherfucking channel.
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(20:24:01) supergeeky1 ^
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(20:24:04) Solar_Dragon
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(20:24:12) Solar_Dragon Snakes on a Plane
 
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(20:09:58)	AleWi	Should we start the meeting?
(20:10:09)	Phinbart	HA! Beat you to it!
(20:10:24)	Phinbart	I waited till the computer clock went "08:10", then pressed enter.
(20:10:28)	AleWi	Censority
(20:10:38)	Phinbart	Randomno wanted to discuss this.
(20:10:47)	Phinbart	Rndomno Rndomno|Away
(20:10:56)	Rndomno	Yes?
(20:10:57)	AleWi	Randomno is not here
(20:11:00)	AleWi	Rndomno is here
(20:11:00)	Rndomno	DAMMIT!
(20:11:03)	AleWi	it's not same person
(20:11:08)	Freddie_	It is time!
(20:11:13)	Phinbart	You always get things late, AleWi
(20:11:27)	Phinbart	Right, Randomno, what was it you wanted to discuss about Censority?
(20:11:41)	Rndomno	Part 2. [dramatic music]
(20:11:55)	Rndomno	Well, we're not Wikipedia.
(20:12:11)	Solar_Dragon	We're not censoring anything
(20:12:14)	Solar_Dragon	NEXT TOPIC!
(20:12:17)	Rndomno	Shuddup.
(20:12:22)	AleWi	Some things about The Simpsons shorts
(20:12:23)	Rndomno	STAY ON TOPIC!
(20:12:35)	Phinbart	"(→List of things to be discussed: I know we've already discussed this, but I have some more points to bring up)" - in history
(20:12:44)	Rndomno	Yeah.
(20:12:58)	Rndomno	Okay, next, The Simpsons doesn't use any strong language.
(20:13:11)	Solar_Dragon	Yes, it has done
(20:13:17)	Solar_Dragon	See Will k's list of swear words
(20:13:21)	Rndomno	If we were a South Park wiki, users would expect to see some stuff.
(20:13:39)	AleWi	Some episodes have raiting 14 in US
(20:13:41)	Solar_Dragon	We're not censoring anything
(20:13:44)	Solar_Dragon	NEXT TOPIC!
(20:13:45)	Rndomno	Solar_Dragon: Not really strong, like f*** and s***.
(20:13:52)	Rndomno	STAY ON TOPIC!
(20:13:52)	|<--	Shwido has left freenode (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
(20:13:59)	Solar_Dragon	Don't ping me, it lags my episode
(20:14:06)	Rndomno	Mehkay.
(20:14:12)	Phinbart	Right, so next topic?
(20:14:15)	Rndomno	NO!
(20:14:17)	AleWi	Solar go away then
(20:14:24)	Solar_Dragon	No
(20:14:28)	AleWi	Some things about The Simpsons shorts
(20:14:36)	Cook879	what things?
(20:14:39)	Rndomno	AleWi: Hold on!
(20:14:41)	AleWi	I don't know
(20:14:45)	Rndomno	Back a topic!
(20:14:51)	AleWi	No Rndomno
(20:14:53)	Rndomno	yes.
(20:14:56)	Rndomno	*Yes
(20:14:56)	Phinbart	How about we let Randomno speak
(20:15:04)	AleWi	Write what you want
(20:15:17)	AleWi	*sigh*
(20:15:31)	Rndomno	Right: If we were another wiki like a South Park or Family Guy one, users would expect to see strong language.
(20:15:55)	AleWi	Simpsons it's not a show for kids according producers, but they now kids watching.
(20:15:56)	Rndomno	We should be umm... precautioness.
(20:16:05)	Solar_Dragon	Sigh. Is that the only point you're bringing up?
(20:16:09)	Cook879	How "strong" is "wank"? They used that twice, uncensored last week
(20:16:24)	Solar_Dragon	The Simpsons has used lots of swear words.
(20:16:30)	Rndomno	Yeah, where was the second time by the way? I know Lenny's one.
(20:16:32)	AleWi	wank is not in US a bad word, but in in UK.
(20:16:42)	Rndomno	Sólar: Not that strong.
(20:16:52)	Phinbart	It was once said on Breakfast when some American guys were on
(20:16:53)	Solar_Dragon	They haven't used "cunt" yet, which is the worst swear word of them all, which is why we would censor that if we had it
(20:17:21)	AleWi	Everybody can some swear words when you are 5, 6 years old.
(20:17:39)	Phinbart	OK, have we finished discussing censority?
(20:17:45)	Solar_Dragon	We're not censoring anything
(20:17:47)	Rndomno	Everybody knows some?
(20:17:47)	Solar_Dragon	NEXT TOPIC!
(20:17:51)	Rndomno	No, Solar.
(20:18:01)	AleWi	Yes, Solar.
(20:18:03)	AleWi	Some things about The Simpsons shorts
(20:18:05)	Solar_Dragon	WE ARE NOT CENSORING ANYTHING!
(20:18:09)	Rndomno	I don't care if you don't want pinging. We need to finish this off.
(20:18:14)	Rndomno	Vote:
(20:18:15)	Solar_Dragon	Randomno, you are the ONLY one who disagrees
(20:18:21)	Solar_Dragon	Therefore, NEXT TOPIC!
(20:18:24)	Rndomno	NO!
(20:18:26)	Cook879	No
(20:18:28)	Rndomno	Vote first.
(20:18:36)	AleWi	Vote: No
(20:18:41)	Phinbart	Errrrr...
(20:18:41)	Rndomno	Just quickly say "yes" or "no".
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(20:18:50)	FatHomer	Hi!
(20:18:50)	Freddie_	Yes.
(20:18:51)	Phinbart	Hi, FatHomer
(20:18:52)	AleWi	Hej FatHomer.
(20:18:52)	Rndomno	Hi, FatHomer.
(20:18:52)	Solar_Dragon	NO, No Censoring.
(20:19:00)	Cook879	hey FatHomer
(20:19:00)	Solar_Dragon	That's my vote
(20:19:01)	Rndomno	Voting, then?
(20:19:03)	Phinbart	We're in the middle of a heated argument about censority
(20:19:06)	Cook879	I have!
(20:19:09)	FatHomer	What'sok
(20:19:19)	FatHomer	sorry
(20:19:31)	FatHomer	censor what?
(20:19:37)	Cook879	rude words
(20:19:40)	Rndomno	Swear words.
(20:19:56)	FatHomer	we should not do that
(20:20:03)	Rndomno	Okay, LISTEN. I don;t mind words that were on the show.
(20:20:06)	Rndomno	Only other ones.
(20:20:30)	Rndomno	Like Sneed's Feed and Seed Behind the Laughter, or Homer's Trivia section.
(20:20:38)	Solar_Dragon	We do not need to censor swear words
(20:20:39)	FatHomer	but I think users shouldn't swear
(20:20:45)	Solar_Dragon	We won't censor swear words
(20:20:59)	Phinbart	Right, change topic then?
(20:21:09)	Freddie_	Oh, come on!
(20:21:25)	Rndomno	Can we just count up votes?
(20:21:37)	Rndomno	So, 3 no, 1 yes, so far.
(20:21:40)	Cook879	Well count then!
(20:21:42)	Solar_Dragon	"Fuck". Everyone knows it. A lot of people use it.
(20:21:46)	Phinbart	Remember everyone I'M doing the transcript of the meeting
(20:21:50)	AleWi	The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where feed and seed both have the same suffix -eed. The shop was "Formerly Chuck's", meaning for the two words beginning with "F" and "S" to have the same suffix with Chuck's (-uck), the shop would have been called "Chuck's Fuck and Suck".
(20:21:50)	Rndomno	I don't.
(20:21:53)	Rndomno	I will.
(20:21:59)	Rndomno	For transcript.
(20:22:11)	Rndomno	Not I will use swear words.
(20:22:18)	Cook879	I swear more than 4 of us have voted
(20:22:25)	Rndomno	
(20:22:41)	AleWi	In one episode he was the only character in the show to say bulls**t but the "s**t" part was censored by a honk sound.
(20:22:45)	Cook879	I was being serious - I didn't intend for that statement to be comic
(20:22:52)	Rndomno	Oh.
(20:23:00)	Phinbart	We've already created a template for pages which have content that is not suitable for young children
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(20:23:11)	Rndomno	I know!
(20:23:13)	FatHomer	Hi!
(20:23:18)	Rndomno	Let's create an parameter!
(20:23:18)	AleWi	supergeeky1 it's 23 minutes past 3PM!
(20:23:21)	Rndomno	I'll do it.
(20:23:21)	AleWi	Hi supergeeky1!
(20:23:22)	Phinbart	Hi, supergeeky
(20:23:28)	Solar_Dragon	supergeeky1, Randomno is trying to make us censor swear words. What do you have to say about that?
(20:23:35)	Rndomno	So, no censority but warning, then.
(20:23:43)	FatHomer	yepp
(20:23:59)	supergeeky1	I have had it with these motherfucking pings in this motherfucking channel.
(20:24:01)	supergeeky1	^
(20:24:04)	Solar_Dragon	
(20:24:12)	Solar_Dragon	Snakes on a Plane