Difference between revisions of "Wikisimpsons:Editor meetings/September 10th"

Latest revision as of 15:30, September 10, 2011

[20:12] <Doh5678> Meeting to order anyways
[20:12] <Phinbart> New template design.
[20:12] <Cook879> Mobile users are the problem...
[20:12] <Doh5678> Everyone like ie?
[20:12] <Phinbart> I like it, but it would cause problems with mobile users....
[20:12] <Doh5678> *it
[20:13] <Doh5678> How do we get round this?
[20:13] <Cook879> Also where would they go on the page? Only just thought of that
[20:13] <Doh5678> Top left
[20:13] <Phinbart> Maybe it could be different on mobiles.....there could be a caption of the image instead of hovering.
[20:13] <Phinbart> BRB
[20:14] <Doh5678> But how?
[20:14] <Cook879> we'd have to see them in action i think
[20:14] <Cook879> that would go back to the whole "mobile app" problem from yesterday
[20:14] <Doh5678> trial run maybe
[20:14] <Phinbart> Problem?
[20:14] <Cook879> if so, select pages only
[20:14] <Cook879> you'd probably have to update both seperatly
[20:14] <Cook879> wikipedia has an app right? How do they work?
[20:15] <Phinbart> Doh, good idea to ask Jake to come to the meeting, he hasn't been....
[20:15] <Phinbart> Someone could create an app for Wikisimpsons!]
[20:15] <AleWi> Wapedia is not owned by Wikipedia
[20:15] <Doh5678> They have loads of people/ massive server
[20:15] <Cook879> i think an app is really too much for us to implement
[20:16] <Doh5678> We don't have loads of people/ massive server
[20:16] <Phinbart> Where's cjc, FatHomer and the other users that are usually here?
[20:16] <Cook879> cjc is in his bedroom, Fathomer no idea
[20:16] <Doh5678> That Phinbart is a mystery of life
[20:17] <Phinbart> Maybe a Simpsons app, where you can go to different Simpsons sites from links....
[20:17] <Doh5678> Can't you shout to him to go online
[20:17] <Phinbart> Is your brother going to come to the meeting, Cook?
[20:17] <Cook879> we'd need to find partners for that app, and someone to make it - lots of work
[20:18] <Cook879> he said he's busy at the moment
[20:18] <Doh5678> And also which phone we're going to do it on?
[20:19] <AleWi> I can not do this
[20:19] <Doh5678> I can't either
[20:19] <Cook879> another problem
[20:19] <Cook879> this is never going to work
[20:19] <Cook879> so i say topic two
[20:19] <Doh5678> Discussion about projects
[20:19] <Phinbart> Discussion about projects
[20:20] <Phinbart> You got it before me, Doh!
[20:20] <Cook879> brb
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[20:20] <Doh5678> Hi cjc
[20:20] <AleWi> hi cjc
[20:20] <AleWi> Right now is probably only Project Re-Watch Active
[20:20] <Phinbart> Hi cjc!
[20:20] <Doh5678> When projects should be active/inactive
[20:21] <cjc> hi
[20:21] <cjc> inactive when nothing is happening related to them....
[20:21] <Doh5678> So when should projects should be active/inactive
[20:21] <Phinbart> Dunno really.
[20:21] <AleWi> If no task is currently taking place there
[20:22] <Doh5678> More importantly which ones
[20:22] <Phinbart> Nearly all the projects have no tasks.
[20:22] <Phinbart> Advertising projects more
[20:22] <Doh5678> Characters in season
[20:23] <AleWi> Comics from the collection editions?
[20:23] <Phinbart> Project Episodes should be semi-active in the summer, when there's hardly any news on new eps.
[20:23] <Doh5678> locations, Guest Stars ......
[20:24] <Phinbart> Guest Stars should stay active in the summer.....
[20:24] <Phinbart> Locations semi-active....
[20:24] <Cook879> back
[20:24] <Phinbart> ?
[20:24] <Phinbart> So how should we advertise projects more....?
[20:24] <Doh5678> Active all the time: Merchandise, Images, Crew
[20:24] <Cook879> I think projects are a hard sell
[20:24] <Doh5678> & Games
[20:25] <Doh5678> BRB
[20:25] <Phinbart> Well, is there any news of a new Simpsons video game coming out.....?
[20:25] <Cook879> I do what i feel like doing, instead of going by what projects say
[20:25] <Cook879> not that i've heard
[20:25] <Phinbart> No....so Games should be semi-active....until a new game comes out or is announced.
[20:25] <AleWi> No new game I have read about
[20:25] <Cook879> but we have a big backlog
[20:26] * Nick97 (4495f152@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.149.241.82) has joined #wikisimpsons
[20:26] <AleWi> Hi Nick97
[20:26] <Phinbart> Well, I've spent the afternoon looking through Hit & Run walkthroughs for articles to create.
[20:26] <Phinbart> Hi Nick97!
[20:26] <Nick97> Hi, everybody
[20:26] <Cook879> hey Nick97
[20:27] <Doh5678> Hi <s>Dr</s> Nick97
[20:27] <AleWi> Many older games do not have many information
[20:27] <Phinbart> So, I think Hit & Run articles are off the list....
[20:28] <Doh5678> Wikipedia has some Good Articles on old Simpsons games
[20:28] <Phinbart> New topic?
[20:28] <Phinbart> Project Merchandise & User:Phinbart/List of The Simpsons merchandise
[20:28] <Doh5678> Everyone like it?
[20:28] <Phinbart> So, what does everyone think about Project Merchandise?
[20:28] <AleWi> I like it
[20:29] <Phinbart> About User:Phinbart/List of The Simpsons merchandise, it really needs help....
[20:29] <Phinbart> By the way, if anyone's using ChatZilla, :P, will be a smilie.
[20:29] <Doh5678> It will perpetually be incomplete
[20:30] <Cook879> It's a hard list - it really needs to be split and in main space - then it will become more appealling to edit
[20:30] <AleWi> I like at the covers is showing
[20:31] <Phinbart> That's the only section I've put into a table.
[20:31] <Doh5678> Yeah that's good
[20:31] <AleWi> Maybe is should be on http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Simpsons_Comics too
[20:31] <Phinbart> By the way, I've got the Meltdown reprint book....just waiting for Royale to arrive...
[20:32] <Cook879> please can i have a link to your list Phinbart
[20:32] <AleWi> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:Phinbart/List_of_The_Simpsons_merchandise
[20:32] <Phinbart> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:Phinbart/List_of_The_Simpsons_merchandise
[20:32] <Doh5678> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:Phinbart/List_of_The_Simpsons_merchandise
[20:32] <Cook879> thanks
[20:32] <AleWi> I recently ordered Simpson Annual 2012, Bart Simpson Annual 2012 and the new Treehouse of Horror-comic books
[20:33] <Doh5678> Good, can you write article on em' when you get 'em
[20:33] <Phinbart> My local Smyths superstore has lots of annuals, last year it had the Simpsons annual, so I'll be able to get the 2012 annuals from there.
[20:34] <Phinbart> New topic?
[20:34] <Phinbart> A merchandise wiki?
[20:34] <Cook879> Phinbart - off topic but you do now Hit & Run is non-canon right?
[20:34] <Cook879> *know
[20:34] <Doh5678> It could be a good idea
[20:35] <Cook879> on topic - Supergeeky is willing to help if we do go ahead
[20:35] <Doh5678> Simpsons question on Secret Fortune
[20:35] <Phinbart> Yes, sorry, I forgot to add the non-canon template.
[20:35] <Cook879> :P
[20:35] <AleWi>  A bit unnecessary we should have collected all at the same
[20:35] <Phinbart> Supergeeky1 has Simpsons band-aids.
[20:35] <Phinbart> What was the question?
[20:35] <Doh5678> The merchandise wiki will be a lot more detailed
[20:36] <Phinbart> Which of these Simpsons characters had appeared the fewest in 2010?
[20:36] <Doh5678> Which of these Simpsons characters ha
[20:36] <Phinbart> What was the answer?
[20:36] <Doh5678> you've done it for me
[20:36] <Doh5678> They said Chief wiggum
[20:37] <Doh5678> he appeared in the second most episodes
[20:37] <Cook879> were there options
[20:37] <Phinbart> Right....hopefully someone recorded that and will put it on YouTube....or it's on iPlayer.
[20:38] <Doh5678> Getting back on topic, I was about to say
[20:38] <Phinbart> Now an Only Fools and & Horses.
[20:38] <Doh5678> It's on Iplayer
[20:38] <Doh5678> Getting back on topic
[20:38] <Phinbart> Cut that bit, Cook879.
[20:38] <Doh5678> So everyone like the idea of the wiki?
[20:39] <Phinbart> Yes, but we'll wait for Solar's opinion.
[20:39] <Cook879> Make a topic on the forums, continue discussion there
[20:39] <Doh5678> AleWi, cjc Nick97 any opionions
[20:40] <Phinbart> Don't think Secret Fortune's on Iplayer, Doh....
[20:40] <cjc> on what?
[20:40] <cjc> I haven't been paying attention
[20:40] <Doh5678> A merchandise wiki
[20:40] <Phinbart> Search "Secret Fortune" on iPlayer, there's only the live version of tonight's ep.....
[20:41] <Phinbart> So, next topic.
[20:41] <Doh5678> A bit after the show
[20:41] <Phinbart> Pages for deletion.
[20:41] <Doh5678> Wikisimpsons:Pages for deletion
[20:41] <Phinbart> What bit after the show?
[20:42] * AleWi (53fb44c5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.251.68.197) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
[20:42] <cjc> you vote on stuff, then delete if its voted to be deleted
[20:42] <Phinbart> No....wait....Merchandise award
[20:42] <Phinbart> Just refreshed.
[20:42] <Doh5678> Everyone like it
[20:42] <Doh5678> ?
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[20:42] <Nick97> I like it.
[20:42] <AleWi> My browser crash
[20:43] <Phinbart> Winner announced on Monday....
[20:43] <Cook879> would help if other people contirbuted to deletion discussion 
[20:43] <Doh5678> So get editing!
[20:43] <Cook879> what topic are we on?
[20:43] <Phinbart> BRB, adding Cook879's edits to the merchandise award contribs.....
[20:43] <Phinbart> Merchandise award.
[20:43] <Doh5678> merchandise award
[20:43] <Cook879> My edits? What merc edits have I done?
[20:43] <Cook879> ok, i'll come back to that when we move on
[20:44] <Doh5678> Why do you not allow article creations
[20:44] <Doh5678> ?
[20:45] <Phinbart> Cause I can't link the diff..
[20:46] <Cook879> i'm saw you can
[20:46] <Cook879> *sure
[20:46] <Cook879> Try Permanent link in the toolbox - should give you a copy
[20:48] <Doh5678> Next topic then
[20:48] <AleWi> It feels a little cheat to get points for a small change
[20:48] <Cook879> it is an odd thing to do
[20:48] <Doh5678> Good point
[20:50] <Cook879> my small fixes shouldn't give me points - or if you want to do that at least give more points to those who do more work, like 5 for new article/major overhaul, and scale down
[20:51] <Doh5678> Next topic: Wikisimpsons:Pages for deletion
[20:52] <Cook879> As i said, it would help if others discussed, or then i might as well just deleted them straight away
[20:52] <AleWi> If there is one great article, maybe we can discuss
[20:52] <Doh5678> It prettty unpopular
[20:52] <AleWi> If there is one great article, maybe we can discuss
[20:52] <Cook879> wait, shouldn't we let Phinbart get bck on the whole voting thing
[20:52] <AleWi> However, it has not happened while I was here
[20:53] <Phinbart> What voting thing?
[20:53] <Cook879> about minor edits getting points/the same amount as major edits
[20:53] <Cook879> kinda unfair
[20:53] <Doh5678> merchandise award
[20:55] <Doh5678> Phinbart, HELLO
[20:55] <Phinbart> Can we just do like.....this for this week....and then I'll focus on more adding merchandise info to article next week. It's the trial run.
[20:56] <Cook879> Also why do the game pages count? They would come under Project: Games
[20:57] <Phinbart> They're still merchandise....
[20:57] <Phinbart> AleWi, is this for my merchandise page....http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:AleWi/Comics?
[20:57] <Doh5678> But it already has a project
[20:57] <Cook879> but the stuff in the game should come under Project Games
[20:58] <Cook879> if its an edit to the Game page itself, maybe, but not the contents
[20:58] <AleWi> It is perhaps a new http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Simpsons_Comics
[20:58] <Phinbart> Just for this week.....
[20:58] <Phinbart> please!
[20:58] <Doh5678> OK
[20:58] <Doh5678> but next week
[20:58] <Cook879> ok, but next week it could do with some tweaking
[20:59] <Doh5678> Next topic: Wikisimpsons:Pages for deletion
[20:59] <Phinbart> Game page, no template adding, no category adding...
[20:59] <Doh5678> no minor edits
[20:59] <Cook879> new articles
[21:00] <Doh5678> Next topic: Wikisimpsons:Pages for deletion
[21:00] <Cook879> so back to deletions, for what must be the third time
[21:00] <Doh5678> for the 4th time
[21:00] <Cook879> ok foruth :P
[21:01] <Doh5678> *fourth
[21:01] <Phinbart> How about we move onto the forum topic.
[21:01] <Cook879> Anyway the only problem is it will be underused
[21:01] <Cook879> we should get this one done first
[21:02] <Doh5678> If we modify the delete template
[21:02] <Phinbart> Don't delete http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/List_of_electrical_products , I need time to add the other electrical items first....
[21:02] <Cook879> I think it will work, but wheter it will be used or notis up to the rest of the users - only me and you have commented
[21:02] <Cook879> well post on the discussion Phinbart - that's why its there
[21:03] <Doh5678> Go to PfD
[21:04] <Doh5678> Ok then: Next topic
[21:04] <Phinbart> Don't matter. Added items to my list.
[21:04] <Cook879> but still, you should have your say - you are in charge of merchandise and its one of the pages
[21:05] <cjc> Is the merchandise a seperate wiki?
[21:05] <Phinbart> No, delete.
[21:05] <Doh5678> Not yet
[21:05] <cjc> Can't you just cross-wiki redirect it?
[21:05] <Phinbart> cjc, there is no merchandise wiki yet, someone will open a topic on the forums.
[21:05] * Cook879 thinks the head of project merchandise should do it
[21:06] <Doh5678> Which brings us on to our next topic
[21:06] <Phinbart> I'll ask Solar if he comes on later.
[21:06] * Doh5678 wishses we could just go on to the next topic
[21:07] <Phinbart> Forum
[21:07] <Doh5678> LOOOOOOOOOOOADS of spam
[21:07] <Cook879> yep - report it until Jake finds a fix
[21:07] <Doh5678> Any new spam?
[21:07] <Cook879> "Yeah, thanks for reporting those posts. It makes it a lot easier for us to remove them. I'm currently looking into a way to cut down the amount of forum spam, as apparently email verification isn't good enough. I should have it up and running soon!"
[21:08] <Cook879> Maybe it is - haven't seen any spam today
[21:09] <AleWi> Wonder how they found the forum,
[21:09] <Phinbart> For a few days the forum has been spam-free.
[21:09] <Doh5678> It is the internet
[21:10] <Doh5678> Maybe it's Simpsons Wikia
[21:10] <Cook879> not a few days - it was  loaded yesterday
[21:10] <Cook879> unlikely
[21:10] <Doh5678> Y?
[21:10] <Phinbart> Y?
[21:10] <Cook879> most likely spam bots spamming
[21:10] <Cook879> Y? as they don't seem to have many active users/probably don't keep track of us
[21:10] <Phinbart> From Simpsons Fanon and our wiki.
[21:11] <Phinbart> Remember the spam bot attack.
[21:11] <Phinbart> We should put it on the news section of the September newsletter.
[21:11] <Doh5678> Done that
[21:11] <Phinbart> The FORUM spam attack.
[21:12] <Doh5678> You do it
[21:12] <Doh5678> I cBA
[21:13] <Doh5678> Next topic then
[21:14] <Doh5678> How minor is minor?
[21:15] <Cook879> Well, i think speaking roles should be added to notability, as they are all featured in the later books
[21:16] <AleWi> I think as Cook879, and mentioned
[21:16] <Doh5678> What about non speaking ones
[21:16] <AleWi> if they are named
[21:16] <Cook879> According to Wikisimpsons:notability all named characters get a page
[21:17] <Doh5678> So mentioned ones get a page as well
[21:17] <AleWi> Right now: http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Category:Mentioned_characters
[21:17] <Cook879> Named characters, no matter how minor, should have an article.
[21:17] <Cook879> Unnamed characters who play a decent part in an episode should have an article.
[21:17] <Cook879> Unnamed recurring characters should have an article.
[21:17] <Cook879> Named mentioned characters should have an article
[21:17] <Cook879> from http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Wikisimpsons:Notability
[21:18] <Cook879> i think speaking roles should be added
[21:18] <Doh5678> What about only voice heard?
[21:19] <Phinbart> Unnamed non-speaking shouldn't have articles.
[21:19] <Cook879> that's a speaking role
[21:19] <Doh5678> Unamed though
[21:19] <Cook879> well we already have articles like "cookie saleswoman"
[21:20] <Doh5678> Was she seen?
[21:20] <Nick97> So, would characters like Bart's unnamed clssmates get article? They are recurring.
[21:20] <Cook879> Probably
[21:20] <Phinbart> Hmm....the 2nd part of "Red or Black?" is starting 5 mins late.
[21:20] <AleWi> Yes
[21:20] <Cook879> Nick97 - yes
[21:21] <Nick97> Ok. I can create those articles later then.
[21:21] <Doh5678> Thanks
[21:21] <Cook879> cool
[21:22] <Doh5678> Next topic: "Complete/FatHomer"?
[21:22] <AleWi> I do not know what it means
[21:22] <Nick97> What exactly is that topic about?
[21:22] <Cook879> Well we need Fathomer to discuss that - delay to next meeting
[21:22] <Cook879> I guess one of his subpages
[21:23] <Doh5678> What the F*** is it about?
[21:23] <Phinbart> When will the next meeting be?
[21:23] <Phinbart> Next Saturday, 17th?
[21:23] <Doh5678> 24th September
[21:23] <Phinbart> Why 24th?
[21:23] <Doh5678> Anniversary
[21:24] <Cook879> plus weekly is too often - not as much to discuss
[21:24] <Phinbart> Why can't we have a meeting on the 17th....
[21:24] <AleWi> Not next week, for short time
[21:24] <Doh5678> [21:24] <Cook879> plus weekly is too often - not as much to discuss
[21:24] <AleWi> 24th is the day before the season premiere in the U.S..
[21:25] <Doh5678> So a good time then
[21:25] <Phinbart> How about we'll see how many topics are added before Friday, and if there's not a lot of topics in the topic section, then we could move it to the 24th.
[21:25] <Doh5678> Everyone like 24th September?
[21:25] <Phinbart> Yeah, fine....
[21:25] <Cook879> so we can see who plans to do what after premiere, i.e. appearances, credits, e.t.c
[21:26] <Cook879> yeah - i'll be here whatever]
[21:27] <Doh5678> AleWi, cjc, Nick97: 24th September OK?
[21:27] <Nick97> 24th is fine
[21:27] <AleWi> Is okey
[21:27] <cjc> um..i dont think that far ahead
[21:27] <cjc> but whatever, doesn't matter much
[21:27] <Doh5678> OK then meeting formally disbanded