Difference between revisions of "Wikisimpsons:Editor meetings/August 20th"

Latest revision as of 15:01, August 20, 2011

[20:10]	FatHomer	Soo the fisrt subject: 9000 articles!
[20:10]	Doh5678	First Topic?
[20:10]	AleWi	9,135 articles now
[20:11]	Phinbart	Be Right Back!
[20:11]	Solar_Dragon	So, estimates for 10,000 articles?
[20:11]	Doh5678	Is everyone overjoyed?
[20:11]	Solar_Dragon	What date/month do you think we'll reach that
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[20:11]	Solar_Dragon	Hi Cook879
[20:12]	Cook879	hello
[20:12]	AleWi	End of September
[20:12]	FatHomer	Hi!
[20:12]	Solar_Dragon	[20:11] Solar_Dragon So, estimates for 10,000 articles?
[20:12]	Phinbart	Hi Cook879.
[20:12]	Doh5678	About DEcember
[20:12]	FatHomer	In about 23 days
[20:12]	Solar_Dragon	I'm guessing Octoberish if we keep on at this rate
[20:12]	Cook879	End of October required 13 pages a day
[20:12]	Phinbart	23 days?!
[20:13]	AleWi	Maybe October
[20:13]	FatHomer	well, we have gotten many pages the last few days
[20:13]	Solar_Dragon	We're gaining at least 20 articles per day right now I think. These are usually pretty good quality articles too
[20:13]	Doh5678	Better than Wikia anyways
[20:13]	AleWi	I have add 10 today
[20:13]	FatHomer	hm, maybe longer than 23 days then
[20:14]	Solar_Dragon	23 days would be about 460 more articles with 20 a day
[20:14]	Solar_Dragon	Bearing in mind with the school timetables, there'll be less activity
[20:14]	FatHomer	Wikia hav 6.908 articles now
[20:14]	Solar_Dragon	I reduced that
[20:14]	Solar_Dragon	Redirected a few pages to other pages
[20:15]	Cook879	true - college means i'll have less free time then at school anyway
[20:15]	Doh5678	About 50 days if 20 articles a day
[20:15]	AleWi	In june we got 8000
[20:15]	Phinbart	When I come home on a Monday from school, if a new ep of the Simpsons aired on the Sunday, I watch it on my laptop.
[20:16]	Solar_Dragon	I'll try and do that. Depends on my timetable though
[20:16]	Solar_Dragon	I might get home earlier, or later, than normal time
[20:16]	Phinbart	So, I would say we get 10, 000 in early November.
[20:16]	AleWi	Many new episode have already an article.
[20:16]	FatHomer	I don't know if this a important topic, should we go on
[20:16]	Solar_Dragon	Might as well
[20:16]	Doh5678	When season 23 starts we'll get a massive boost
[20:16]	Phinbart	Newsletter
[20:16]	FatHomer	yepp
[20:17]	Phinbart	All there is to do is the IRC section and the Other wikis section.
[20:17]	Phinbart	I'm supposed to do the other wikis section, but I don't know what to put in it!
[20:17]	Solar_Dragon	And the condensed version for the main page? How is that going?
[20:17]	Doh5678	Everyone happy about it going on the Main Page
[20:18]	FatHomer	what?
[20:18]	Solar_Dragon	Just put a bit of info about our other wikis
[20:18]	Phinbart	Yep, then condensed version with the links.
[20:18]	Cook879	Just some info about the other wikis i;d guess
[20:18]	Doh5678	http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/User:Doh5678/Newsletter_draft
[20:18]	Doh5678	Finished
[20:18]	Solar_Dragon	Cool
[20:18]	FatHomer	it looks good
[20:19]	Doh5678	Could we have an image like on Mario Wiki?
[20:19]	Solar_Dragon	Of what? We already have The Springfield Shopper and Kent Brockman images on the main page
[20:19]	Cook879	make a logo maybe
[20:20]	Solar_Dragon	We need an official name for the newsletter first
[20:20]	Doh5678	Any ideas?
[20:20]	AleWi	WikiSimpsons News
[20:20]	Solar_Dragon	Too obvious
[20:21]	FatHomer	yeah but why have something else
[20:21]	Doh5678	Springfiel Shopper's taken
[20:21]	Solar_Dragon	Channel 6 News
[20:22]	Doh5678	The Springfield Inquisitor?
[20:22]	FatHomer	i think it is good with a obvious name
[20:22]	Solar_Dragon	Hold a vote on the wiki for everyone to see then
[20:23]	FatHomer	me?
[20:23]	Doh5678	The vote will be inconclusive
[20:23]	Solar_Dragon	Someone. And why?
[20:23]	Cook879	true, voting hasn't been very conclusive recently
[20:24]	Solar_Dragon	Hence Votes and more voting needed. being on teh list of things to discuss
[20:25]	Solar_Dragon	Should we move on then?
[20:25]	Doh5678	Yeah OK
[20:25]	AleWi	ok
[20:26]	FatHomer	sure
[20:26]	Phinbart	Competition
[20:26]	Solar_Dragon	Competition - 11 days remaining to enter
[20:26]	Solar_Dragon	Anyone else going to enter?
[20:26]	Solar_Dragon	You can submit any edits made after July 1st
[20:26]	FatHomer	design competiotion?
[20:26]	Solar_Dragon	No, the editing competition
[20:26]	Solar_Dragon	Although that could come in also
[20:26]	Solar_Dragon	We still need more votes for that
[20:27]	Cook879	who knows, if i think i have a shot i may... but i doubt it.
[20:27]	Cook879	most of my edits have been small
[20:28]	FatHomer	why is this a topic?
[20:28]	Solar_Dragon	I'm willing to tell you the standings since the last time I changed them
[20:28]	Solar_Dragon	Anyone want to know who's first, second and third?
[20:28]	Solar_Dragon	Becuase I want more people to edit
[20:28]	Doh5678	Should we have another one next year?
[20:28]	Cook879	Alewi's in there some where, Mythigator as well
[20:28]	Phinbart	I'm last I think.
[20:28]	Solar_Dragon	And because postage to America has got to be expensive
[20:29]	AleWi	Five people are in the competition
[20:29]	Solar_Dragon	Doh5678, it depends on whether I have the money
[20:29]	Doh5678	i want to know
[20:29]	Nick97	I'd like to know.
[20:29]	Solar_Dragon	3rd is Doh5678
[20:29]	FatHomer	How much does jake get of the advertisments
[20:29]	Solar_Dragon	2nd is Mythigator
[20:29]	FatHomer	?
[20:30]	Solar_Dragon	No idea FatHomer
[20:30]	Cook879	also i'll be on holiday and be inactive from 27-3.Might be on a little
[20:30]	Solar_Dragon	1st is...
[20:30]	Cook879	AleWi>
[20:30]	Cook879	*?
[20:30]	Solar_Dragon	Yep
[20:30]	AleWi	There are many that are not checked yet
[20:30]	Solar_Dragon	There are large gaps between first second and third of over 100 points though
[20:31]	Solar_Dragon	AleWi just proved that quantity is better than quality
[20:31]	Nick97	As long as your quantity is through the roof.
[20:32]	Solar_Dragon	Which it was. I hated going through so many edits
[20:32]	AleWi	I'll write maybe not the best quality
[20:32]	Phinbart	Next topic?
[20:32]	FatHomer	Vote for head of Wikisimpsons.
[20:32]	Solar_Dragon	Yes, has everyone here voted?
[20:33]	FatHomer	i have
[20:33]	AleWi	no
[20:33]	Solar_Dragon	And remember, whatever way the decision goes, I won't bear any grudges for the way you voted or anything
[20:33]	Cook879	make sure you read the discussion - important info
[20:33]	Solar_Dragon	AleWi: http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Forum:Vote_to_make_Solar_Dragon_official_head_of_Wikisimpsons
[20:34]	FatHomer	just a question, if you become the head, do you get to decide like what the newsletter name will be and stuff like that?
[20:34]	Cook879	That's community vote stuff
[20:35]	Solar_Dragon	I would ask the community. It is only if the decision isn't made that I'll make the decisions
[20:35]	Phinbart	Me and Doh5678 are the writers of the newsletter.
[20:35]	FatHomer	what does head do then?
[20:35]	Solar_Dragon	If discussion and voting is inconclusive, I will make the decision
[20:35]	FatHomer	ok
[20:35]	Doh5678	Editors
[20:35]	Solar_Dragon	I might have a couple of new toys too
[20:35]	Doh5678	Phinbart
[20:35]	Phinbart	Yes?
[20:35]	FatHomer	toys?
[20:36]	Solar_Dragon	Tools
[20:36]	Doh5678	We're the Editors
[20:36]	Phinbart	Oh!
[20:36]	Phinbart	Next topic?
[20:36]	Phinbart	Easier access to the Project namespace.
[20:36]	Solar_Dragon	What Jake said: "Just to comment on this, there are a few unused administrative powers that we could entrust to the 'Head of Wikisimpsons' along with a new rank. The ability to hide content (revisions, files, usernames, logs, etc...) from public view comes to mind, as it is often restricted to only the highest ranking staff members on wikis. In my opinion, it is important to have at least...
[20:36]	Solar_Dragon	...one staff member that can do this in the event of copyright infringement, inappropriate material, or illicit activity"
[20:36]	FatHomer	what is it that people shouldn't read?
[20:36]	Solar_Dragon	No one seems bothered about projects any more and the major project we all need to focus on is Comics
[20:37]	FatHomer	yes
[20:37]	Solar_Dragon	Comics are easily our worse section of the wiki
[20:37]	Doh5678	Project as in Wikisimpsons namespace
[20:37]	FatHomer	and re-watch later
[20:37]	Phinbart	We could continue Project Episodes, Characters and Locations when a new season starts, then discontinue them in the summer, and re-start them in a new season.
[20:38]	AleWi	I do not care about project
[20:38]	FatHomer	why?
[20:38]	Doh5678	The project namespace as in the Wikisimpsons namespace
[20:38]	AleWi	I change what I think myself is important
[20:38]	Cook879	TBH, i do ignore projects as well - i decide what i want to work on and do that
[20:38]	Solar_Dragon	What about the Wikisimpsons namespace then Doh5678?
[20:38]	Cook879	Though we do need organisation its not for everyone
[20:39]	Solar_Dragon	I work on a bit of everything too, except comics...
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[20:39]	AleWi	Hi Mythigator
[20:39]	Phinbart	Hi, Mythigator!
[20:39]	FatHomer	Hi!
[20:39]	Mythigator	Greetings e1 - finally got a little time to drop into one of these
[20:39]	Phinbart	Ooooh! AleWi, you JUST got to it before I did.
[20:39]	Solar_Dragon	I just love the barrage of "hi"s someone receives when they join
[20:39]	Cook879	
[20:40]	AleWi	I am quick to write on computers.
[20:40]	Mythigator	Saturdays have been bad for the last few weeks
[20:40]	Doh5678	It's a pain to get to the wikisimpsons namespace
[20:40]	Phinbart	9 people on Wikisimpsons IRC (not including ChanServ)
[20:40]	Solar_Dragon	Wikisimpsons:Whatever
[20:40]	Solar_Dragon	Not that hard
[20:40]	Solar_Dragon	Also have Category:Wikisimpsons
[20:40]	FatHomer	wikisimpsons namespace?
[20:40]	Doh5678	It could be made easier
[20:40]	Mythigator	I thought it was easier to get to than SW's channel
[20:40]	AleWi	DaRanger is a new user at the site and he edit reight now
[20:41]	AleWi	i> DaRanger is a new user at the site and he edit right now
[20:41]	FatHomer	He was an editor at wikia
[20:41]	FatHomer	great that we get users from there
[20:41]	Solar_Dragon	I know
[20:41]	Mythigator	
[20:42]	Solar_Dragon	It's another stab in the back for Wikia and the knife is getting deeper
[20:42]	AleWi	Normaly you can go at http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Special:WebChat, but that don't work now
[20:42]	Solar_Dragon	No idea why...
[20:42]	Solar_Dragon	It has been changed I think
[20:42]	Solar_Dragon	Didn't it work for a short time?
[20:42]	Solar_Dragon	Then it stopped again?
[20:42]	Doh5678	Make a shortcut to the Manual of Style like WS:MOS
[20:42]	Cook879	it worked the other day, i looked
[20:42]	Mythigator	Is it just me, or is Wikia becoming an even bigger pain in the ass to get around on?
[20:42]	AleWi	Not work for me
[20:42]	Solar_Dragon	It is
[20:43]	Solar_Dragon	Not easy to get to recent changes when logged out
[20:43]	Solar_Dragon	Their new editor is horrible. Took me about 5 minutes to find the Save button
[20:43]	Cook879	yeah
[20:43]	Mythigator	Hopefully my shows will move off - Criminal Minds, NCIS, Mentalist
[20:43]	Phinbart	Next topic?
[20:43]	Solar_Dragon	Criminal Minds and NCIS are both good shows
[20:44]	Phinbart	Project Re-Watch
[20:44]	Mythigator	Good idea - I don't think "How Bad Does Wikia Suck" was on the agenda
[20:44]	FatHomer	should we invite daranger?
[20:44]	Solar_Dragon	Wait for him to become a bit more used to the wiki and us first
[20:44]	Cook879	it often crops up in our channel
[20:45]	FatHomer	yes, Project Re-Watch
[20:45]	Solar_Dragon	I removed about 10 pages from Simpsons Wikia today
[20:45]	FatHomer	
[20:45]	Solar_Dragon	Redirects rule!
[20:45]	Solar_Dragon	Anyway, Project Re-Watch
[20:45]	Phinbart	
[20:45]	Phinbart	:E
[20:46]	Solar_Dragon	I mostly do this on my own, as with All Singing, All Dancing and Burns, Baby Burns
[20:46]	Phinbart	:c
[20:46]	Phinbart	
[20:46]	FatHomer	yes i'm going to active Project Re-Watch again
[20:46]	Doh5678	Can we keep talking about how much we hate Wikia?
[20:46]	Solar_Dragon	Later
[20:46]	FatHomer	i am the leader of Project Re-Watch
[20:46]	Solar_Dragon	I could write a whole article about reasons why Wikia is bad
[20:46]	Doh5678	Do that
[20:46]	Solar_Dragon	We need people to start taking part in Project Re-Watch
[20:46]	FatHomer	i was thinking of watching an episode every second day insteed of a whole week
[20:47]	Solar_Dragon	Weekly would be the minimum
[20:47]	FatHomer	but we need active people then
[20:47]	Solar_Dragon	We also need credits remember
[20:47]	Solar_Dragon	And they are boring to write
[20:47]	AleWi	I try and can often see several episode each day
[20:47]	Solar_Dragon	I could only imagine doing them once a week
[20:47]	Cook879	At the moment creating articles for things in episodes isn't on me agenda
[20:47]	FatHomer	yes but almost 500 episodes and 500 weeks is a long time
[20:48]	Solar_Dragon	So what?
[20:48]	Mythigator	(reading project description) Looks like I'm already doing that - cool
[20:48]	Solar_Dragon	We don't have a time limit to be done by
[20:48]	FatHomer	almost ten years
[20:48]	AleWi	The site can never be completely
[20:48]	Solar_Dragon	A lot of articles are already almost complete
[20:48]	Cook879	wiki will go on forever (hopefully)
[20:48]	Solar_Dragon	sings "The wiki will go on forever" to the tune of the Simpsons will go on forever
[20:49]	FatHomer	ok, but should we start with episode one, two and so on
[20:49]	FatHomer	?
[20:49]	Cook879	i think find episodes that need help
[20:49]	Solar_Dragon	Start with shoddy articles with incomplete appearances, credits and quotes
[20:49]	FatHomer	when should it go active then?
[20:50]	Solar_Dragon	Not sure
[20:50]	Solar_Dragon	How about a change every Sunday?
[20:50]	FatHomer	ok, so from tomorrow?
[20:50]	Cook879	up to you really
[20:51]	FatHomer	ok, i'll start it tommorow
[20:51]	Phinbart	Next topic?
[20:51]	Solar_Dragon	Well, I'm in the car all day tomorrow and at my dad's for the next week but I'll be able to start the next week
[20:51]	Phinbart	Votes and more voting needed.
[20:51]	FatHomer	yes
[20:51]	Cook879	is still going through recentchanges...
[20:52]	Mythigator	Maybe put more "please vote" notices in the sitenotice?
[20:52]	Solar_Dragon	Featured articles, episodes, pictures, quotes, comprehensive articles
[20:52]	Solar_Dragon	All need votes
[20:52]	Doh5678	That makes no difference
[20:52]	Solar_Dragon	As does the skin design competition
[20:52]	Solar_Dragon	There's always a notice asking people to vote on featured stuff in the sitenotice
[20:53]	Cook879	how to i get sitenotice to reappear?
[20:53]	Cook879	i'll go vote then
[20:53]	Solar_Dragon	If everyone here was to vote, then that'll be good
[20:53]	FatHomer	delete cache mayby
[20:53]	Solar_Dragon	It needs to be edited again so it should be up unless you dismissed again
[20:53]	Solar_Dragon	Otherwise, delete cache
[20:54]	Cook879	i'll refresh cache
[20:55]	Phinbart	Next topic?
[20:55]	Doh5678	When the next meeting will be
[20:55]	Phinbart	When the next IRC meeting will be
[20:55]	Solar_Dragon	It can't clash with Doctor Who. Let's just say that
[20:55]	AleWi	Three weks again?
[20:56]	Mythigator	May I ask what the gist of the previous topics was, or should I just wat for the digest?
[20:56]	Solar_Dragon	I've been writing the transcript of the meeting
[20:56]	Solar_Dragon	See recent changes
[20:56]	Phinbart	27th?
[20:56]	Mythigator	Cool, Solar, TY
[20:56]	Doh5678	I acn't make 27th
[20:56]	Cook879	i'm not here then
[20:56]	Solar_Dragon	I'm in the car at that time I think
[20:57]	Doh5678	*can't
[20:57]	Phinbart	We could have it on a different day other than a Saturday?
[20:57]	Solar_Dragon	2 weeks at least
[20:57]	Solar_Dragon	And I won;t be active as much next week
[20:57]	Phinbart	30th? 31st?
[20:58]	Solar_Dragon	2 weeks at least
[20:58]	Cook879	Saturday is the only really feasable day
[20:58]	Solar_Dragon	Yeah
[20:58]	Cook879	i'm back on the third
[20:58]	Phinbart	1st? 2nd? 3rd?
[20:58]	Phinbart	4th?
[20:58]	Mythigator	Saturdays are dicey but I'll try
[20:59]	Phinbart	So....
[20:59]	Phinbart	3rd September?
[20:59]	Solar_Dragon	Hey, Clyde from Sarah Jane Adventures is on Casualty
[20:59]	Mythigator	Sept. 3 is on a holiday weekend in the USA. We have no plans, so I should be able to make the meeting.
[20:59]	Solar_Dragon	We'll see closer to the time but it could do
[21:00]	Phinbart	ok, then....3rd Sept
[21:00]	Phinbart	Wow, we're done before 9pm!