Wikisimpsons:Editor meetings/March 24th 2012

[20:10] <Phinbart> Next time we have a meeting it will be one hour earlier.
[20:10] <Phinbart> Meeting starts NOW!
[20:10] <AleWi> It's 4PM Wikisimpsons Time today, not 3PM at last time, but next time it's 3PM
[20:10] <Phinbart> Right, let's begin talking about the mobile site.
[20:10] <WebkinzMania> kk
[20:11] <Randomno> Meeting still started 8:00pm. Just the discussion that started 8:10pm.
[20:11] <Randomno> Anyway...
[20:11] <Randomno> We need a mobile site.
[20:11] <Phinbart> Randomno's being working on a main page dsign
[20:12] <Randomno> I've done it.
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[20:12] <Randomno> It looks fine on my mobile.
[20:12] <Randomno> :| WM.
[20:12] <AleWi> Wikipedia has a mobile version, I don't know how it works there
[20:12] <Phinbart> It works fine on my iPod Touch as well
[20:12] <@Solar_Dragon> But... we'd have to design a new skin
[20:12] <Randomno> AleWi, that one is okay but a bit useless.
[20:12] <@Solar_Dragon> Not just a main page
[20:12] <Randomno> Solar, a whole site.
[20:12] <@Solar_Dragon> Which we'd have to code
[20:12] <Randomno> We need to change navboxes and most things.
[20:13] <Randomno> Yeah, the skin won't be hard.
[20:13] <Phinbart> We could make somethings called "ExpandMob"
[20:13] <@Solar_Dragon> And that'd either fall to me, Cook or Jake as no other people here have any experience with that sort of thing
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[20:13] <@Solar_Dragon> And Randomno, yes it would be hard
[20:13] <Phinbart> IncompleteMob
[20:13] <@Solar_Dragon> You ever tried designing a website?
[20:13] <Phinbart> NeedsworkMob
[20:13] <WebkinzMania> My bad.
[20:14] <Randomno> We just need the logo, a small sidebar (probably not at the side), and the toolbox (edit, history, talk).
[20:14] <Randomno> Honestly, it shouldn't be / that / hard.
[20:14] <Randomno> Just cleaning up the Mr. Bean page.
[20:14] <@Solar_Dragon> Randomno, it sounds easier than it is
[20:14] <Randomno> BRB.
[20:14] <@Solar_Dragon> It would be hard to design a good skin for a mobile site
[20:15] <Phinbart> On touch-screen mobiles and iPod Touchs and iPads the sidebar could be dragged up from the bottom of the screen.
[20:15] <@Solar_Dragon> It would require the use of both HTML and PHP
[20:15] <@Solar_Dragon> And I bet you know very little HTML and no PHP at all Randomno
[20:16] <Randomno> I know quite a bit of HTML.
[20:16] <Randomno> But not PHP.
[20:16] <Randomno> I can do basic CSS.
[20:16] <AleWi> <p> <br>
[20:16] <@Solar_Dragon> I can do more complex CSS, I have a great understanding of HTML and I know some basic PHP
[20:17] <Randomno> <a href="http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Gary_Chalmers"><ul><b>Gary Chalmers</b></ul></a>
[20:17] <@Solar_Dragon> Website design is hard though. Wiki design, harder
[20:17] <Randomno> BRB.
[20:19] <AleWi> next topic?
[20:19] <@Solar_Dragon> brb
[20:20] <Randomno> Back.
[20:21] <Phinbart> Improving the Tapped Out article
[20:21] <@Solar_Dragon> Back
[20:21] <@Solar_Dragon> Sorry, alcohol makes you need to piss a lot more than usual :P
[20:22] <Phinbart> ALL images on the Tapped Out/Appearances need to be from the game.
[20:22] <Phinbart> Except the donut image
[20:23] <@Solar_Dragon> To be honest, the article is great compared to many other game articles
[20:23] <@Solar_Dragon> We should focus on those more
[20:24] <Phinbart> That's why it should gain lots of SUPPORT votes in the featured article nom
[20:24] <WebkinzMania> I'm curious if there's still more than we haven't added. like, unlockable things.
[20:25] <Phinbart> Should I create a TAPPED OUT SANDBOX ?
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[20:25] <Phinbart> Hi, Cook
[20:25] <@Solar_Dragon> However, it is incomplete still Phinbart
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[20:25] <@Cook879> hello
[20:25] <Phinbart> Randomno's doing the transcript for the meeting so you can read it afterwards
[20:25] <@Cook879> okily-dokely
[20:25] <Randomno> I enabled seconds on the time. :)
[20:25] <WebkinzMania> Are there any more unlockable things, like characters and items that we haven't added yet?
[20:26] <Randomno> Not too many.
[20:26] <Randomno> El felipe and that IP are helping a lot.
[20:26] <Phinbart> Webkinzmania, you can add them
[20:26] <AleWi> It is not easy to find them
[20:26] <@Solar_Dragon> I'll wait for a bit before I get more alcohol, don't want to get drunk too quickly :P
[20:26] <AleWi> We must play the game and written it down
[20:26] <Phinbart> I should've nomed El felipe for the Golden Homer nom (by the way no-on'es voted)
[20:26] <WebkinzMania> Okay, just curious.
[20:27] <Phinbart> AleWi, most of us can't play the game.
[20:27] <Phinbart> I got my iPod touch last week and the game hasn't been re-added to the App Store
[20:27] <AleWi> I can't play the game, I have only watch videos on Youtube when I add things
[20:28] <AleWi> They should do it for Facebook
[20:29] <AleWi> The game has been unavailable on App Store in one month soon
[20:29] <Phinbart> On 3 April (I think) it should be one month
[20:29] <WebkinzMania> http://macrumors.com should update about that a bit. :p
[20:29] <Phinbart> Hopefully it'll be re-added in the next month.
[20:29] <WebkinzMania> i've seen a lot of updates about it. :p
[20:30] <Phinbart> Hardly anything on Google News
[20:30] <Phinbart> I searched the Internet once and had a big image of "The Store".
[20:30] <AleWi> http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/forums/show/4129.page;jsessionid=9E93C9D01D6D5739CE561B4D6615A72E
[20:30] <Phinbart> But now I can't find it because my Google Chrome history has vanished.
[20:31] <@Solar_Dragon> Phinbart, someone was watching porn on your computer then deleted browsing history
[20:31] <Phinbart> I refresh http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/categories/show/233.page all the time.
[20:31] <Phinbart> No, something's happened to the profile on Google Chrome. Dunno what that is.
[20:33] <Phinbart> So, WebKinz, are you working on the Unlockable things?
[20:33] <WebkinzMania> oh, i was just asking. i don't have an ipod/iphone currently or the game.
[20:33] <Phinbart> Yes, you can work on it.
[20:34] <Phinbart> But I would work on it in your sandbox or the wiki's sandbox first though
[20:34] <@Solar_Dragon> ...
[20:34] <@Solar_Dragon> Phinbart, he doesn't have an iPod or the game :|
[20:35] <Randomno> What are we talking about now?
[20:35] <Phinbart> When he gets an Ipod or anything
[20:35] <Phinbart> Should we move topic?
[20:35] * Solar_Dragon is playing with staple removers
[20:35] <Phinbart> We can discuss Tapped Out later.
[20:35] <@Solar_Dragon> *iPod
[20:36] <Phinbart> Also, Cook, can I have some more info on quests and stuff please?
[20:36] * Randomno once got a staple in his thumb. Beware, Solar.
[20:36] <@Solar_Dragon> I've just got staple removers :|
[20:37] <@Cook879> Phinbart: Not really, I don't have time
[20:37] <Phinbart> OK
[20:37] <Phinbart> Framegrab pages.
[20:37] <Randomno> Yay!
[20:37] <WebkinzMania> I think if people are willing to do it
[20:37] <Phinbart> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Simpsons_Roasting_on_an_Open_Fire/Framegrabs
[20:37] <WebkinzMania> We should have pages for them.
[20:37] <AleWi> I don't think this wiki should have it
[20:37] <Randomno> Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do iy!
[20:38] <Randomno> *it
[20:38] <Phinbart> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Template:Framegrabs
[20:38] <Randomno> I've got loads more I can upload soon.
[20:38] <Randomno> If we have them.
[20:38] <@Cook879> I dunno...
[20:38] <WebkinzMania> I like the idea of it, especially since Simpsons have a lot of DVDs and iTunes.
[20:39] <Randomno> WM, how is that related?
[20:39] <Phinbart> Should we have a vote?
[20:39] <@Cook879> easier to get high-quality frames
[20:39] <WebkinzMania> More people are likely to have them then.
[20:39] <@Cook879> we don't want crappy ones with logos in the corner and stuff
[20:39] <WebkinzMania> And that too. ^
[20:40] <Randomno> I have The Simpsons Movie DVD. But only that one. :|
[20:40] <Randomno> If you do lots, you can only get them as jpg.
[20:40] <@Cook879> I brought Season 5 from CEX for £8 yesterday
[20:41] <Phinbart> I have 1st season, 2nd season, 4th season, 12th season, 13th season, 14th season
[20:41] <AleWi> I have all episode you can buy on DVD
[20:41] <@Cook879> And got Season 4 for the same price a few months before
[20:41] <Phinbart> 3rd season as well
[20:41] <@Cook879> Slowly working my way through for the commentary
[20:41] <Phinbart> 8th season as well
[20:41] <Randomno> The Engrish guy / would / have them all, wouldn't he?
[20:43] <Phinbart> So, who thinks it's a good idea to have framegrab pages? Everyone can contribute. Say "I" if you do.
[20:43] <Phinbart> I
[20:44] <Phinbart> ---
[20:44] <Randomno> I.
[20:44] <@Solar_Dragon> Me
[20:44] <@Solar_Dragon> ('cause I don't wanna say I)
[20:44] <Randomno> Solar: -_-
[20:44] <Phinbart> -_-
[20:44] <@Cook879> i
[20:44] <Phinbart> anyone else?
[20:45] <AleWi> Which size and filetype should the images have
[20:45] <@Solar_Dragon> Purely because we want to be a replacement for just about every Simpsons website out there
[20:45] <Randomno> Engrish person: The only converter from video to image is to jpg, and there about 50KB, I think. I use HypeCam to record them and save them to my computer.
[20:46] <@Solar_Dragon> brb, alcohol makes you need to piss a lot more than usual :|
[20:46] <WebkinzMania> I (latE)
[20:46] <Phinbart> OK, Randomno.
[20:47] <Randomno> You said that.
[20:47] <Phinbart> START UPLOADIN' IMAGES!
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[20:47] <Randomno> Hang on.
[20:47] <Randomno> I need to switch computer.
[20:47] <Randomno> But I can do them first thing tommorrow.
[20:47] <Randomno> Anyone can do Bart the Genius if they want.
[20:47] <Phinbart> Start with 7G08 first.
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[20:49] <Phinbart> Right, are we finished with Framegrab pages?
[20:49] <Randomno> Yeah, I think it's yeah.
[20:49] <Phinbart> OK, Gag pages then
[20:49] <Phinbart> I'll work on them
[20:50] <Randomno> 6 for, 0 against.
[20:50] <Randomno> For gags, just do them when you can.
[20:50] <@Solar_Dragon> Back, drink number 4 :P
[20:50] <Phinbart> Anyone want to say anything about the Gag Pages?
[20:51] <Phinbart> Solar? Cook? AleWi? WebKinz?
[20:51] <@Solar_Dragon> We need to make them all.
[20:51] <@Solar_Dragon> Gotta' make them all.
[20:51] <Randomno> Not / all / of them.
[20:51] <Randomno> Just most.
[20:51] <@Solar_Dragon> Yes, all
[20:51] <@Solar_Dragon> All that need them
[20:51] <Randomno> We have lots of tabs missing for other pages.
[20:51] <Randomno> We can miss out about maybe 20 max, I think. Then add them in later.
[20:52] <Phinbart> We could bring back Project Re-Watch
[20:52] <Phinbart> I'll be head of it
[20:52] <@Solar_Dragon> That failed
[20:52] <@Solar_Dragon> Miserably
[20:52] <Phinbart> How about we run it for a trial?
[20:52] <@Solar_Dragon> But people can feel free to re-watch episodes and fill in the blanks themselves
[20:52] <@Solar_Dragon> Like I do sometimes
[20:53] <Phinbart> But what about episodes that aren't on DVD?
[20:53] <Phinbart> They CAN watch them on the web...
[20:53] <Phinbart> ...but the vids could have been removed...
[20:53] <Phinbart> ...and it's a pain to search for them
[20:53] <Randomno> Well, you can stick the DVD in your computer.
[20:54] <@Cook879> Phinbart: http://watchseries.eu/serie/the_simpsons
[20:54] <@Solar_Dragon> I've found them all on the Web.
[20:54] <@Solar_Dragon> I have several different sources I use
[20:54] <Phinbart> Just sayin'
[20:55] <Phinbart> Right.
[20:55] <Phinbart> Let's do the gag pages season-by-season.
[20:55] <@Solar_Dragon> Mum thinks this is my second drink. It's my fourth. :|
[20:55] <UnknownFork> lol
[20:55] <Phinbart> Season 1-break-Season 2-break-Season 3-break, etc.
[20:56] <@Solar_Dragon> I did a lot of season 1
[20:56] <Phinbart> We could also list the chalkboard gags in different languages as well.
[20:57] <@Cook879> I think that's more under the German/French/etc subpages
[20:57] <Phinbart> I think DrNick might have joined and left
[20:57] <Randomno> Are we finished for gags?
[20:57] <@Cook879> brb
[20:57] <Phinbart> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/DrNick
[20:57] <Phinbart> Think so.
[20:57] <Phinbart> Well, that's it for this SHORT meeting...
[20:58] <Randomno> No.
[20:58] <Randomno> Censority.
[20:58] <Phinbart> Eh?
[20:58] <Phinbart> Oh. Sorry. Didn't see that.
[20:58] <Phinbart> Just refreshed page and there it was.
[20:59] <@Solar_Dragon> Wikisimpsons should be uncensored
[20:59] <Randomno> This is my view on censority:
[20:59] <Phinbart> ...
[21:00] <@Solar_Dragon> The Simpsons uses swear words and has "nudity" in the show so why shouldn't we do the same for our wiki
[21:00] <@Solar_Dragon> ?
[21:00] <Randomno> Words from the episode like the ones in User:Will k/workbench don't need to be censored as they were in the episode. Words that were jokes or were removed in the airing should be starred with the explain template.
[21:00] <Phinbart> Has anyone noticed that some former gags in episodes have faded into obsecurity?
[21:00] <@Solar_Dragon> What?
[21:00] <Phinbart> Prank calls....
[21:01] <@Solar_Dragon> Yeah, that's kind of sad. I wish they'd do more of those
[21:01] <@Solar_Dragon> The Church marquee happens less as well
[21:01] <Phinbart> D'oh! hasn't been said much
[21:01] <Randomno> Euan Mihug.
[21:01] <@Solar_Dragon> Neither has "Mmm..."
[21:01] <Phinbart> I think they've forgot about them gags
[21:01] <@Cook879> back
[21:02] <@Cook879> we could bring up falterd discussions
[21:03] <@Solar_Dragon> Randomno, if The Simpsons uses swear words, we might as well too
[21:03] <@Solar_Dragon> That's the way I see it
[21:03] <@Solar_Dragon> The Simpsons is uncensored (we saw Marge's boobs in one episode (no nipples though :P ))
[21:03] <Randomno> But not the major ones.
[21:03] <@Cook879> and PLayboy
[21:03] <Randomno> Not ones that are usually censored with bleeps and stuff on TV.
[21:03] <Phinbart> If we could get an IRC interview or any kind of interview with any member of crew, it would be good to mention how those gags don't appear that often and ask why.
[21:03] <Randomno> I'm not talking about nudity.
[21:04] <@Solar_Dragon> Swear words are often used.
[21:04] <@Solar_Dragon> Bart: "Bastard, bastard, bastard, bastard, bastard..."
[21:04] <Randomno> Meh.
[21:04] <Randomno> Those aren't usually censored, are they?
[21:05] <Randomno> But Sh** and F**k are.
[21:05] <@Solar_Dragon> So what? Wikipedia is uncensored ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck ) so why shouldn't we?
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[21:06] <AleWi> Every episode have a rating
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[21:06] <Phinbart> Should we do a ratings page?
[21:06] <Randomno> 'Cos we're not Wikipedia.
[21:06] <Phinbart> Where we list the episode's ratings
[21:07] <Phinbart> (as in television ratings)
[21:07] <@Solar_Dragon> But Randomno, we use many of the same policies as Wikipedia and I honestly see no reason why we should be censored.
[21:08] <@Solar_Dragon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunt
[21:11] <UnknownFork> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger
[21:11] <Phinbart> OK, let's draw this meeting to a close
[21:11] <Phinbart> Hi UnknownFork
[21:11] <UnknownFork> Hi
[21:11] <Phinbart> Do you have Tapped Out?
[21:11] <UnknownFork> No.
[21:11] <UnknownFork> I don't know what it is.
[21:11] <Phinbart> OK
[21:12] <Phinbart> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/The_Simpsons:_Tapped_Out
[21:12] <UnknownFork> kk
[21:12] <@Solar_Dragon> No, but he got "Tapped" when he went out. :|
[21:12] <UnknownFork> lol
[21:12] <Phinbart> Shall this meeting be closed?
[21:12] <AleWi> next meeting?
[21:12] <Phinbart> Oh, yeah
[21:12] <Phinbart> 7th April
[21:12] <AleWi> No, it's easter then
[21:12] <@Solar_Dragon> Whenever :P
[21:13] <UnknownFork> Removed from app store?
[21:13] <UnknownFork> How gay.
[21:13] <Phinbart> Well, we break up fro the Easter hols on Friday...
[21:13] <@Solar_Dragon> Plus, I swear the last meeting was only last week :S
[21:13] <Phinbart> So sometime during those two weeks.
[21:13] <AleWi> the last meeting was for two weeks
[21:13] <@Solar_Dragon> Yeah, there was a lot of glitches with it
[21:13] <@Solar_Dragon> Apparently
[21:13] <Randomno> Oh, darn it.
[21:13] <Phinbart> Yes, Tapped Out WAS removed from the App Store
[21:13] <UnknownFork> And it was only in the US for two days.
[21:13] <Randomno> I had to clear the messages. :|
[21:14] <Randomno> Now I can't do a transcript. <:(
[21:14] <Randomno> :(
[21:14] <UnknownFork> I have the Simpsons Arcade
[21:14] <Phinbart> I can!
[21:14] <Phinbart> So do I UnknownFork
[21:15] <@Solar_Dragon> I'm urm... physically unable to right now XSD
[21:15] <@Solar_Dragon> XD
[21:15] <UnknownFork> I'll just wait and get it for Android
[21:15] <Phinbart> Right, meeting closed....NOW!