Wikisimpsons:Editor meetings/October 15th
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[20:00] <Phinbart> Meeting to order! [20:00] <Phinbart> The counter's going up. [20:00] <@Cook879> :P [20:00] <+AleWi> The time is plus now 45. 46, 47 [20:00] <Phinbart> main page redesign [20:00] <@Solar_Dragon> I think my dinner's almost ready [20:00] <+supergeeky1> It's trolling us. [20:00] <+supergeeky1> Who's leading this meeting? [20:00] <@Cook879> just ate mine [20:01] <Phinbart> Solar? Are you? [20:01] <@Cook879> Though in 10 mins or so i'll have to do a brb [20:01] <@Solar_Dragon> I'm having dinner in a minute so I can't! [20:01] <@Solar_Dragon> Someone needs to make a log of the meeting too [20:01] <Phinbart> Cook an can lead, then... [20:01] <Phinbart> I am! [20:02] <Phinbart> an can :) [20:02] <+supergeeky1> Same. I've logged everything from the past four years. [20:02] <@Solar_Dragon> Okay, firstly, anyone with eBay, buy mah stuff! http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/solardragon2010/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686 >:( [20:02] <Phinbart> Didn't know you had an eBay account. [20:02] * Cook879 note to self - remove soloar's link :P [20:03] <Phinbart> No Simpsons! [20:03] <@Solar_Dragon> XD [20:03] <@Solar_Dragon> No Simpsons stuff, no [20:03] <@Solar_Dragon> Doctor Who and Top Trumps atm :P [20:03] <Phinbart> Why no Simpsons stuff? [20:03] <Phinbart> Ahem...main page redesign! [20:03] <@Solar_Dragon> Because I don't have any Simpsons stuff I want to sell :P [20:04] <@Cook879> Anyway mainpage redisgn - someone design - we vote - simples [20:04] <@Solar_Dragon> I was thinking of the tabber extension but apparently it's dangerous XD [20:05] <Phinbart> Dangerous? [20:05] <@Solar_Dragon> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Tabber [20:05] <@Solar_Dragon> Security risk :P [20:05] <Phinbart> Right. [20:06] <+AleWi> I think we didn't use that [20:06] <@Solar_Dragon> I want to use it though :P [20:06] <@Solar_Dragon> I'm sure we'll be fine using it [20:06] <+Doh5678> There's a fix [20:06] <@Solar_Dragon> Exactly [20:07] <Phinbart> If any accounts get hijacked, I'm blaming it on you! :P [20:07] <+supergeeky1> Honestly, unless I'm missing something, I wouldn't bother with the tabber extension. It's just as easy to make it with CSS and wiki code. [20:08] <@Solar_Dragon> Really? [20:08] <@Solar_Dragon> Anyway, I got to go and eat now [20:08] <@Solar_Dragon> Bai! [20:08] <+supergeeky1> Yeah, AFAIK. Darthipedia uses something similar for a few paes. [20:08] <+supergeeky1> *pages [20:08] <+supergeeky1> http://darthipedia.com/wiki/Darthipedia:Featured_Sithspawn [20:08] == Solar_Dragon has changed nick to SD|FOOD [20:08] <@Cook879> Is anyone thinking of making a design? [20:09] <+supergeeky1> It's a bit primitive compared to tabber, but it can be worked on. [20:09] <Phinbart> Not me. I'm not that good with making main pages. [20:09] <+supergeeky1> As for a main page design, I was planning on developing one myself in the coming weeks. [20:09] <Phinbart> Though for the merch.wiki. [20:10] <+supergeeky1> Right. I'll probably work on a main page design for Merchandise Wiki first. Then develop it further for Wikisimpsons. [20:10] <+supergeeky1> Right. I'll probably work on a main page design for Merchandise Wiki first. Then develop it further for Wikisimpsons. [20:10] <@Cook879> Cool [20:10] <+supergeeky1> But again, it won't be for a few weeks. I have a large workload ahead of me that needs to be completed by November. [20:10] <Phinbart> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Wikisimpsons:Editor_meetings/October_15th [20:11] <+supergeeky1> o.0 [20:11] <+supergeeky1> Is the meeting over, or did you just get ahead of yourself? [20:11] <+AleWi> The meeting is not over [20:11] <@Cook879> We do it every 15 mins or so [20:12] <Phinbart> Next topic: Moving pages over to the merchandise wiki. [20:12] <+supergeeky1> Ah. Alrighty then. [20:12] <@Cook879> brb [20:12] == Cook879 has changed nick to Cook879|BRB [20:12] <+AleWi> I have move one article today [20:12] <+AleWi> The comics is hardest to do [20:13] <+supergeeky1> Are all of Merch's articles copied from Wikisimpsons, or are some of them original? [20:13] <+AleWi> Some is copied and some orginal [20:13] <Phinbart> Some are original. [20:13] <+supergeeky1> Mmm. [20:14] <+AleWi> They do not have a lot of visitors [20:14] <+Doh5678> True [20:14] <+AleWi> Starting to think the wiki was a little bad idea [20:15] <+Doh5678> Why? [20:15] <+supergeeky1> Uh... considering the wiki was created only several weeks ago, that's way too soon to decide. [20:16] <+AleWi> They are hard to find what you want [20:16] <+supergeeky1> The Wikisimpsons community isn't that large in itself, so I wouldn't have any high expectations for Merchandise for another year or so. [20:16] <Phinbart> I was gonna say interpret the merch. wiki into the main wiki before the merch. wiki was created, but now...it's created... [20:16] <@Cook879|BRB> back [20:16] == Cook879|BRB has changed nick to Cook879 [20:17] <+Doh5678> So if the wiki's a failure, what do we do [20:17] <+Doh5678> ? [20:17] <@Cook879> I agree with supergeeky1 its too early to deem the wiki as a failure or not [20:17] <Phinbart> Next topic: Main page at Merchandise wiki [20:17] <+Doh5678> IF [20:17] <@Cook879> I was typing that before you posted Doh5678 [20:17] <@Cook879> Why move on - we're still chatting [20:18] <+supergeeky1> I do have to agree with AleWi on his last point, though. It's incredibly hard to sift through pages. [20:18] <@Cook879> Also AleWi - I know what you mean about red links for comics - nothing really we can do about that [20:18] <+AleWi> Many people who seeking information are not there [20:19] <+AleWi> They can not find what they are looking after [20:19] <@Cook879> The wiki does lack structure - we need templates, lists and categories made as well as articles themselves [20:19] <+Doh5678> http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Fakelink [20:20] <+Doh5678> That's sort of a way around the red link [20:20] <@Cook879> How? [20:20] <+AleWi> How? [20:20] <@Cook879> We want red links to appear [20:20] <+Doh5678> The link is blue even though it's ment to be red [20:21] <+Doh5678> just reverse it [20:21] <+Doh5678> And make it an actual link [20:21] <+supergeeky1> I don't get what that would be used for. [20:21] <+supergeeky1> Are we talking about linking to merchandise wiki, or something else? [20:22] <@Cook879> from Merch to main [20:22] <+supergeeky1> Ah. [20:22] <@Cook879> We have many comic stories that have no page so Comics are linking to non-existent pages and are not red links [20:22] == supergeeky1 has changed nick to SG1|Clitoris [20:23] <Phinbart> OH! [20:23] <+AleWi> If it was a namespace, it worked [20:23] == supergeeky1 [~sg1@c-71-200-165-110.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #wikisimpsons [20:23] <Phinbart> ? [20:24] <+AleWi> Hi supergeeky1 [20:24] <+AleWi> supergeeky1 has changed nick to SG1|Clitoris?? [20:24] <supergeeky1> Hi. Sorry. I switched over to my Mac so that I can type more easily. [20:24] <Phinbart> Next topic: Seymour Skinner continuity [20:24] <+AleWi> Who is supergeeky1? [20:24] <@Cook879> 2 other options - Ignore it or make short stubs [20:24] <@Cook879> wait Phinbart [20:24] <@Cook879> Didn't you say Merch main page was next? [20:24] <+Doh5678> No next topic is: Main page at Merchandise wiki [20:24] <supergeeky1> Yeah, Phinbart keeps skipping topics. [20:25] <+AleWi> Main page at Merchandise wiki is next [20:25] <@Cook879> It isn't a race Phinbart :P [20:25] <@Cook879> AleWi - how easy would it be to create stubs for all the comic stories we need? [20:25] <+Doh5678> brb twoillet [20:26] <+AleWi> It goes without the plot [20:26] <Phinbart> TwoilleT? [20:27] <+Doh5678> Fake french [20:27] <@Cook879> Yeah - just a basic 1 line summary [20:27] <+AleWi> It us possible without the plot [20:27] <+AleWi> *is [20:28] <@Cook879> That's a theasible option - I'll help if you want - Just move the page and i'll do any pages left over [20:28] <+Doh5678> Or just redirect [20:28] <@Cook879> So redirect back to the page they just came from? [20:28] <+Doh5678> To the english [20:29] <@Cook879> But that's the thing - we need to create the pages on English first :P [20:29] <+AleWi> It is not easy [20:30] <@Cook879> I don't mean anything big - a template, the sentence about where its from then a 1-2 line summary, like "Bart gets in trouble for pulling a prank" that kinda thing [20:31] <@Cook879> We solve the problem and get more pages that will gain searches - even if they are stubs [20:32] <+AleWi> I do not have all comics so I can't wirte plot for all [20:32] <+AleWi> *write [20:32] <@Cook879> I'll fill in others using the interwebz [20:33] <@Cook879> I keep tabs on all RC's so I know what needs creating [20:34] <+AleWi> If we do it, we get 10,000 articles [20:34] <@Cook879> Bare in mind we're losing more then 200 articles to merch though [20:35] <@Cook879> As for the next topic - the main page for merch - anyone got anything to add from what's already been covered? [20:35] <@Cook879> Phinbart - are you going to update the log? [20:35] <supergeeky1> Actually, I wouldn't mind taking suggestions for features that you guys would like to see added to Merch's main page. [20:35] <supergeeky1> Assuming you have any. [20:35] <+AleWi> New comics [20:36] <Phinbart> log? [20:36] <@Cook879> New stuff and maybe rare stuff [20:36] <@Cook879> http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/Wikisimpsons:Editor_meetings/October_15th <-- log [20:37] <@Cook879> dw you have since i last checked [20:37] <Phinbart> I'm updating it now. [20:37] <supergeeky1> I was definitely considering new releases, in the news and did you know. Perhaps even user of the month. I wasn't sure whether there would be enough articles for us to include FA on the main page. [20:37] <+AleWi> Item of month? [20:37] <Phinbart> I'm gonna publish the rest at quarter to. [20:37] <@Cook879> There will certainly be enough articles - the quality is the question [20:38] <supergeeky1> Exactly. I'd rather us not lower our standards for merchandise wiki. [20:38] <supergeeky1> Size of the articles is the biggest factor. [20:38] <+AleWi> What do you think http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/The_Gnarly_Adventures_Of_Busman ? [20:38] <Phinbart> Read it. [20:39] <+AleWi> Many products are not very much information about to find [20:39] <@Cook879> That's the kind of thing - though a short description of the comic would help i can add them after [20:42] <supergeeky1> Way to kill the meeting. [20:42] <@Cook879> Don't look at me :P [20:42] <@Cook879> What is next? [20:43] <+AleWi> Seymour Skinner continuity [20:43] <@Cook879> The dreaded topic :P [20:43] <supergeeky1> I can't even tell anymore. [20:43] <@Cook879> as you could see on the forums with the log from our chat [20:43] <+AleWi> I think it's canon, there are writers who forget it sometimes [20:44] <@Cook879> That bit isn't disputed much (except by SD|FOOD) but the issue I think Will_k was getting at is the history of the characters and how to handle that [20:44] <Phinbart> The Principal and the Pauper, I think, is non-canon. [20:44] <+AleWi> He knows everything about the real Skinner's childhood [20:45] <+AleWi> He is entitled to his life [20:46] <+AleWi> Milhouse first kiss was not with Homer, though he said it once time. [20:46] <@Cook879> On the basis of the past I could support non-canonitiy provided it doesn't mess other things up - like that small "Principal Tazmarian" in Dohbot [20:47] <@Cook879> I think canoniticity is best left till Will-k comes online, usually in an hour or 2 [20:47] <Phinbart> I'll be OFF in an hour or two. [20:47] <Phinbart> -_- [20:48] <Phinbart> New competition planning shall wait till Solar comes back (?), so...*browsing through list* newsletter! [20:48] <@Cook879> Well we can continue if you want, just its a topic he added [20:48] <supergeeky1> It'd probably be a good idea to create a template for ambiguously/conflicting canon material, which covers quite a bit of Skin [20:50] <@Cook879> As for the newsletter - why is it still in Phinbart's user space? [20:50] <+AleWi> Marge has two birthday [20:51] <+AleWi> Bart was born April 1, and two days before Mardi Gras [20:51] <Phinbart> Two birthdays? [20:51] <+AleWi> may and october [20:52] <@Cook879> they're little things - The Skinner thing could, as Will said, change Skinner's article completly. [20:52] <Phinbart> What eps? [20:52] <+Doh5678> Cook879: No [20:52] <+Doh5678> What are we on? [20:52] <@Cook879> ok, so we can use that then. [20:52] <@Cook879> Well we started moving on but went back :P [20:53] <+Doh5678> What topic? [20:53] <@Cook879> next is newsletter [20:53] <supergeeky1> This meeting could use better moderation. It's getting confusing as hell when Phinbart keeps switching topics on us. [20:54] <@Cook879> Well we have lulls of silence and Phinbart randomly interjects when he feels [20:54] <Phinbart> Let's do competition planning when Solar's back. [20:54] <+Doh5678> ? [20:54] <+Doh5678> Have we done New competition planning [20:54] <@Cook879> Waiting for SD|FOOD on that one [20:55] <@Cook879> Ok everyone want to move on? We'll do a vote system [20:55] <+Doh5678> So newsletter then? [20:55] <Phinbart> :) [20:55] <+AleWi> yes [20:55] <+Doh5678> I'll catch up later [20:55] <@Cook879> Ok, Newsletter [20:56] <Phinbart> When I'm gone someone will have to do the meeting transcript. [20:56] <@Cook879> When are you going? [20:56] <Phinbart> About around 10ish. [20:56] <@Cook879> that's an hour away :P [20:56] <+AleWi> He must pack :) [20:56] <+Doh5678> Newsletter [20:57] <@Cook879> Anyway why is the newsletter not in Wikisimpsons space yet? [20:57] <supergeeky1> Don't worry. As I said before, I have everything set to automatically log, so I'll put up a transcript when the meeting is over. [20:57] <+Doh5678> No idea [20:57] <+Doh5678> I CBA moving it [20:57] <supergeeky1> How often is the newsletter updated? Is that like a monthly thing, or longer? [20:57] <+Doh5678> Monthly [20:57] <+Doh5678> It needs help [20:57] <Phinbart> When I'm going, I'll save the log...and one of you can update it from my "Smell ya later." message. [20:58] <@Cook879> TBH I just read it as its being constructed [20:59] <@Cook879> What's everyones view of the newsletter? [20:59] <Phinbart> I think it's good. [20:59] <+Doh5678> ^ [20:59] <supergeeky1> I don't know enough about it to form an opinion. I literally didn't even know it existed until I was asked to do the interview. [20:59] <@Cook879> you make it - you'd say that :P [20:59] == Iamred [~Iamred@cpc1-chms1-0-0-cust304.basl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wikisimpsons [20:59] <supergeeky1> Hehe. [20:59] <+AleWi> HI iamred [20:59] <+Doh5678> Someone needs to be a regular communist [20:59] <@Cook879> It's on the main page - can't say i ever visit the mainpage personally [21:00] <Phinbart> Good job on the puzzles, Doh...I was going to suggest that we put something together special for the next issue. [21:00] <Phinbart> Hi, Iamred. [21:00] <+Doh5678> *columnist
