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'''Wiki discussion''' is the place where major discussions and decisions can be made. Larger discussions will have their own pages but smaller discussions will go here.
 
'''Wiki discussion''' is the place where major discussions and decisions can be made. Larger discussions will have their own pages but smaller discussions will go here.
  
== Foreign broadcasters ==
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== Linking policy ==
  
We seem to have [[:Category:Broadcasters|a whole load]] of pages about foreign TV stations that broadcast the show. I don't believe we need all of these. The major English ones we should keep, in the scope of the wiki, but the foreign ones should go unless there's a special reason an article should stay. Thoughts? <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 12:22, May 21, 2016 (EDT)
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There are tons of ''episode''/Quotes pages (see [[:Category:Quotes]]) where linking differs from other pages:
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* character names in front of lines are '''all''' links instead of first occurence
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* no other links occur in the text
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Is this normal? --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 06:26, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
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:It should be first instance of a link gets linked, rather than every instance. If every instance has a link, they should be removed. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 07:41, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
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::Yes I think so. I checked again a few random pages and I see that there are much less overlinked one I thought first. It is [[User talk:AleWi|AleWi]] who has a different concept with links. I do not want to destroy his work unwisely. I left him a notice about this discussion. --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 09:52, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
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:If it helps ... When I work on Quotes pages, I generally link a character's name in its first occurrence in a block of dialogue. A good example is [[Lisa the Vegetarian/Quotes]]. This can result in every character name, or almost character every name, being linked if the quotes page consists largely of one-liners. For that reason, plus the fact that having too many links tends to make a Quotes page look cluttered (IMO), when I build a Quotes page I try to avoid one-liners and instead have at least three or four lines in each block of dialogue. This can result in the block division being a bit arbitrary, as I may end up having to split the blocks wherever it "feels" right instead of going by hard-and-fast rules. An example of a Quotes page where I had to take that approach is [[The Man of the House/Quotes]]. That's probably more than you wanted to know about the art of building Quotes pages, but I hope it's helpful. -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] ([[User talk:Mythigator|talk]]) 11:05, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
  
: There is no serious disadvantage of these pages. If some editors have energy to maintain them let they do.
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Okay. It seems I may uniform the quotes pages. Decade ago I had a bot editing the big Wikipedia. I think it will be useful again after same facelifting. Are there any special policies with bots here? I think I need a new account in first step. --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 05:22, October 22, 2018 (EDT)
: However if not – and I suspect this is the case – a simple list is enough. Practically content of [[Template:Broadcasters]] --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 01:57, May 29, 2016 (EDT)
 
  
: A list or a table is enough, I think [[User:T-Mac|T-Mac]] ([[User talk:T-Mac|talk]]) 15:49, August 1, 2016 (EDT)
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''[[User:Abbot|Abbot]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s first function is almost ready. I just have a question before it starts to work. There is no [[Wikisimpsons:Manual_of_Style|style guide]] for quotes so I don't know if the colon after name should be bold. ('''Krusty:''' … vs '''Krusty''': ). Do you have any preference? If not, I make bold colons. --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 02:47, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
 
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:Yep, colons should be bold. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 06:37, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
:The stubbier pages could probably be merged into a table. --[[User:Nick97|'''<font color=darkorange>Nick97</font>''']] <sup>([[User talk:Nick97|<font color=peach>'''talk'''</font>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Nick97|<font color=turquoise>'''contribs'''</font>]])</sup>  22:41, August 16, 2016 (EDT)
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::I guess constructions like [[The Secret War of Lisa Simpson/Quotes|this]] should be also changed:
 
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::: '''Instructor''' [to Bart]: Since you've already attended public school…
== Ask a question ==
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::to
 
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::: '''Instructor:''' ''[to Bart]'' Since you've already attended public school…
Does page https://answers.simpsonswiki.com/ask work? Weeks ago I posted a question but I don't see it at all. --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 10:56, June 19, 2016 (EDT)
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:: BTW. What about a new template called qf (quote from) that could do indentation, and typesetting in ine step? <code><nowiki>{{qf|Instructor}}</nowiki></code> --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 12:20, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
:Yes, it works. Due to a large amount of spam, questions need to be approved. I haven't done so in about a week (your question was posted a week ago). I have approved them now. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 11:55, June 19, 2016 (EDT)
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:::If you could figure out a way to make an easy to use template, that'll be great. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 12:58, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
:Just to add, once you've had at least one question approved (as you now have), the system will allow you to post new questions immediately without the need for staff approval. --[[User:Jake|<span style="color:#008000;font-weight:bold;">Ja</span>]][[User_talk:Jake|<span style="color:#E58900;font-weight:bold;">ke</span>]] 15:56, June 19, 2016 (EDT)
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:::: Here you are:<br>{{qf|Instructor}} ''[to Bart]'' Since you've already attended public school…<br>[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 06:09, November 3, 2018 (EDT)
::Fine, thanks. :-) --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 01:44, June 21, 2016 (EDT)
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:::::{{qf|[[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]]}} ''[enthusiastically]'' I like it! -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] ([[User talk:Mythigator|talk]]) 14:48, November 3, 2018 (EDT)
 
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Would you mind to have a sight on Abbot's [[Special:Contributions/Abbot|first few edits]]? It does most of the tasks with Quotes pages. (A lot of things must be done manually even.) --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 14:55, November 3, 2018 (EDT)
 
 
== Category membership ==
 
 
 
I think if an image is member of any subcategory of [[:Category:Images]] then it should not be duplicated in [[:Category:Images]] itself too. Especially I mean 30413 members of [[:Category:Images_by_license_(fair_use)]] also appear in endless list of 31367 simple "Images". --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 01:49, June 23, 2016 (EDT)
 
:I feel like it's best to have all images in once place so Category:Images should have them all in. Having images in subcategories alone will usually result in some being missed if any bot tasks need to be performed on them. This is the same reason we have all characters in one category, all locations, episodes etc. <span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 05:49, June 23, 2016 (EDT)
 
 
 
== SNPP ==
 
 
 
Tons of information can be found on [http://www.simpsonsarchive.com/ late SNPP]. My favourite is the ''"Didja notice …"'' section in the episode capsules. :-) I don't say we should copy everything from SNPP into this wiki but I suggest to place links pointing to this good old site serving for more than a decade. --[[User:2F13|2F13]] ([[User talk:2F13|talk]]) 02:39, July 10, 2016 (EDT)
 
:Whenever we use content from SNPP, we always leave a link to the source in the References section of that article. We also have a dedicated article on [[The Simpsons Archive]] itself. --[[User:Jake|<span style="color:#008000;font-weight:bold;">Ja</span>]][[User_talk:Jake|<span style="color:#E58900;font-weight:bold;">ke</span>]] 16:32, July 10, 2016 (EDT)
 

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Wiki discussion is the place where major discussions and decisions can be made. Larger discussions will have their own pages but smaller discussions will go here.

Linking policy

There are tons of episode/Quotes pages (see Category:Quotes) where linking differs from other pages:

  • character names in front of lines are all links instead of first occurence
  • no other links occur in the text

Is this normal? --2F13 (talk) 06:26, October 6, 2018 (EDT)

It should be first instance of a link gets linked, rather than every instance. If every instance has a link, they should be removed. The Solar Dragon 07:41, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
Yes I think so. I checked again a few random pages and I see that there are much less overlinked one I thought first. It is AleWi who has a different concept with links. I do not want to destroy his work unwisely. I left him a notice about this discussion. --2F13 (talk) 09:52, October 6, 2018 (EDT)
If it helps ... When I work on Quotes pages, I generally link a character's name in its first occurrence in a block of dialogue. A good example is Lisa the Vegetarian/Quotes. This can result in every character name, or almost character every name, being linked if the quotes page consists largely of one-liners. For that reason, plus the fact that having too many links tends to make a Quotes page look cluttered (IMO), when I build a Quotes page I try to avoid one-liners and instead have at least three or four lines in each block of dialogue. This can result in the block division being a bit arbitrary, as I may end up having to split the blocks wherever it "feels" right instead of going by hard-and-fast rules. An example of a Quotes page where I had to take that approach is The Man of the House/Quotes. That's probably more than you wanted to know about the art of building Quotes pages, but I hope it's helpful. -- Mythigator (talk) 11:05, October 6, 2018 (EDT)

Okay. It seems I may uniform the quotes pages. Decade ago I had a bot editing the big Wikipedia. I think it will be useful again after same facelifting. Are there any special policies with bots here? I think I need a new account in first step. --2F13 (talk) 05:22, October 22, 2018 (EDT)

Abbot's first function is almost ready. I just have a question before it starts to work. There is no style guide for quotes so I don't know if the colon after name should be bold. (Krusty: … vs Krusty: …). Do you have any preference? If not, I make bold colons. --2F13 (talk) 02:47, October 23, 2018 (EDT)

Yep, colons should be bold. The Solar Dragon 06:37, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
I guess constructions like this should be also changed:
Instructor [to Bart]: Since you've already attended public school…
to
Instructor: [to Bart] Since you've already attended public school…
BTW. What about a new template called qf (quote from) that could do indentation, and typesetting in ine step? {{qf|Instructor}} --2F13 (talk) 12:20, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
If you could figure out a way to make an easy to use template, that'll be great. The Solar Dragon 12:58, October 23, 2018 (EDT)
Here you are:
Instructor: [to Bart] Since you've already attended public school…
2F13 (talk) 06:09, November 3, 2018 (EDT)
Mythigator: [enthusiastically] I like it! -- Mythigator (talk) 14:48, November 3, 2018 (EDT)

Would you mind to have a sight on Abbot's first few edits? It does most of the tasks with Quotes pages. (A lot of things must be done manually even.) --2F13 (talk) 14:55, November 3, 2018 (EDT)