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Well my exams are (near enough) over now, so I'll have plenty of time to edit here, as I have really been neglecting it. Anything that needs major attention? Gran2 10:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I think we need an image copyright tag (even if it's just a copy of the Lostpedia or whatever), I remember that Lostpedia got in trouble for not having one on their images. Also, I've begun reworking the movie's page, using the Lostpedia episode structure. This is how I think all of the episode pages should be designed. Thoughts? Gran2 21:38, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Image Tag

What image tag would be for images from comics?? would it be fox? Kingcjc 19:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Main Page Transition

Hi Brian!

My name is Nathan and I'm a wikia helper with the entertainment team. We're going around helping wikis transition to the new style of main page that will be necessary to support the upcoming ads. I've created a draft of an idea for your main page in order to show the basic layout. Optimally, we'd like to get all main pages rolled over to the format as soon as possible, so feel free to use mine, or improve upon it. If you have any questions you can reach me via my talk page.

Thanks!

--Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talk • contribs • email) 15:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Sup

I'm from Hawkesbury, Ontario in Canada. Small world! User:K-dog the gangsta 19:30 8 July 2008 (UTC)

featured

why change featured back?, it needs an update Kingcjc 19:03, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Sup!!

I'm from Hawkesbury, Ontario in Canada. Small world! And K-dog the gangsta is my friend.

Young Piece 04:46, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism?

I don't know if it was a Day of the Innocents joke, but HeavyWeaponsGuy vandalized the Homer Simpson article. I reverted what he did.--Gonzalo84 16:52, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Update

Hey Brian McClure, I've been editing here lately and have noticed the small community here. To combat that, I thought it may help stimulate this wiki if I changed up a few things, and to do them I would need administrator privileges. I talked to the active admins here, and they seem on board, so I thought I shall go through with it. You may now not be active here, but you are the last active bureaucrat so I assumed you would be able to get this. You can check my my talk page for what the active admins had to say. Thanks. Joey - Talk ^Contribs 06:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Joey - Talk ^Contribs 15:22, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Promotion

Hi Brian! I've been working with Wikia's marketing manager on a cool promotional idea, and I'd love to talk to the other admins here to get some feedback. Can you drop me a line so we can talk about it? Thanks! —Scott (talk) 20:49, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Adminship

Hi, I am Dcasawang1. I want to request the adminship. The reasons I have are: - I want to help this wikia to improve it. - I want to fix it too. - I want to participate of the community and get better the wikia. - I have experience on wikis, especially in Avatar Wiki, where I have Rollback Rights. - Of course I know a lot of The Simpsons.

Thanks. Dcasawang1 - Talk 20:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Simpsons Timeline

Why did you delete my timeline? I know that it is contreversial on when the episodes are set due to the fact the characters don't age, but it is possible to cram all the episodes over 2 years.

Be warned!

Block this IP: 121.215.170.54 as it is a known vandal. It vandalizes ANYTHING. --TDM : Always here to help 16:54, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I've regged now

yeah, thanks for that msg. i should have added another quote to that page -- the quote being my favourite Simpsons line (Snake: "Yoink-dot-adios-backslash-loser"), but that's just me. -Wack0- 19:32, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Simpsons Fanon

I was wondering if you would advertise the w:c:Simpsons Fanon we are closly related and I want us to be more closely related. --Anniemoose98, Wanna say Hi? 22:54, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Adminship nomination

Just so you know, as your burecrat, their is someone nominated for admin. Kingcjc 16:44, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

BUMP!. Admin and Bureaucrat request for you to look at.--Sgtcook (My Talk Page) 21:31, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Hey

Hi. A few things have changed since you were last on. Sgtcook has became a bureaucrat, I am now an admin. We are also trying to get a Spotlight so we need lower protection on pages unless there is a strong history of vandalism on that page. See here for more details. Thanks, ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 06:22, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Ok then. After checking the history I see your point. I have also noticed that someone had reverted an edit since the protection was lowered. I will tell them that when we go for the spotlight. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 16:07, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Bot

No. We don't have a bot here. I may look into making one after my exams are finished though as one may come in useful though but I am not too sure on how to make one. The Solar Dragon 05:05, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Anyway, are you becoming active now or is this just a one off? The Solar Dragon 05:06, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

I am currently trying to make a bot. It is coming across errors though. The Solar Dragon 14:16, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Got my bot working and will be doing other tasks with it that you asked for. The Solar Dragon 14:49, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Brian Pollack & Mert Rich

They are two different people so should have an article each, no matter how similar they are. The Solar Dragon 17:35, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

The disambigs are fine. They lead to the two different things, such as Who Shot Mr. Burns?. There are two different episode. Please leave them alone. The Solar Dragon 17:38, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

sorry to have to block you but it is the only way I could get you to stop. I have asked the community to discuss you as well in a forum thread. The Solar Dragon 17:52, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

So how about unblocking me so I can at least defend myself? I promise I'll stop trying to improve the site. -- Brian McClure 18:02, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

So I try to help this site and instead I get blocked. Lovely. I'm sorry for upsetting people, but all I'm trying to do is help this place. When I first started here two years ago, it was a completely awful website, and I put in a lot of hard work to try to improve it, but it was simply too much for one person. I came back every now and then, and it slowly improved. However, this site has a LONG way to go before it could be considered a good wiki along the lines of Lostpedia or Memory Alpha. Users here seem FAR more concerned with quantity rather than quality. A lot of the articles are poorly written, but are users concerned with that? Nope, all they want to do is beef the site's page count. I've noticed that there are quite a few pointless disambiguations here (pages that haven't been touched in years), the only purpose of which is to bolster the site's page count. So I try to do something about it, and Solar Dragon, rather than engaging in a discussion with me (which is what he's encouraged to do) decides to block me, because I had the audacity to challenge his authority. And, rather than improve pages, he would rather engage in this silly activity. I admit, I have a bit of an abrupt way of doing things, but all I've tried to do is help this site, and for me to be blocked because of it would be ludicrous. Of course, why should I bother with a place that doesn't appreciate my help? -- Brian McClure 17:58, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I tried to talk to you about it. You just ignored me and went about it anyway. You have upset users since your return as I had an email from one of them and I don't know if you got the email I sent to you as you never replied. So, you can either leave or wait until the community decides. The Solar Dragon 18:02, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Well, you did engage in an edit war with me. Like my user page says, I never check my e-mail, so you need to notify me first. -- Brian McClure 18:04, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

You are an admin. Feel free to unblock yourself. I won't mind, as long as you don't edit any more. I tried to tell you about it but you carried on anyway. The Solar Dragon 18:06, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I tried to do what I thought was best for the site, what a monster I am. -- Brian McClure 18:08, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

It's not my fault you decided to ignore me though. I left a message on my talk page as I usually respond on my talk page and it is not my fault you ignored it and carried on is it. I will ask Smiley to decide on what's best as he is independent and is impartial. What he decides will go. The Solar Dragon 18:11, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

"Oh we have to let the community decide"

So after all this nonsense about community consensus and such, Solar the Dictator took it upon himself to remove my bureaucratic powers anyway.

I have no problem with the editors here, or even Solar Dragon the editor. My problem is with the way he's doing this. Rather than let users make up their own mind, he's threatening to leave, thus meaning a user is either with him or against him. And, since he's been here longer than I, it's going to work, and he knows it. That's what's pathetic. Rather than just editing, he's putting the site through this nonsense.

Quite frankly, I think he should resign after going through this. He made a mountain out of a molehill and showed his true colours. He's a petty authority-whore who couldn't stand having another crat here who had a mind of their own. You should resign as crat, and appoint someone who actually has a clue, like Smiley.

I've put a lot of work into this site and done a lot to promote it, and it's sad that it ends this way. But, this ordeal has been funny. Very very funny.

Thanks for the laugh, Brian McClure 18:50, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't remove you crat powers. Just your admin powers. You can reinstate them if you so wish but i think it will be better if we can not delete things or block people. The Solar Dragon 18:52, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, you blocked me, then removed my priviledges, so I'm powerless. Please delete my user page, I'm out of here. Hopefully, now that you've shown your true colours, the community will see you for the power hungry child you are.

I'll end my wikisimpsons career with a Simpsons quote (yes, despite this recent nonsense, this is still a Simpsons site): "I'm Troy McClure, and I now leave you with what we all came to see - hardcore nudity!" -- Brian McClure 18:59, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry

I doubt you will read this but I am sorry. It was a heat of the moment thing and I regret what I have said. When I get mad, I do things I regret. Sorry for my mistakes, The Solar Dragon 19:41, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Don't quit due to idiocy Kingcjc 19:50, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Well, that was certainly an interesting few hours. Solar was big enough to admit his mistake, so I will follow suit. I wish apologize to him for my comments (though I hope he can appreciate my point of view). I will also extend an apology to the site as a whole. As I've said before, it's far from perfect, but it's nice to see that there is a group of editors dedicated to it, and I sincerely hope that my actions have not driven any of them away.

However, I will still be going on a break. I am quite busy these days, which is why I've had the long absenses, but I decided to contribute here because I felt the site was on the right track, but could use some guidance. But I guess others weren't really looking for guidance, and that was the problem. Still, after this unpleasantness (which has really made me wonder why I should bother), I think I, and the other users, need a break from eachother.

I would like to impart some advice though.

Yes, this is a Simpsons-focused wikia, but there are a lot of pages that are kind of useless. Does each member of the Simpson family mentioned in the Uncensored Family Album need their own page? Couldn't they all be merged into one efficient page?

I also hope that users will start to focus more on content rather than page number and edit count. Sure, having a lot of pages means a lot of depth, but having interesting, well-written pages is what gets readers to stick around.

This is the proper way for me to leave, so good luck and until next time, Brian McClure 20:27, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

well, we should have an article on everything related to The Simpsons, including all characters so the Uncensored Family members should stay. I have also remade your user page with the standard layout thing to remove the red link, hope you don't mind. The Solar Dragon 20:33, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and when you return, I will give you a little advice, come in slowly before you make the big changes, try to talk to the community before implementing them and get the community to know you more before you start to take part in admin discussions and the like. That may stop this from happening again. The Solar Dragon 20:34, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

"Solar was big enough to admit his mistake, so I will follow suit." Making some public apologies to people whom you disrespected would be a decent continuation. -- Mythigator 01:29, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Had you bothered to read my entire statement, you would have seen this: "I will also extend an apology to the site as a whole." Either way, I stand by my opinion that anyone who can't recognize vandalism shouldn't be allowed to become an admin (whose main job is cleaning up vandalism). -- Brian McClure 02:51, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Matter of fact, I did read your entire statement, and my assessment is "not good enough." You dissed people specifically; therefore, specific apologies are called for. As far as vandalism goes, the more you go on about that, the more you present yourself as judging without full knowledge of the facts -- which doesn't sound like a terribly good admin quality, either. Maybe you SHOULD have your powers stripped!! -- Mythigator 04:56, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

sigh, just stop dragging this thin Kingcjc 06:22, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Welllll .... I've long since owned up to the one bad edit I made (which he insists on jumping on and blowing out all of proportion). If he'll make a similar concession to having conducted himself like a jerk as I did to screwing up, I'd be inclined to call that good. -- Mythigator 07:50, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

OK Brian. Please stop going on about this one little mistake. Every user makes mistakes, you have as well. I have, Effuvlium has, Dohayecarumbadoh has. Basically every user on this wiki has made a mistake. That's human nature. People make mistakes. So stop going on about it. The Solar Dragon 07:56, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

This whole thing is a mistake that should end now Kingcjc 15:18, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

I've put some thought into this, and I've come to the decision that I don't want to leave. Why should I let some immature users, who care more about personal vendettas than the good of the site, chase me away? Besides, I won't be around a lot longer anyway, so I might as well help while I can and want to. I'll be professional, and I hope others will follow suit. However, I'll be stawing away from the bureaucratic nonsense this time and sticking to what I do best: editing. Now, let's let this thing go and return to improving the site. -- Brian McClure 18:01, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

woot Kingcjc 18:35, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

That works for me. From what I see of your writing, you're a damn terrific editor and the wiki would be worse off without your skills. Shall we consider the hatchet buried? -- Mythigator 00:06, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Trappuccino

Hi, the whole incident was called Trappuccino. There is no in-universe reference to it being called The Dome Incident therefore Trappuccino is the name it should be called. The Solar Dragon 09:37, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Achievements

Hi, on Preferences under the tab misc. There is an option at the bottom that says: Hide my achievements on my user page when I visit it and don't notify me of earned badges. Tick this to stop the messages. Solar Dragon 13:46, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Song deletions

I was just trying to add articles about songs found in various Simpsons productions, including The Simpsons Game, and they just got deleted. Is this Wikia actually looking for help to do articles for songs? (VicGeorge2K9 00:10, August 1, 2010 (UTC))

Sure, we're definitely looking for help with copyediting, maintaining articles, improving articles, etc. However, adding articles for extremely minor parts of episodes doesn't help us that much. -- Brian McClure 00:28, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Mark Hamill Character Article

Not a disambiguation, but a unique article about Mark Hamill the character, as opposed to Mark Hamill the real-life voice actor. -- Mythigator 02:57, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Question: What's the significance with having a real-life person's "character" article titled with "character" (lower-case c) vs. "Character" (upper-case C)? If it's a big deal, please let me know and I'll fix the other articles with the issue AND not repeat the same thing in the future. Thanks. -- Mythigator 13:38, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

I don't really see this as a major issue at all. It is too minor to really be mentioned and I don't really care, neither do anyone else. I don't see how it is "counterproductive". Could you just stop blowing things out of proportion? Thanks, ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 13:41, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

That's not true, Mythigator obviously cares, since he decided to recreate the page at a redirect, which IS counterproductive. We need to start encouraging users to do things correctly, otherwise you end up with a big mess. You may consider it "blowing things out of proportion", but I'm simply attempting to help users improve their editing. Perhaps you should try to do the same. -- Brian McClure 13:48, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Please refer to my talk page, gents. I honestly don't care which case it's supposed to be, but I do care about getting it right. The only issue is that Brian and I don't have the same understanding of what a disambiguation is. Since he's been around here longer, I'll defer to his opinion and make sure that any "(character)" articles I make get the appropriate title case. No problem! :-) -- Mythigator 13:54, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Warnings

If you suspect a user of vandalism or adding false information, please use the {{subst:Vandalism}} template as a warning instead of going straight for a block unless they have done a lot of different things wrong. This limits the chance of false blocks and the user can explain themselves too.

Also, I am sorry to say that a person who has not signed up yet has told me that he was slightly reluctant to as you intimidated him. I have persuaded him to join up but if this happens to one user, chances are it could happen to others too. So, could you maybe tone things down a bit please? Thanks, ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 20:09, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

I admit, I was a bit hasty in blocking the user, but I have no patience for vandals and creating three fake episode pages should be enough to warrant a block.

And I love how you keep getting these anonymous complaints against me. Why don't you stop trying to create drama and just improve the site? -- Brian McClure 20:25, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Well, all these complaints show that people distrust you actually and are intimidated by you. This is not good for an administrator. This one was over the IRC channel. I can give you the transcript for it if you want, in fact here it is:

[20:52]	<Bitey>	I was thinking about joining the site
[20:52]	<Bitey>	But one of the admins scares me
[20:53]	<Solar_Dragon>	Which one?
[20:53]	<Bitey>	His name is Brian McClure
[20:53]	<Solar_Dragon>	Hmm. I don't like him much either
[20:53]	<Solar_Dragon>	However, I try to get along with him for the sake of the wiki
[20:54]	<Bitey>	He likes to intimidate people
[20:54]	<Bitey>	Is that why you don't like him?
[20:54]	<Solar_Dragon>	We do things differently
[20:55]	<Solar_Dragon>	We had quite a big argument before which resulted in me blocking him for a while, although he overthrew the block
[20:56]	<Bitey>	He sounds like a dictator
[20:56]	<Solar_Dragon>	Don't worry about him though. If he steps out of line, I will talk to him
[20:56]	<Bitey>	I want to jo0in, but I don't want to have to deal with users like that
[20:56]	<Solar_Dragon>	He is only semi-active though
[20:57]	<Solar_Dragon>	He comes and goes, he's not on every day
[20:58]	<Solar_Dragon>	Well, feel free to join. If he does anything you feel is out of line, tell me
[20:59]	<Solar_Dragon>	Not many users like him and I have had complaints about him before
[21:00]	<Bitey>	Okat I think I will join

☆The Solar Dragon☆ 20:27, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

If "Not many users like" me, that means I'm doing my job. As admins, we need to be leaders and do what we can to improve the site. This means articles need to be deleted, users need to be blocked, and warnings need to be issued so we can keep things on the right path. It's not easy to do, and things are made harder if you're going to lecture me everytime I try to do my job, and if you're going to play these games. In the future, if anyone has a complaint about me, tell them to bring it to me directly. Feedback is much better coming directly, not from a second hand source. -- Brian McClure 20:45, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Admins are NOT leaders. We are the same as any other user, just with a few extra tools. If users are scared and intimidated by us then we are failing them. It is not doing our job to scare users so much, they do not want to join. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 20:48, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and the reson users don't come to you directly is because they are probably afraid that you would block them or something. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 20:48, August 1, 2010 (UTC)