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User talk:Solar Dragon/Archive 27

2014-01-19T08:45:43Z

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== So, these tab templates... ==

If I was going to change the template, there'd need to be a bot edit ASAP. Any ideas? {{User:Randomno/sig4}} 07:09, November 30, 2013 (EST)
:How much are you changing and what exactly are you changing? ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 07:46, November 30, 2013 (EST)
::''TabR, TabA, TabC, TabG, TabQ'' -> ''Tab''. ''gags = yes'' -> ''gags''. ''quotes = no'' -> ''noquotes''. {{User:Randomno/sig4}} 08:44, November 30, 2013 (EST)

== Wikisimpsons christmas logo ==

Hi Solar! I put the [[:File:Wiki.png|Wikisimpsons christmas logo]], but the page still continues with the normal logo. So please, fix the problem. --[[User:Barthony70099|BTony70099]] ([[User talk:Barthony70099|talk]]) 15:37, December 1, 2013 (EST)
:The main logo is from a different source and Jake has to change it himself, along with the skin. Jake's been fairly busy with college recently so he hasn't had time to get the Christmas skin up but he should do in the next few days. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 17:22, December 1, 2013 (EST)

== Question... ==

Excuse, me I have just started an official account. How can I get clearance to edit a semi-protected article? Do I have to wait a few days, I've already done 10 edits.--[[User:Spare-tire|Spare-tire]] ([[User talk:Spare-tire|talk]]) 21:55, December 1, 2013 (EST)
:You have to wait a set number of days after making a certain number of edits. Both are undisclosed to try and stop users making random crappy edits that do nothing just to get the ability to edit semi-protected articles. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|Talk]] '''•''' [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]]) 05:02, December 3, 2013 (EST)
:How many days? --[[User:Spare-tire|Spare-tire]] ([[User talk:Spare-tire|talk]]) 16:19, December 3, 2013 (EST)
::Did you actually read the comment I wrote? I said it's undisclosed to stop users making random crappy edits. [[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]] 16:31, December 3, 2013 (EST)
::That's the point, I don't intend to do that. I should be allowed access to all pages having an authorized account. --[[User:Spare-tire|Spare-tire]] ([[User talk:Spare-tire|talk]]) 16:48, December 3, 2013 (EST)
:::Well, when I say "undisclosed", truth is, it's so undisclosed that I don't even know what it is. :P I think it's either 5, 7 or 10 days though. Not sure which one, if any, is correct. [[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]] 16:50, December 3, 2013 (EST)

== Spam users ==

You know the users that keep registering and put really strange/in-depth personal information on their user pages? I have reasons to believe they are spammers. Surely no-one would reveal such personal info on a wiki, one user page I came across posted an in-depth address. What do you think? ~ [[User:Phinbart|'''Phinbart''']] ([[User talk:Phinbart|'''talk''']] • [[Special:Contributions/Phinbart|'''contribs''']]) ''' 11:48, December 7, 2013 (EST)
:They're spammers, all right. We've been blocking them and deleting the pages if they post anything with an off-the-wall link in it. If you come across one posting PII such as a street address, go ahead and slap a Speedy Delete tag on it and it'll get the same treatment. -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] ([[User talk:Mythigator|talk]]) 12:08, December 7, 2013 (EST)
::Yep. Spammers. Unfortunately, there's no way to permanently stop these unless they release their regex accidentally. <big><big>[[User:Solar Dragon|The Solar Dragon]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</big></big> 14:10, December 7, 2013 (EST)
:I just had a thought related to our spammer asshole. It looks the user count under the wiki stats includes EVERYTHING. Is there any of fine-tuning that count so that we don't have the spam-hole inflating the numbers? If that count could be tweaked to exclude blocked accounts and those that have never made a contribution, that should eliminate all of the spam accounts, and hopefully give the spam-hole one less incentive for continuing with his crap. -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] ([[User talk:Mythigator|talk]]) 14:50, December 15, 2013 (EST)
::Tried to limit it to autoconfirmed but the code doesn't work for some reason so I emailed Jake. Hopefully get this set up by tomorrow. <nowiki>{{NUMBERINGROUP:autoconfirmed}}</nowiki> should do it but isn't for some reason, only returning {{NUMBERINGROUP:autoconfirmed}}. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|Talk]] '''•''' [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]]) 15:03, December 15, 2013 (EST)
:Good thing I make a practice of looking closely at the entries on the Recent Changes page. For a second I thought that [[Petrovichnyamilelenkossarian]] was the work of our spammer. :-D -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] ([[User talk:Mythigator|talk]]) 19:27, December 17, 2013 (EST)
::Well, the name in yellow next to it should have given you a hint. :P Oh, Jake said that what I was trying to do is not possible and he can't think of a way to do it. [[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]] 03:55, December 18, 2013 (EST)
::It's possible that at some point we can do a user cleanup to remove the spammers, but I'll need to write up a script to weed out the spammers from legitimate users and then remove all of their information from the database. At this point, I'd say it's not very high priority and I'd rather focus on other site improvements first. --[[User:Jake|Ja]][[User_talk:Jake|ke]] 12:12, December 18, 2013 (EST)

== Old Money ==

Again, hello, how are you? Watch that episode and Grampa is at [[Nighthawk Diner]]. [[Special:Contributions/24.141.5.202|24.141.5.202]] 12:39, December 8, 2013 (EST)
:Nope. Grampa was at a parody of the painting ''{{W|Nighthawks}}''. It's a different parody of the same painting. <big><big>[[User:Solar Dragon|The Solar Dragon]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</big></big> 12:41, December 8, 2013 (EST)
::What does "a parody" mean? Are you saying Rex Banner is at different diner that also a reference to ''Nighthawks'' or because Grampa is just a short visual gag as opposed to the entire scene with Rex, Eddie, Lou and then Barney makes it different? Again, how is it a different diner in "[[Old Money]]" then having the exact same diner be shown again in "[[Homer vs. the Eighteenth Amendment]]"? In ''The Simpsons'' universe there's a diner that we've at least twice which is a reference to Nighthawks painting, that those references are for the "Behind the Laughter" section, but the article is suppose to written a real place to ''The Simpsons'' and Grampa and Rex Banner are at the same place and Springfield has two diners that look the same even down the building across the street? [[Special:Contributions/24.141.5.202|24.141.5.202]] 12:47, December 8, 2013 (EST)
:::1) Please do not change talk page comments after posting them. It makes conversations confusing. 2) After finally loading up the episode and finding the scene, which took a lot longer than it should have, I played "spot the difference" with the two. The main difference is that there are seats by the windows in the later episode and not "Old Money". However, I have added it to the article. [[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]] 13:13, December 8, 2013 (EST)
::::Well, the Simpsons house changes all the time (mostly for the need of a gag which is also what happened since Rex Banner has to be at the window to sham it and grab Barney), but it doesn't make it a different house. To be fair, you didn't add it, I did. You toke it away comrade ;) I get you had to take the time to look at the episode, but couldn't you have just done that first before removing it and arguing against it. Anyhow, thanks for double checking. [[Special:Contributions/24.141.5.202|24.141.5.202]] 13:29, December 8, 2013 (EST)
:::::Yeah, as I've said before, and other users have too, IPs are generally treated worse than logged in users. They usually have their edits rollbacked first, questions asked later. I would again suggest that you make an account to allow other users, and me, to take you more seriously. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The Solar Dragon]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])☆ 13:36, December 8, 2013 (EST)

== Spam accounts ==

I have reasons to believe all the red-link accounts registered this past half-day are spam accounts: one, they probably would have made edits by now. Two, I recognize some of the names (well, one, to be honest) I believe something needs to be put in place (a few Simpsons questions, for example), when someone registers an account. ~ [[User:Phinbart|'''Phinbart''']] ([[User talk:Phinbart|'''talk''']] • [[Special:Contributions/Phinbart|'''contribs''']]) ''' 08:12, December 28, 2013 (EST)
:I would also like to add the fact that most of them have spam account-like names. ~ [[User:Phinbart|'''Phinbart''']] ([[User talk:Phinbart|'''talk''']] • [[Special:Contributions/Phinbart|'''contribs''']]) ''' 08:19, December 28, 2013 (EST)
::Not sure how it could affect this, but maybe putting in a recaptcha also, if we don't. -- [[User:WebkinzMania|'''Webkinz Mania''']][[User talk:WebkinzMania|'''Talk''']][[Special:Contributions/WebkinzMania|'''Contributions''']][[Special:Editcount/WebkinzMania|'''Editcount''']] 10:18, December 28, 2013 (ESTy
:::We already have a very advanced captcha system in place which is required for all non-autoconfirmed users to do before saving edits. We don't know what else to try at the moment. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The Solar Dragon]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])☆ 11:02, December 28, 2013 (EST)
::::I know this sounds VERY cruel, but what about automatically blocking/deleting accounts that had not made an edit in the past 12-24 hours since its registration. Some spam accounts don't edit for a few days after their registration, some maybe a few minutes after. This could wipe out and prevent a lot of spam. If these spammers continue to do their business here, I believe we'll have to have an official wiki discussion. ~ [[User:Phinbart|'''Phinbart''']] ([[User talk:Phinbart|'''talk''']] • [[Special:Contributions/Phinbart|'''contribs''']]) ''' 11:12, December 28, 2013 (EST)

== Spam protection ==

Why is web.archive.org in the spam protection filter? I'm trying to put an address with that in my revised ''The Simpsons Archive'' page. ~ [[User:Phinbart|'''Phinbart''']] ([[User talk:Phinbart|'''talk''']] • [[Special:Contributions/Phinbart|'''contribs''']]) ''' 13:43, December 28, 2013 (EST)
:It was being used to spam on pages hence the adding to the spam blacklist. I'm about to remove it for you. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|Talk]] '''•''' [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]]) 04:03, December 30, 2013 (EST)

== Spam IPs ==

Hi Solar, I've just noticed that this IP has been doing vandalism: [[Special:Contributions/156.34.199.194|156.34.199.194]] !!

Please could you block it or something????,
thank you!!!!!!!!! / [[User:Loco87|'''Loco87''']] ([[User talk:Loco87|'''Talk''']] / [[Special:Contributions/Loco87|Contribs]]) 19:30 December 29, 2013 (EST)
:I put a warning on the IP's talk page. Next offense will result in a block. -- [[User:Mythigator|Mythigator]] ([[User talk:Mythigator|talk]]) 20:24, December 29, 2013 (EST)
::Thank You Mythigator!! / [[User:Loco87|'''Loco87''']] ([[User talk:Loco87|'''Talk''']] / [[Special:Contributions/Loco87|Contribs]]) 20:31 December 29, 2013 (EST)

== Forum thread ==

Hi Solar, just wondering if you could post the link to [[Forum:UK episode list table design|this forum thread]] in the site notice. I'm trying to decide which table design looks best and it'd really help if the community chose one. Thanks, ~ [[User:Phinbart|'''Phinbart''']] ([[User talk:Phinbart|'''talk''']] • [[Special:Contributions/Phinbart|'''contribs''']]) ''' 08:29, January 5, 2014 (EST)

==Re:A couple of things==
I doubt that I'll be around for long. I'm just starting a page that has been on my mind for a while. As for tables, I won't lie, I'm not going to use that template. The version I'm using now is slightly more complex, and templates usually don't work out with that kind of thing. Isn't it possible to simply re-jig the default settings for wikitables, then you can do away with the templates? -- [[User:Brian McClure|Brian McClure]] ([[User talk:Brian McClure|talk]]) 14:44, January 8, 2014 (EST)

== About the play buttons ==

Hi Solar! I really don't like the play buttons. So, i ask the user, [[User:Loco87|Loco87]], that re-upload the new versions of the images, without that buttons. Loco87, should re-upload the files that you deleted, with good quality and without play buttons. --[[User:Barthony70099|BTony70099]] ([[User talk:Barthony70099|talk]]) 21:03, January 11, 2014 (EST)

== Dealing with spam ==

How do you deal with spam accounts? The Infosphere has had a lot lately, and they are getting rather aggressive. So I'm wonder what you are doing to prevent them? --[[User:Svip|Svip]] ([[User talk:Svip|talk]]) 13:16, January 16, 2014 (EST)
:We've installed [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit ConfirmEdit], [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist SpamBlacklist] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount ConfirmAccount]. If you need me to explain any more, will do later. Dinner right now. <big><big>[[User:Solar Dragon|The Solar Dragon]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</big></big> 13:23, January 16, 2014 (EST)
:: How have you configured ConfirmAccount? --[[User:Svip|Svip]] ([[User talk:Svip|talk]]) 03:45, January 19, 2014 (EST)

== User pages ==

May I ask why are you creating user pages for 'new users'? ~ [[User:Phinbart|'''Phinbart''']] ([[User talk:Phinbart|'''talk''']] • [[Special:Contributions/Phinbart|'''contribs''']]) ''' 16:19, January 18, 2014 (EST)
:It's an automatic process when I approve a new account. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The Solar Dragon]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])☆ 16:49, January 18, 2014 (EST)

User talk:Solar Dragon/Archive 27

2014-01-16T18:16:10Z

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